Automobili na elektricni pogon

[mustang]

Aha.

 

Da da leti hladi a gas mi je bio $200-250 meeecno od oktobra pa sve do maja ....

 

Mnogo je u svakom slucaju. Bas bas.

 

A ovde gas $10 

Struja i voda $60

 

 

 

Edited December 24, 2021 by mustang

[paculla]

12 hours ago, mustang said:

Aha.

 

Da da leti hladi a gas mi je bio $200-250 meeecno od oktobra pa sve do maja ....

 

Mnogo je u svakom slucaju. Bas bas.

 

A ovde gas $10 

Struja i voda $60

 

 

 

Meni punjenje Tesle nije diglo cenu struje ili bolje receno, nisam primetila jer mi je mesecni varijabilitet drugih faktora veci nego punjenje kola ($80-100 Boston). Ne vozim puno… 

[mustang]

4 hours ago, paculla said:

Meni punjenje Tesle nije diglo cenu struje ili bolje receno, nisam primetila jer mi je mesecni varijabilitet drugih faktora veci nego punjenje kola ($80-100 Boston). Ne vozim puno… 

 

Kopas coins? 

 

 

[zorglub]

On 23.12.2021. at 16:29, pasha said:

 

Jebote al je gadan.

[pasha]

On 24.12.2021. at 1:56, Peter Fan said:

To je konkurencija za Model S, mada su po performansama inferiorni Tesli. Tesla jos uvijek nema pojedinacnog konkurenta preko cijelog spektra. 

 

Po kojim parapmetrima su inferiorni?

Koliko vidim EQS moze vise da predje od modela S? Da li je model brzi, bolje ubrzava, vise snage?

Pitam, nemoj to nesto lose shvatiti.

 

Sto se tice lepote, meni eksterijer nije los, stavise, ali svaki moderni auto, ne mora biti na struju, mi unutra izgleda lose jer su ubacili samo ekrane. To sve pod uticajem Maska, koji nije bas poznat po estetici...nadam se da ce Nemci prekinuti sa time. Uostalom oni ubedljivo najvise ulazu u razvoj novih elektricnih vozila.

 

 

https://graphics.reuters.com/AUTOS-INVESTMENT-ELECTRIC/010081ZB3HD/index.html

 

Ovaj graf je pre 2 godine, mozda se nesto promenilo.

[pasha]

Svaba kaze die beste, die beste, najbolji u svijet...

 

 

Edited December 25, 2021 by pasha

[Peter Fan]

6 hours ago, pasha said:

 

Po kojim parapmetrima su inferiorni?

Koliko vidim EQS moze vise da predje od modela S? Da li je model brzi, bolje ubrzava, vise snage?

 

Ubrzanje, snaga, a i mreza punjaca.

 

Inace iz, WSJ poredjenja Taycan Tourismo i Tesle:

 

Consider our test car, with a name worthy of the AKC Registry: the 2022 Porsche Taycan Turbo S Cross Turismo (hereinafter TTSCT, if it pleases the court). This gorgeously malevolent, deeply desirable electric multitasker is aimed at a select few. Of this particular pedigree—the Taycan (electric supersports four-door, introduced in 2019), Turbo S (dual-motor AWD, 750 hp max), Cross (with “Gravel” mode!) Turismo (hatchback)—Porsche will import fewer than 1,000 copies to North America. While the base price is $187,600, our fully laden spaceship rang up $208,650 at the register. Now that’s what I call a carbon offset.

The fun part is guessing who this handful of buyers might be and divining their motives. Perhaps money laundering? The depreciation on high-end Porsches has the power to send personal wealth to an untraceable phantom zone. And the residual value of this car—a touring/estate body on an EV with 202 miles of EPA-estimated range—seems destined to plunge through the coming decade like a fiery meteor.

This car has one power Tesla lacks: the power to make people look twice.

So, really, we are imagining two groups of buyers: Those who take delivery of this marvelous, albeit limited car at full retail (check their names with Interpol); and those who, in 24 or 36 months, might pick one of these babies up off-lease for, what, maybe $100,000? Now that would be genius. 

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Even iconoclastic—the icon being Tesla. With only four models on sale (S, Y, 3, X), Elon Musk’s electric car company now dominates the premium-luxury vehicle market in the U.S., outselling BMW, Mercedes-Benz, Audi and Porsche in Q3 2021. And rightly so: Teslas make anything with a tailpipe feel like an antique.

In the bench-racing matchup between the Porsche’s best electric and the Tesla Model S Long Range, it’s a rout. The TTSCT offers half the EPA-estimated range (202 vs. 405 miles) and it costs more than twice as much. Oof. The Porsche is also 638 pounds heavier.

TRUNK SHOW The Tursimo body style retains the Porsche Taycan sedan’s front luggage compartment, with 2.9 cubic feet for stowage. The case that holds the portable charging cables takes up most of this space.

PHOTO: PORSCHE

While the Porsche is capable of DC fast-charging up to 270 kW and 800V, it lacks access to a fast-charging network comparable to Tesla’s Supercharger stations. At a 50 kW charger, it takes 93 minutes to charge from 0-80% under ideal conditions, or 31 minutes for an additional 62 miles of range.

[pasha]

Po specifikaciji EQS u osnovnoj varijnati ima 100km veci radijus kretanja. Tesla ima vise snage.

 

Sto se tice BMW i4 M50, njega treba porediti sa Tesla model 3, jer je to auto skoro duplo jevtiniji od modela S a u rangu modela 3.

BMW ima veci radijus kretanja i vecu snagu od modela 3. U najevtinijoj varijatni je Tesla trenutno povoljnija a u visim performansama su skoro iste cene. Ono sto je prednost modela 3 je brze punjenje baterije do 100%.

 

Audi e-tron GT je ukupno slabiji od modela S.

 

Od svih Nemaca mislim da je BMW najbolji kada se poredi sa Teslom, stavise, mozda su sada vec bolji. Tesla je za sada neupitni lider ev ali ce Nemci od naredne godine poceti zatrpavati trziste....

 

 

[mustang]

Bmw ne moze ni posten cup holder da napravi a ne ozbiljan ev

[pasha]

To je zato sto se BMW pre mnogo decenija posvetio zastiti zivotnog prostora u formi manjih vozila koji dosta povuku a dokazani kvalitet-pustinja, stepa, brdo...

 

Spoiler

 

[pasha]

BMW to add Saturday shift at Munich plant to meet strong i4 demand?

https://www.bmwblog.com/2021/12/25/bmw-munich-saturday-shift-meet-strong-i4-demand/

[Lancia]

 

[Peter Fan]

^

lijep, ali mi lici kao da je plasticni model, a ne stvaran auto.

Edited December 27, 2021 by Peter Fan

[Lancia]

13 minutes ago, Peter Fan said:

^

lijep, ali mi lici kao da je plasticni model, a ne stvaran auto.

 da, i ja ima takav utisak, jos od sedan modela:

 

[pasha]

Dok se mrcina bmw zalaufa....ali kada povuce...