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Golivkin vs Jacobs zasad otkazan. Pregovori se navodno nastavljaju u pokusaju da se nadje dogovor za pocetak 2017. Najnoviji razlog je Jacobsov tim koji sad trazi duzi period trening kampa. Kazu da Jacobsu treba bar 10-12 nedelja.  :naughty:

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Ne razumem sta znaci mmw?

 

@Zavrzan Kako ja gledam, po mecevima iz poslednje 2-3 godine, dajem prednost Kovalevu. Mislim da Ward jedino moze da pobedi ako bude mogao da prilazi konstantno Kovalevu na kratku distancu i da ga frustrira klincevima, ali je Kovalev dosad takve pokusaje besprekorno neutralisao hitrim korakom unazad i kontrolom distance protiv Hopkinsa i Pascala, koji su konstantno pokusavali da iniiciraju klinc protiv njega ali nikad nisu mogli. Ward je bolji od njih pa mozda i ne bude toliko uspesan u tome protiv njega. Dok na srednjoj i dalekoj distanci favorizujem Kovaleva. Trip je sto i Pascal i Chilemba i Hopkins imaju granitne brade pa ih je nokautirao i nokdaunovao, tako da mislim da ce i Ward kad bude osetio njegov udarac da upadne u survival mode i da se time odrekne pobede na bodovima, samo da bi izbegao nokaut. Jedino ako me Ward nije prevario svojim neimpresivnim pobedama u mecevima protiv C-level rivala i da je protiv njih mozda boksovao tek dovoljno da pobedi, bez forsiranja, pa da sam sebi stvorio laznu sliku gde vidim Kovaleva da dobija mec Unanimous Decisionom ili nokautom. Evo ga jedan moj detaljniji komentar na tu temu od pre mesec-dva:

 

 

 

I favor Kovalev to KO him or win the UD. If Ward wins I would be very suprised, however if it's a clear fight and he wins it, I would give him all the credit. Also if he wins it would mean to me that he just fights up to his opponents level, kinda like Floyd.

 

I see it 55/45 or 60/40 in Kovalev's favor, I could see him winning by KO as well as by UD. People turned their back on Kovalev after Chilemba fight, but than Ward vs Brand happened. Now Ward clearly outboxed Brand, but in the last 1/3 of the fight he tried everything he could to knock him out and he couldn't. He was so desperate and frustrated. Go watch in between round 11 and 12, Hunter is urging him to pressure Brand and knock him out and Ward got angry at Hunter, I couldn't believe what I was seeing. The reason I mention Ward failing to KO Brand is because it really made me ask myself how is he supposed to keep Kovalev off him than if he can't make him respect his punches. The only way I see him frustrating Kovalev is with his movement and clinching. Chilemba is a real top 6 or top 7 fighter at 175 and he still lost 3 to 9 against unprepared Kovalev, nearly got knocked out, while Brand is a an unranked top 60 type of fighter.

 

Things that could play in Ward's favor are his movement, clinching, frustrating Kovalev with his elusiveness and counter punching, especially as I've seen Kovalev getting lazy a couple of times right after throwing 2 or 3 shots combos... Normally he does take a step back after his punches but it looks like sometimes he forgets to follow up on his one-one-two with a step back or some other kind of a defensive movement. His jab-jab-straight right often looks kind of predictable. I've never SEEN Kovalev fighting on the inside so I'm IMAGINING him having some problems with Ward there IF HE ALLOWS HIM TO COME THAT CLOSE.

 

Things that could play into Kovalev's favor are obviously his power, as well as Ward's non existent power, which makes me think it would be the reason why Ward won't be able to keep him off of him. Kovalev has a bit faster feet, has two great straight hands, a jab and a straight right, so no matter how well rounded Ward is, despite the fact that Ward normally doing very good fighting from the outside, I see Kovalev winning tha battle at long range. On Kov vs Ward long range battle - My opinion is that Kovalev has a bit faster feet, but even if someone would say that they have the equal footspeed it still doesn't matter because I have to add their arm lenght and their power to this long range equation. Ward is going to be there with a fighter with at least the same footspeed, but with a longer reach and more powerful straight shots, that's what makes me think Kovalev would probably win the exchanges at long range.

 

Some of Kovalev's shots seems predictable, for example his jab-jab-straight right: A lot of times there's what seems to me as a big time gap between his two jabs and the right hand, and it looks to me that his previous opponents couldn't take adventage of it because they were in full defensive mode, but I wouldn't be suprised to see Ward making him miss slipping outside of that right hand and counter him with a left hook if Kovalev forgets to take a quick step back after throwing the right. At mid-range Ward is at least as nice as Kovalev, plus he's elusive so he may be better there for a couple of early rounds but he's probably going to accumulate a lot of punishment there. Kovalev is good at mid-range too, but probably not as elusive as Ward so Ward may have some succes at mid-range at the beginning, but that's all because he has no power to stay there the whole fight. Kovalev's punching power is going to show there too so I see him getting better at mid-range as the fight goes on.

 

 

I see Ward doing much better at close distance because Kovalev needs some space for his punches and because I've never seen him in that situation... and combined with clinching, it would give him a lot of trouble, but that's only if Ward finds a way to come that close to him, because I remember how Kovalev kept taking quick back-steps against Hopkins and Pascal whenever they tried to close the distance. If he doesn't allow him to come that close to him, the fight would play out at lond and mid-range and it would probably look like Kovalev vs Hopkins.

 

Ward is surely going to make him miss more than usual, similar to Chilemba, but I don't see him outclassing Kovalev, if he wins I can see him winning a close decision at best. Barrera landed a lot of shots on him especially in the first half of the fight, I'm sure Ward would be much better prepared for Kovalev, but if Kov lands most of the shots Barrera landed, I think it would be a lot of accumulated punishment and that's why my prediction is Kovalev either by KO or UD.

mark my words :fantom:

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Odlicne vesti, potvrdjen revans izmedju Framptona i Leo Santa Cruza, za 28. Januar u Vegasu. Na undercardu Dejan Zlaticanin ima svoju prvu odbranu titule i to protiv Mikey Garcie koji je vrhunski bokser, P4P skillset! To su dva vrhunska meca.

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brado, gledo neki potkast, i neki lik sto kao prati iznese tvrdnju da je ggg na sparingu nokautirao kovaleva (sto je i ovaj drugi navodno potvrdio) i da je osurio od batina kanela.

jesi cuo mozda za te traceve?

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Mislim da to nije trac, Kovalev i John David Jackson su to odavno potvrdili, mada je na skorasnjoj konferenciji za Kovalev vs Ward, Kovalev na to pitanje odgovorio da nije istina, iako je to ranije potvrdio i to vise puta. U svakom slucaju sparing sesije realno nemaju neku vaznost, mnogo je tu faktora da bi se to gledalo kao pravi mec.Taj sparing sa Sergejem, gde ga je GGG nokautirao udarcem u telo, Sanchez, Golovkinov trener pominje cesto, inace lik je antipatican i dosadan sa svojim izjavama, pa tako pominje taj sparing da bi promovisao GGGja. Za Kanela je takodje istina, sparingovali su pre par godina, jedan od sparinga je bio otvoren za javnost, nema snimka ali su novinari pisali o tome, Douggie Fisher, ili kako mu je vec ime, pise za Ring magazin, je objavio detaljan opis tog sparinga, mozes da ga nadjes na netu.

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Ne vidim post Billy, jesi ga mozda izbrisao?

 

ma utripovo sam da sam onu tvoju analizu kovalev-ward borbe citao negde drugde, pa sam te pitao sta mislis o mecu. onda okrenem stranu i shvatim da tiltujem  ^_^

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