Turnbull Posted May 27, 2014 Author Share Posted May 27, 2014 (edited) Ima još! Ljudi se ljute na boba i Vladu, jer traže krivca za svoju nesreću. Samo da potraje ova solidarnostTamara Spaić | 25. 05. 2014. - 23:01h | Foto: P. Marković | Komentara: 3 Šok, žalost, saosećanje, ljutnja, a zatim strepnja i razočaranje - ovim redom nas emocije pogađaju kad nam se dogode nepredviđene katastrofe,kaže za "Blic" psihoterapeut Zoran Milivojević. Psihoterapeut Zoran Milivojević za “Blic” kaže da iz nesreće može da se izađe i sa pozitivnim iskustvom ako promenimo način na koji smo se kao nacija do sada ponašali i ako ne zaboravimo solidarnost koju sada pokazujemo. - Ovakve situacije mogu da pomognu da ljudi shvate kakvi bismo mogli da budemo i u redovnom stanju, a ne samo u vanrednoj situaciji. Kad bismo bili bolje organizovani i kad bismo državu doživljavali kao svoj širi dom, tad bismo razmišljali “ovo je naša država u kojoj mi živimo i ako je njoj bolje, biće i nama bolje” - kaže psihoterapeut s dugogodišnjom praksom u individualnoj, partnerskoj i grupnoj terapiji, internacionalni supervizor i edukator Međunarodnog udruženja za transakcionu analizu. Koje su dominantne emocije posle poplava koje smo preživeli? - Prva emocija je šok. Sve je naglo počelo da se događa, ljudi nisu verovali i zato su ostali u kućama. Kada su neke tako neočekivane, nagle, intenzivne promene, ljudi imaju problema da ih prihvate. Druga emocija je tuga i žalost. Izgubili su dom, a dom je centar privatnog sveta i porodice. Tuga nije emocija koja brzo prođe, ona je raspoloženje. Ljudi ulaze u proces tugovanja tokom koga se opraštaju od onoga što su izgubili. Naročito je to teško kod starijih generacija, kod ljudi koji su se mučili da izgrade svoj život, kuću, okućnicu, da odgoje domaće životinje. Kad to ode, to je kao da im se srušio ceo život i teško to prihvataju. Sa tim je povezan i očaj, a očajnik ne vidi budućnost i kako bi veliki gubitak mogao biti popravljen. Posle tog prvog šoka dolazi pitanje ko je kriv. Ima mnogo ljutnje i besa. Kako da se to prevlada? - Ljutnja i bes su prirodni. Ljudi su ljuti na boga, prirodu, vladu, državu. Postavljaju se pitanja zašto je nešto moralo da se dogodi, zašto se nisu bolje organizovali, da li je moralo tako da bude. Pojavljuje se i strepnja, koja je takođe snažno osećanje. Ljudi se pitaju šta će biti sa nama, gde ćemo, da li ćemo uspeti da stanemo na noge, da li će ova pomoć koja sad dolazi da se nastavi. Znate kakvi su ljudi, zaborave čim nešto nije udarna vest na televiziji. Kad prođe mesec dana, to je već davna prošlost. Ljudi se plaše da će biti zaboravljeni. Politička korektnostZbog dana žalosti su ukinuti TV programi, čak i dečje radionice, izložbe. Kako komentarišete to preterivanje?- Primetio sam da se pojavila neka nova vrsta političke korektnosti. Morate biti ozbiljni, saosećajni, žalosni ili vas ljudi odbacuju. To svakako nije dobro. Postoje standardi šta se može, a šta ne sme za dan žalosti, koji je neka vrsta prisile. Svako ima pravo na sreću iz ličnih razloga, ali pokazivanje sreće nije korektno. Nepristojno je biti srećan kad je oko vas toliko nesrećnih ljudi. Kako reaguju ljudi koji nisu direktno prošli stradanje nego to gledaju? - Imamo doživljaj da se to dešava nama, sa naglaskom na “mi”. Nisu nam ti ljudi daleko, tamo neki u Indokini, Africi, nego su naši i zato je identifikacija velika i izaziva saosećanje. Nama je žao što se to događa i u njima vidimo sebe, u njihovim porodicama vidimo svoje porodice i decu. Pošto znamo da tako velika nesreća može da se dogodi bilo kome, imamo impuls i osećanje dužnosti da im pomognemo. Takođe osećaju i moć i kažu “mogu nešto da uradim, idem da punim džakove, da nosim pomoć”. Taj momenat kad ljudi osećaju moć da nešto pomognu pretvorio se u masovnu solidarnost i veliku plemenitu akciju. Dokle će nas držati solidarnost? - Plašim se da će biti kratkog daha. Tu je problem našeg mentaliteta opisanog u onoj čuvenoj da Srbi pobeđuju u ratu, a gube u miru. Kad nas nešto napadne, mi zbijemo redove, zaboravimo na unutrašnja neprijateljstva i borimo se protiv spoljašnjeg agresora, u ovom slučaju protiv elementarne nepogode. Međutim, kad to prođe, pojave se podele između nas, ideološke, fizičke, regionalne i krene optuživanje, muvanja, nečiste radnje.Deca su najslabija i najviše ugrožena. Kako njima objasniti?- Sve ovo utiče strašno i na odrasle, a deca gledaju roditelje kako reaguju. Sa decom treba razgovarati i objasniti im šta se dogodilo, reći da će ljudi pomoći, da će se preseliti, da će biti bolje. Mi deci treba da ulepšavamo stvarnost, bez obzira na to da li lično verujemo da će biti bolje. Neki put lažemo decu jer nisu u stanju da se nose sa tim iskustvom. Da li nam prete depresije? - Ljudi koji su izgubili sve ne vide budućnost. Čuo sam jednu ženu koja kaže “Ostao nam je samo auto i pas”, sve drugo im je odnela voda. Radili su za to 30 godina i ne mogu ponovo još 30. Gubitak je primila kao gubitak svog života. Moje kolege su to shvatile. Psiholozi i psihoterapeuti su se organizovali i u velikom broju pružaju pomoć. Nije samo sada potrebna psihološka pomoć. Problem je u nedeljama i mesecima koji slede. Tek tada će im, kad reše osnovne egzistencijalne probleme i suoče se sa emocijama koje dolaze, trebati pomoć. Edited May 27, 2014 by Turnbull Quote Link to comment
svashtabezneshto Posted May 27, 2014 Share Posted May 27, 2014 Ima još! Ljudi se ljute na boba i Vladu, jer traže krivca za svoju nesreću. Svi mi imamo svoje pulene <_< Meni je ovaj tvoj dosadan i nekako predvidljiv (kao da ostali nisu, ali ostali znaju bar biti zabavni). :) Quote Link to comment
MancMellow Posted May 27, 2014 Share Posted May 27, 2014 Podmladak hora vučkih dečaka. Stručnjak za digitalizaciju. Gde li ih samo nalaze. U Briselu Quote Link to comment
Turnbull Posted May 27, 2014 Author Share Posted May 27, 2014 ALi nije tek dosadan, genijalno je dosadan! Quote Link to comment
Turnbull Posted May 27, 2014 Author Share Posted May 27, 2014 U Briselu Guglao sam i ja malo, ali opet ne razumem, vidim da je u nekoj euro-nešto organizaciji (euroblogger?), ali šta to zapravo znači? Quote Link to comment
MancMellow Posted May 27, 2014 Share Posted May 27, 2014 (edited) ne znam za to, sa linkedina http://www.linkedin.com/in/stevanrandjelovic http://www.eyif.eu/ ma to je sve ok. ono sto je problem sto pise nesto sa cime blage veze nema. al nekako me to ni ne cudi kod ovih... Edited May 27, 2014 by MancMellow Quote Link to comment
Turnbull Posted May 27, 2014 Author Share Posted May 27, 2014 Pa, ovo je kao naš novi ministar obrazovanja, ili Lazar (29) - štreberi koji misle da sve znaju i prave štetu jer ne vide u kom kontekstu i za koga rade. Quote Link to comment
MancMellow Posted May 27, 2014 Share Posted May 27, 2014 ma mene zanima ko je taj koji je dobio ideju da pita nekog kao on da pise o ovoako necemu. decko je ubacio apsolutno sve prazne fraze koje se mogu naci na srpskom jeziku. Quote Link to comment
freakns Posted May 27, 2014 Share Posted May 27, 2014 (od Milosevica koji je razgradjvao komunisticko nasledje do Vucica koji razgradjuje tekovine 5.10.) ovo je apsolutno netacno. ne razgradjuje Vucic nista. 5.10 su razgradili isti oni koji su idejom 5.10 dosli na vlast. oni su od prvog dana aktivno radili na zadrzavanju sistema iz devedesetih(svesno) i vracanju SPSa na vlast(delimicno nesvesno), Vucic je dosao na vlast u onom momentu kada je i poslednji deo 5.10 bio zakopan duboko u zaborav Quote Link to comment
Shan Jan Posted May 27, 2014 Share Posted May 27, 2014 Ta priča da narod ne valja i da je narod nešto gadno i grupno zgrešio nema nikakvog osnova. Narod godinama očekuje od političara ono što je suština egzotičnih demokratija - kradi, brate, kad si već toliko zapeo da kradeš, ali paralelno sa tim olakšaj nama život i pusti nas da dišemo. Pošto establišment jednostavno nije sposoban da provede na vlasti duže od tri dana a da za to vreme narodu kompletno ne opogani život, vremenom se napravio taj procep koji si opisao na prethodnim stranama. Srbiju je nekako uspeo da okupira onaj najgori ološ sa dna kace, zato se i ponašaju tako bahato i surovo prema sopstvenom narodu. Odlican post. Meni je muka od tog narod je pogan. Recicu samo isto kao i za narod je lenj mantru - daj priliku da pokazu koliko su lenji (pogani) pa da vidimo. A ono sto zapravo imamo je da je milion ljudi iz tog poganog naroda pobeglo glavom bez obzira iz zemlje a pobegao bi i ostatak samo da moze, toliko vole tu vlast koja im je valjda slicna. Mislim da idu mracna vremena za Srbiju. Vlast nece postati bolja bez zestokog vaninstitucionalnog pritiska stanovnistva. Nikakva demokratija nece promeniti stvar na bolje, jedino bes, protesti i pretnje na ulicama mogu da probude pijavice iz lagodnog sna i naterati ih da urade nesto za narod. Ne iz zelje za tim vec iz straha za svoju guzicu. Jedino strah moze pokrenuti vlast sa mrtve tacke jer vlast nije vise iz naroda nego klasa sa potpuno suprostavljenim interesima. Na zalost ne verujem da ce do toga doci jer da bi se prolio urlik mase ulicama potrebna je velika katastrofa. Potrebno je da se ekonomija urusi kao sto je to bilo 90tih. Potrebno je da narod zivi odjednom mnogo gore nego ranije. Mozda je takav narod bio u vreme zlobe, narod koji se secao boljih dana. Danas pak imamo omladinu koja nikada nije zivela dobro, koja nikada nije zivela bolje od ovoga i ta omladina ili gubi dane pomirena sa situacijom ili se bori svim silama da sebi omoguci bolji zivot, po mogucstvu negde daleko. A kad konacno dodje do boljeg zivota vise nema energije da ide u borbu sa vetrenjacama, odjednom ima porodicu i konacno lep zivot, nesto sto zaista moze da izgubi. Ne vredi... jedino sto moze da spasi Srbiju je tezak ekonomski brodolom. Ali prezivela je vlast u Srbiji i SEKU sa 400 000 izgubljenih radnih mesta, ne mogu da zamislim taj brodolom koji nece preziveti. Nema nade, bezite pogani, daleko daleko... Quote Link to comment
Caligula Posted May 27, 2014 Share Posted May 27, 2014 ni kvotovi nam vise ne mogu pomoci :P kvotovi su bili samo mahanje praznom puskom -_- Ali ne sumnjam kakvi bi rezultati na tim izborima bili kada bi glasaci imali danasnju pamet. Quote Link to comment
Hamlet Strašni Posted May 27, 2014 Share Posted May 27, 2014 молим вас да се вратите на тему Quote Link to comment
Budja Posted May 28, 2014 Share Posted May 28, 2014 (edited) ne znam za to, sa linkedina http://www.linkedin.com/in/stevanrandjelovic http://www.eyif.eu/ ma to je sve ok. ono sto je problem sto pise nesto sa cime blage veze nema. al nekako me to ni ne cudi kod ovih... Jedan od onih zbog kojih se glasa za FN, UKIP i tako tu ekipu. The European Young Innovators Forum (EYIF eyif.eu), is the leading Foundation for Youth Innovation in Europe. - See more at: http://younginnovator.eu/who-we-are/about-eyif/#sthash.1ZnBDzom.dpuf Edited May 28, 2014 by Budja Quote Link to comment
Budja Posted May 28, 2014 Share Posted May 28, 2014 ma mene zanima ko je taj koji je dobio ideju da pita nekog kao on da pise o ovoako necemu. decko je ubacio apsolutno sve prazne fraze koje se mogu naci na srpskom jeziku. Zato sto se time i bavi, frazama. Na linku koji si posla, who we are, nema apsolutno nista osim nabacanih birokratskih fraza. The European Young Innovators Forum, is an independent, non-profit, pan-European, bottom-up association dedicated to promoting youth innovation. EYIF has rapidly become the leading foundation for youth innovation in Europe reaching in excess of 400,000 participants across all EU member states, giving voice to a community of young innovators and experts who believe in taking risks, changing mindsets for innovation and the value of shared ideas and professional mentorship. EYIF Vision and Mission EYIF vision is to fundamentally change the mindset for innovation in Europe because we believe Europe’s growth and renewal depends on it. EYIF’s mission is to achieve this change of mindset for innovation in Europe by encouraging Young Europeans to take more risks for innovation and entrepreneurship, and equally, encouraging governments, businesses, society and individuals to support and reward such risk-taking. In particular, EYIF recognises, actively promotes and conducts activities specifically aimed at creating and sustaining Innovation Ecosystems in Europe that drive growth, through developing a risk-taking entrepreneurial spirit and culture amongst young Europeans and European society as a whole. EYIF Beliefs EYIF believes that in defiance of the deepening economic and financial crisis, of lagging innovation, and of record youth unemployment in Europe, together, using this shared-risk approach, we can empower European youth to play a transformative role in Europe’s future by offering them the inspiration, resources and mentorship to help them turn their talents, energy, enthusiasm, and innovative early-stage ideas into successful projects and businesses that will stimulate the economy and generate new employment. EYIF believes Innovation is THE driver for economic growth, social development and citizens’ progress and that Innovation fosters the development of European citizenship, particularly amongst young Europeans, by using the paradigm of shared endeavours and mutual responsibility to communicate the Union’s social and cultural values. EYIF History and Current Status The European Young Innovators Forum was formally launched at the European Parliament in 2010 at a joint European Commission, European Parliament and Belgium Presidency of the Council of the Europe Union event by Herbert REUL MEP, erstwhile Chairman of the Industry, Research and Energy (ITRE) Committee of the European Parliament; Neelie KROES, European Commission Vice-President and Commissioner for Digital Agenda and Vincent Van QUICKENBORNE, erstwhile Deputy Prime Minister for Belgium. Since then, EYIF has rapidly become the leading foundation for youth innovation in Europe reaching in excess of 400,000 participants across Europe, giving voice to a community of young innovators and experts who believe in taking risks, changing mindsets for innovation and the value of shared ideas and professional mentorship. The EYIF ecosystem equally includes opinion makers, policy makers, business leaders and political decision makers, and is the natural next step to years of ad hoc collaboration amongst young innovators, experts, industry and government across the EU. Headquartered in Brussels, EYIF consults and cooperates regularly with the European Parliament, European Commission, United States State Department, World Economic Forum, European Investment Fund, and other institutions like the OECD. EYIF is a core partner of the World Economic Forum’s European Entrepreneurship initiative, where EYIF is co-leading the main Work-Package of the project – “Promotion of Entrepreneurship”. EYIF is part of sevrel high-level expert stakeholder groups created by the European Commission, to help design the Web Entrepreneurship, Digital Entrepreneurship policy and Horizon2020 policy for Europe. EYIF recently joined the European Commission’s Open Innovation Strategy Policy Group (OISPG) as a full-member. EYIF has already built and is now expanding an international network of organisations (NGOs, foundations, companies, associations, universities, research centers, incubators, and informal groups), which actively support innovation, entrepreneurship and/or youth issues at national, regional and local levels. The community constituents are active as both independent innovators in several industrial sectors and also as actors in pan-European and International collaborative studies, projects and clusters in academia, research institutes, SMEs and Industry Innovation labs all across Europe. EYIF’s Board of Advisers encompasses leading Members of the European Parliament active in innovation policy including notably, its Vice-President, Alexander Alvaro and leaders of Fortune 100 and 500 companies and other corporations that are global innovation market leaders, the Head of Venture Capital of the European Investment Bank’s risk funding body, and partners of major seed and venture capital firms. Impact EYIF’s impact is significant due to the breath and depth of the community it works with, which is a large pan-European networked community of young Innovators and Entrepreneurs. EYIF’s community encompasses almost all member states and some neighboring countries. This active community engaged and animated regularly through online, social and offline media channels, and major community and policy programmes, projects and events like the Young Innovators Unconvention, Innotours, InnoPitch, InnoApps, et al. They represent five major clusters: Innovators: Young Innovators, Entrepreneurs, Professionals (21 – 36 yrs.) who are pioneers in their fields and have for years been involved in pan-European and International collaborative studies, projects and clusters Potentials: Younger potential Innovators (16 – 24 yrs.) who are curious about innovation, interested in developing their ideas and need to be initiated into collaborative innovation practices and ecosystems Experts: Senior Professionals, Respected Academics, Technical Experts, Gurus from Industry and Academia who inspire, guide and mentor Innovators and Potentials to succeed by leveraging expertise and technologies Opinion Leaders: Thought-Leaders, Journalists, Bloggers and Consultants who inspire Innovators and Potentials and guide and support the community on innovation horizons, trends and practices Decision Makers: Top Politicians, Policy Makers, EU and Government Officials and Business Leaders, who play key roles in shaping the future of innovation in Europe both from laws, regulations, policy perspectives as well as marketplace dynamics like growth and competitivity to support the community’s change of mindset for innovation EYIF can engage its entire community into this initiative, widely across Europe across all the demography it reaches. EYIF operates several online communications channels including: eyif.eu, younginnovator.eu, innoapps.eu, as well as eyif.wordpress.com, unconvention.eu, our Facebook presence facebook.com/eyif.eu, our Twitter feed https://twitter.com/EYIF, our YouTube channel youtube.com/eyifinnovator and our Flickr, flickr.com/photos/eyif/. In 2013 alone (1 Jan. till date), content posted by EYIF on its communication channels (email, facebook, twitter) has reached more than 42,000 people per day on average with more than 18 million impressions recorded of its content in 2013 with 800 people on average per day going on to physically click on a piece of content posted. Our Twitter account @EYIF has nearly 1300 followers, and over 3200 tweets to its credit. Our Facebook page (www.facebook.com/eyif.eu) has almost 6400 subscribers (“Likes”). 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