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  • 2 weeks later...

Evo kako Toni Nadal racuna ispravno ko je GOAT:

 

Ever since Novak Djokovic’s record-breaking 23rd Grand Slam victory at the French Open last month, debates on who deserves the coveted GOAT title in tennis have reached a fevered pitch. Toni had a more nuanced and philosophical take on this.

He believes that clear standards or benchmarks must be defined before the debate rages on about who is the ultimate GOAT. He used the analogy of track and field and other Olympic events to question whether the GOAT is the one with the world record or the one who has won gold at the Olympics.

Toni Nadal’s take on the GOAT issue is sagacious and incisive. The GOAT debate is unlikely to be settled anytime soon, as the passionate fan armies of the Big 3 will be unwilling to cede any opportunity to prop up their respective heroes. But one thing is clear: whether or not the Grand Slam title count is the sole criterion for establishing who the GOAT is is certainly subject to differences of opinion.

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skor protiv top ten igraca na slemovima

AO - RG - WB - US

 

Nole

25:5 - 15:13 - 12:4 - 14:8

 

Rozer 

21:10 - 8:12 - 19:7 - 16:6

 

Rafa

9:11 - 32:2 - 7:4 - 7:5

 

Rafael 71% uspesnosti, Novak 69% a Rodyer 65%, s tim da su ih Nole i Fed odigrali daleko najvise (skoro stotinu)

Borg 75% , Sampras 73% uz manji broj meceva naravno.

Novak jedini pozitivan na sva 4 , i jedini sa 10+ na svakom

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novom titulom u Sinsiju Novak je sad dvocifren po broju trofeja u svim etapama sezone.

kakva univerzalnost

 

- AO (10)

- Sunshine double (11)

- Clay masters (11)

- Channel slam (10)

- USO series (10)

- Asian swing (11)

- Indoors elite (12)

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Career match wins

 1274  Connors

 1251  Federer

 1069  Djokovic

 1068  Lendl

 1068  Nadal

 

malo upadica,

kad su zavrsili karijeru i nedugo zatim primani u kucu slavnih, Konorsu i Lendlu su racunali 1337, odnosno 1279 dobijenih meceva (jos se mogu naci izvestaji iz tog vremena)

a onda na scenu stupa internet sajt atp.com kad bivaju solidno potkresani, sklonivsi im iz salda brojne egzibicije i pozivne turnire.

kad je Rodzer pre koju godinu presao Lendla - cehov zvanicni skor je glasio 1071-239, sad je na tri pobede manje i tri poraza vise.

pre desetak god. kod Konorsa je stajalo 1242, potom 1253, da bi se pre par sezona ustalio na danasnjih 1274.

ono sto se nije menjalo je ukupan broj titula (109 i 94) i mislim da se po tom pitanju nece zaebavati u buducnosti, mada se sa veselim atp-om nikad ne zna..

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Rafa: "I'm not frustrated for a very simple reason: because I believe I did everything in my power for things to go as best as possible for me"

Interviewer: "Rafa, with 22 GS you cannot live frustrated. I'm telling you that."

R: "Of course you can! For example. I think Novak, in that sense, lives it in a more intense way than me. For him, I think it's a frustration... or would have been a greater frustration, not to achieve it. And maybe that's why he was able to achieve it."

 

 

 

 

 

Laki je malo frustriran sad kad se Kljako odlepio na 2 razlike. :zalosna:

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https://www.b92.net/sport/tenis/vesti.php?yyyy=2023&mm=09&dd=19&nav_id=2401264

 

"Ako idemo po brojevima, Novak Đoković je definitivno najbolji. Obara rekord za rekordom. I zadržava glad, a nema više šta da dokazuje. To je njegov karakter. Nikad nije srećan. Kao da uvek pokušava da nekome nešto dokaže. Ne znam šta i kome. Kao da želi osvetu", rekao je Cicipas.

 

Javljaju se pajaci, cirkuzanti, mediokriteti...

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