Tihajeza Posted December 6, 2019 Share Posted December 6, 2019 Kod nas su kružile beleške: Kad dođeš do konjskih trka, preskoči 30 strana; kad dođeš do ovoga onoga preskoči 15 itd itd... Quote Link to comment
napadaj Posted December 7, 2019 Share Posted December 7, 2019 (edited) http://www.novosti.rs/vesti/naslovna/hronika/aktuelno.291.html:834634-Otkriveni-napadaci-na-kupca-Megatrenda-Dejana-Djordjevica-pokusali-da-izbace-iz-stana-jer-mesecima-ne-placa-kiriju Edited December 7, 2019 by napadaj Quote Link to comment
đorđe geprat Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 On 6.12.2019. at 16:40, namenski said: I da @gospa buba procita konacno Rat I mir! Ali ceo, ne samo miran deo! moja gospođa je svojevremeno čitala mir, njen stariji brat rat. Quote Link to comment
Lena Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 U gimnaziji čitala Tihi Don i ostalo mi poslednjih 50-ak strana četvrtog toma koje nikad nisam završila Sećam se samo da mi je, u slučaju ekranizacije, za ulogu Aksinje uvek nekako padala na pamet Mira Furlan Quote Link to comment
gospa buba Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 28 minutes ago, djordje geprat said: moja gospođa je svojevremeno čitala mir, njen stariji brat rat. a kako drugachije! Quote Link to comment
MortimerBrewster Posted December 13, 2019 Share Posted December 13, 2019 ja sam zbog ruskih klasika u jednom trenutku mislio da batalim čitanje knjiga. kod dostojevskog uvek ima neki padavičar, onda neki crkvenjak dobra duha, malo sirot. neka mlada dama čistog srca od proste mame čezne za njim. muvaju se po petrogradskim salonima, onda intrigice sporednih likova uglavnom nebitne za priču, prduckaju francuski... neka nesrećna ljubav dvoje luđih je tu, da se "kidaju" i imaju debilne motivacije. pravoslavlje kao moralna vertikala... i ta jebena depresiva u likovima.... urghhh mislim bilo je dobrih stvari, ali mi se zgadilo negde posle prve knjige idiota, koji mi je po konstrukciji likova delovao kao karamazovi 2.0 (iako su karamozovi napisani kasnije, ali to je redosled kojim sam ja čitao). srećom, par mesecima kasnije sam otkrio voneguta i nastavio da čitam otprilike knjigu mesečno Quote Link to comment
gospa buba Posted December 13, 2019 Share Posted December 13, 2019 (edited) Quote mislim bilo je dobrih stvari, ali mi se zgadilo negde posle prve knjige idiota, koji mi je po konstrukciji likova delovao kao karamazovi 2.0 (iako su karamozovi napisani kasnije, ali to je redosled kojim sam ja čitao). srećom, par mesecima kasnije sam otkrio voneguta i nastavio da čitam otprilike knjigu mesečno posle idiota sam isto prestala da chitam knjige na neko vreme a tokom knjige intenzivno besnela. zbog idiota Edited December 13, 2019 by gospa buba Quote Link to comment
namenski Posted December 13, 2019 Share Posted December 13, 2019 2 hours ago, MortimerBrewster said: ja sam zbog ruskih klasika u jednom trenutku mislio da batalim čitanje knjiga. kod dostojevskog uvek ima neki padavičar, onda neki crkvenjak dobra duha, malo sirot. neka mlada dama čistog srca od proste mame čezne za njim. muvaju se po petrogradskim salonima, onda intrigice sporednih likova uglavnom nebitne za priču, prduckaju francuski... neka nesrećna ljubav dvoje luđih je tu, da se "kidaju" i imaju debilne motivacije. pravoslavlje kao moralna vertikala... i ta jebena depresiva u likovima.... urghhh mislim bilo je dobrih stvari, ali mi se zgadilo negde posle prve knjige idiota, koji mi je po konstrukciji likova delovao kao karamazovi 2.0 (iako su karamozovi napisani kasnije, ali to je redosled kojim sam ja čitao). srećom, par mesecima kasnije sam otkrio voneguta i nastavio da čitam otprilike knjigu mesečno Aham. Jeste da Rusi mrsomude na svetske teme, ali zato, recimo kod Francuza, Balzaka na primer, glavni junak nonstop juri neke pare, bogatu ljubavnicu, menice... (vidi pod Rastignac) A da ti ipak sve to procitas ponovo, ovog puta pazljivije, ono nije za leektiru nego za sebe, taj rad... I zajebi, ne podmeci pravoslavlje kao moralnu ili bilo kakvu vertikalu…. Quote Link to comment
Zban Posted December 13, 2019 Share Posted December 13, 2019 U Tolstojevom "Vaskrsenju" nema mnogo mrsomuđenja, a rekao je dosta toga. To mu je valjda poslednja knjiga i to ona zbog koje je ekskomuniciran. Preporučujem za razbijanje predrasuda o ruskim piscima. Quote Link to comment
Meazza Posted December 13, 2019 Share Posted December 13, 2019 (edited) Mozda je tema ozbiljna i sigurno vazna, ali to mu je umetnicki najslabiji roman. Jedno od najboljih (i najstrasnijih) njegovih dela je novela "Smrt Ivana Iljica". Edited December 13, 2019 by Meazza Quote Link to comment
Meazza Posted December 13, 2019 Share Posted December 13, 2019 A ako hocete nesto kratko, sto se cita za par sati, i toga ima kod Rusa. A. P. Cehov, "Paviljon br. 5", "Crni monah" ili maltene bilo sta od njega. Quote Link to comment
namenski Posted December 13, 2019 Share Posted December 13, 2019 Ima stari Lav Nikolajevic i pripovedaka, onoliko... A imaju Rusi i najjaceg svetskog pricaoca kratkih prica - Babelja. Pored O. Henrija, naravno... Za svakog po nesto… Quote Link to comment
foto Posted December 13, 2019 Share Posted December 13, 2019 provukoh se ja kroz 3 godine gimnazije (uglavnom na prijateljstvi sa direktorom) ali onda je dosla 4. godina i Proces i Kafka i zapecatih srpskohrvatski jezik sa ovacijama. ti svi rusi mnogo dugacki. ovi noviji em kraci em daju vise prostora za mlatimudjenje. u4. razredu profesorka srpskohrvatskog me nasamo pitala sto sam prespavao prva 3 razreda. Quote Link to comment
đorđe geprat Posted December 13, 2019 Share Posted December 13, 2019 moram da priznam, stidim se toga zbog vašeg poznavanja materije, da mi je ruska klasična književnost nepoznanica. minus u mom poznavanju je naprosto posledica procene da kad se primaknem kraju neću imati pojma o početku. probao sam sa tihim donom, odustao posle dvadesetak strana. tri knjige tihog dona su na polici ali rat i mir (izdanje 1946) poklonjen jednoj antikvarnici. žena je pročitala mir a ja nisam želeo da se bavim ratom. pošto nemam veze sa obrazovanjem, lektirom, kažite mi da li su u program lektire, na nekom nivou, predviđeni bredberi, l kare i orvel? Quote Link to comment
Meazza Posted December 13, 2019 Share Posted December 13, 2019 (edited) Ovu listu podrzavam: The 100 most meaningful books of all time A 2002 survey of around 100 well-known authors from 54 countries voted for the most meaningful book of all time in a poll organised by editors at the Norwegian Book Clubs in Oslo. Voters included Doris Lessing, Salman Rushdie, Carlos Fuentes and Norman Mailer. Miguel de Cervantes’ tale gained 50% more votes than any other book, eclipsing works by Shakespeare, Homer and Tolstoy. Ten authors got more than one book on to the list. After Cervantes, Fyodor Dostoevsky emerged as the most worthwhile read with four books listed. The only Shakespeare plays the authors agreed on were Hamlet, King Lear and Othello. The Bard was matched by Franz Kafka whose three angst-ridden tales of grotesque alienation on the list were The Trial, The Castle and the Complete Stories. Three works by Leo Tolstoy made it: War and Peace, Anna Karenina and The Death of Ivan Ilyich and Other Stories. William Faulkner and Virginia Woolf both scored twice, along with the Colombian Gabriel Garcia Marquez. Other than Don Quixote in first place below, the remaining 99 titles are reproduced as published by De Norske Bokklubbene in alphabetical order and are not ranked. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bokklubben_World_Library Don Quixote Miguel de Cervantes Things fall apart Chinua Achebe Fairy tales and stories Hans Christian Andersen Pride and prejudice Jane Austen Old Goriot Honore de Balzac Trilogy: Molloy, Malone dies, The Unnamable Samuel Beckett Decameron Giovanni Boccaccio Collected fictions Jorge Luis Borges Wuthering Heights Emily Bronte The Outsider (The Stranger) Albert Camus Poems Paul Celan Journey to the end of the night Louis-Ferdinand Celine Canterbury Tales Geoffrey Chaucer Nostromo Joseph Conrad The Divine Comedy Dante Alighieri Great expectations Charles Dickens Jacques the fatalist and his master Denis Diderot Berlin Alexanderplatz Alfred Doblin Crime and punishment Fyodor Dostoyevsky The Idiot Fyodor Dostoyevsky The Possessed Fyodor Dostoyevsky The Brothers Karamazov Fyodor Dostoyevsky Middlemarch George Eliot Invisible man Ralph Ellison Medea Euripides Absalom, Absalom William Faulkner The Sound and the fury William Faulkner Madame Bovary Gustave Flaubert A Sentimental education Gustave Flaubert Gypsy Ballads Federico Garcia Lorca One hundred years of solitude Gabriel Garcia Marquez Love in the time of cholera Gabriel Garcia Marquez The Epic of Gilgamesh Faust Johann Wolfgang von Goethe Dead souls Nikolai Gogol The Tin Drum Günter Grass The Devil to pay in the backlands Joao Guimaraes Rosa Hunger Knut Hamsun The Old man and the sea Ernest Hemingway The Iliad Homer The Odyssey Homer A Doll’s house Henrik Ibsen The Book of Job Anon Ulysses James Joyce The Complete Stories Franz Kafka The Trial Franz Kafka The Castle Franz Kafka The Recognition of Sakuntala Kalidasa The Sound of the mountain Yasunari Kawabata Zorba the Greek Nikos Kazantzakis Sons and lovers D H Lawrence Independent people Halldor K Laxness Complete poems Giacomo Leopardi The Golden notebook Doris Lessing Pippi Longstocking Astrid Lindgren Diary of a madman and other stories Lu Xun Mahabharata Anon Children of Gebelawi Naguib Mahfouz Buddenbrooks Thomas Mann The Magic Mountain Thomas Mann Moby Dick Herman Melville Essays Michel de Montaigne History Elsa Morante Beloved Toni Morrison The Tale of Genji Murasaki Shikibu The Man without qualities Robert Musil Lolita Vladimir Nabokov Njal’s saga 1984 George Orwell Metamorphoses Ovid The Book of Disquiet Fernando Pessoa The Complete tales Edgar Allan Poe Remembrance of things past Marcel Proust Gargantua and Pantagruel Francois Rabelais Pedro Paramo Juan Rulfo The Mathnawi Jalalu’l-Din Rumi Midnight’s children Salman Rushdie The Bostan of Saadi (The Orchard) Sheikh Saadi of Shiraz A Season of migration to the north Tayeb Salih Blindness Jose Saramago Hamlet William Shakespeare King Lear William Shakespeare Othello William Shakespeare Oedipus the King Sophocles The Red and the black Stendhal The Life and opinions of Tristram Shandy Laurence Sterne Confessions of Zeno Italo Svevo Gulliver’s travels Jonathan Swift War and Peace Leo Tolstoy Anna Karenina Leo Tolstoy The Death of Ivan Ilyich and other stories Leo Tolstoy Selected Stories Anton Chekhov Thousand and One Nights The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn Mark Twain Ramayana Valmiki The Aeneid Virgil Leaves of grass Walt Whitman Mrs Dalloway Virginia Woolf To the lighthouse Virginia Woolf Memoirs of Hadrian Marguerite Yourcenar Edited December 13, 2019 by Meazza Quote Link to comment
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