Pontijak Posted August 5, 2015 Posted August 5, 2015 Elem, onomad baletan premlatio glumicu - otkud mi znamo dal je ova nosila kratku suknju ili je to možda UDBA podmenula baletanu. Cirkus. to i ja napisah juce, da niko nije obratio paznju na to porodicno nasilje i taj srpski etnografski obrazac, premlatiti suprugu je prosto jedan narodni obicaj + umetnik, baletan, drzi automatsku pusku u stanu, ne napisase da li kalasjnjikov ili hekler i koh
Duci Simonovic Posted August 5, 2015 Posted August 5, 2015 A tek ta što mi antipatična, u top ogadnih ljudi u nas
Pontijak Posted August 5, 2015 Posted August 5, 2015 A tek ta što mi antipatična, u top ogadnih ljudi u nas to da li je neko nekome antipatican ne znaci da je prebijanje doticne osobe dozvoljeno ili da se to moze precutno odobravati
precog Posted August 5, 2015 Posted August 5, 2015 Ćao precog. Kad si mator čovek nije lepo dovatavati ni 16, čak ni 20, a klinci nemaju pojma pa nemaju pojma - ne zato što su mladi nego zato što ih niko ne uči ni o čemu. Pomeranje granice je lak i beskorisan gest. Zadovoljio bi samo neartikulisanu "brigu za decu" koja se u javnosti formira posle nekog slučaja kao što je ovaj, a onda splasne. Hoćemo još jedan krug? Ok, sad vec mozemo delimicno da se slozimo. Pomeranjem granice dobijas na zakonskoj zastiti djece od ljubitelja, nece spreciti hc ljubitelje, ali ce bar uciniti da oni manje hc razmisle o izboru objekta zadovoljenja. 16 jeste arbitrarno, ali je bolje nego 14. 2 ili 3 godine je velika razlika u tom uzrastu. Svakako bi trebalo ukljuciti neki vid edukacije, ali bi tek oko edukacije krenula usijana raspra u drustvu - u srbiji bi to proslo nikada. Naravno to nije izgovor, vise konstatacija.Poenta cele price je da je odgovornost na starijem da ne cini nesto sto ima velike sanse da napravi problem klincima, a posledicno i sebi. Ta odgovornost moze da bude podrzana i zakonskim aktom (ili kako se vec to kaze).
Hella Posted August 5, 2015 Posted August 5, 2015 to da li je neko nekome antipatican ne znaci da je prebijanje doticne osobe dozvoljeno ili da se to moze precutno odobravati +1 tačno se sećam kako smo svi bili zgroženi genocidom nad vučićem u potočarima i jednoglasno se složili da to nije lepo
JozoMujica Posted August 5, 2015 Posted August 5, 2015 Hella kulira, kulira, pa kad se javi na temu, tri posta za redom.
svashtabezneshto Posted August 5, 2015 Posted August 5, 2015 Evo jedne druge krajnosti, klinac, 19. godina, je preko servisa za upoznavanje upoznao klinku koja mu je rekla da ima 17. godina, a ima 14. Osuđen je kao seksualni prestupnik, bio u zatvoru tri meseca, i tako. When my son Zach met a girl through an online dating app, she said she was 17 years old and lived about twenty minutes away. The two decided to meet up and had consensual sex. Zach was a typical 19-year-old studying computer science at Community College -- until he found out that the girl had lied about her age and was really 14. Though the girl admitted to lying about her age and even her parents agreed the encounter was completely consensual and that Zach didn't do anything wrong, Zach found himself convicted of fourth-degree criminal sexual conduct charges. He'll now have to be on a sex offender registry for the next 25 years. He just finished serving 90 days in jail. Now he's on probation for the next 5 years and he's lost all of his work toward his computer science degree -- part of his sentence is that he can't use a computer or smartphone or live in a house with internet access. He can't even talk to anyone under 17. This has effectively ruined Zach's life. And it's clear to anyone who hears his story that he is not a sexual predator who needs to be on a sex offender list for 25 years. He's a teenager who met another teen like so many others do, online. In court, the girls parents didn't just ask the judge to show Zach leniency,they called for the case against him to be dropped altogether. Zach plead guilty but only because we were told he would be a candidate for Holmes Youthful Trainee Act status. The HYTA allows first-time offenders older than 17 but not yet 21 to avoid harsher penalties like the state-mandated 25-year listing on the sex offender registry. But the judge refused to listen to us, Zach, or the parents of the girl. Now Zach must live his life with a scarlet letter. He has to walk down the street and think: ‘Am I too close to a school? Is there a child who’s close to me? It's not right and it's not what the law was intended to do. As parents, all we want is for our son to be able to pursue his dreams and ambitions in life. We want him to be able to live a normal life. So we're asking that the Judge, the Prosecutor's office and the MDOC to drop all charges or grant HYTA to Zach. And we need your help. Please sign our petition to support Zach and say to the Judge, the Prosecutors office and the MDOC that the sentence given here is wrong, harsh, and unfair.
Dagmar Posted August 6, 2015 Posted August 6, 2015 Pa zato valjda postoje one klauzule o maloj razlici u zrelosti, bar kod nas. Što se ovog tiče, to je USA. Tamo možeš da ostaneš bez dece jer je neko video da si ih slikao u bazenčiću a bez košulje zakopčane do grla.
Weenie Pooh Posted August 6, 2015 Posted August 6, 2015 Ovo deluje da je previše i po USA standardima. Kako je uopšte stiglo do suda ako ni devojčica ni njeni roditelji ne misle da treba da ga terete za bilo šta?
Dagmar Posted August 6, 2015 Posted August 6, 2015 Ovo deluje da je previše i po USA standardima. Kako je uopšte stiglo do suda ako ni devojčica ni njeni roditelji ne misle da treba da ga terete za bilo šta? Žena zvala policiju kad mala nije stigla kući plašeći se da joj se nešto nije dogodilo, posle išlo po službenoj dužnosti valjda. Super je USA sa tim momentima iz Kafke.
Weenie Pooh Posted August 6, 2015 Posted August 6, 2015 Sudija verovatno ceni da doživotna zabrana pristupa kompjuterima i telefonima nije big deal, više onako vaspitni slap on the wrist, kao 90 dana u zatvoru. Nije da mu time oduzima praktično sve šanse za neki iole pristojan posao u budućnosti ili tako nešto... Još bolje je ovo kako ne sme ni da boravi u kući koja ima pristup internetu. Za deset godina neka se penje na planinu, ko ga jebe.
Pontijak Posted August 6, 2015 Posted August 6, 2015 Sudija verovatno ceni da doživotna zabrana pristupa kompjuterima i telefonima nije big deal, više onako vaspitni slap on the wrist, kao 90 dana u zatvoru. Nije da mu time oduzima praktično sve šanse za neki iole pristojan posao u budućnosti ili tako nešto... Još bolje je ovo kako ne sme ni da boravi u kući koja ima pristup internetu. Za deset godina neka se penje na planinu, ko ga jebe. e ovo je neverovatna recepcija antickog ostrakizma koji je najpoznatiji po presudi sokratu, pa se posle neki cude sto je on izabrao smrt a ne progonstvo
*edited by mod Posted August 6, 2015 Posted August 6, 2015 (edited) Auuuu sad sam tek cuo za taj slucaj. Jako me zanima taj proces u mozgu sudije kojoj dve strane vicu da ne treba nista a on/ona udari ovoliko kaznu... EDIT: obrazlozenje presude od strane sudije. ""You went online, to use a fisherman's expression, trolling for women, to meet and have sex with. That seems to be part of our culture now. Meet, hookup, have sex, sayonara. Totally inappropriate behavior,"" Edited August 6, 2015 by *edited by mod
Dagmar Posted August 6, 2015 Posted August 6, 2015 Ma mozak sudije nije upitan, čovek je očigledno neki puritanski debil. Mene više zanima koliko je ova presuda po zakonu, dakle koliko je u skladu sa onim što tamo piše i sa onim što bi neki malo neopterećeniji sudija odrezao.
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