45 minutes ago, x500 said:

Jel to uobicajeno tamo ovako glasno i emotivno nabijeno diskutovati?

10 hours ago, x500 said:

Hrvat zagovara pregovore s Rusima umesto rata. Oduzeti putovnicu

11 hours ago, Mel said:

Jel to uobicajeno tamo ovako glasno i emotivno nabijeno diskutovati?

Izgleda da jeste

Samo kad se obraca Ursuli.

10 hours ago, x500 said:

Izgleda da jeste

Ovo mi je vec prihvatljivije. Onaj Hrvat i je sav ko neki apgrejdovan SNSovac bio nekako...

Plate u Evropi, neto brojke, podaci od pocetka 2026 do danas prvih 15 zemalja

Rank,Country,Net Monthly Wage (€)

1,Switzerland,"€5,939"

2,Denmark,"€4,663"

3,Luxembourg,"€4,086"

4,Iceland,"€4,035"

5,Ireland,"€3,906"

6,Austria,"€3,778"

7,Norway,"€3,732"

8,Germany,"€3,730"

9,Netherlands,"€3,711"

10,Finland,"€3,105"

11,Sweden,"€3,104"

12,United Kingdom,"€2,726"

13,France,"€2,733"

14,Belgium,"€2,631"

15,San Marino,"€2,629"

Plate u Evropi poslednjih 15 zemalja

Rank,Country,Net Monthly Wage (€),Approx. Local Currency

30,Greece,"€1,150","€1,150"

31,Romania,"€1,100","5,600 RON"

32,Bulgaria,"€1,090","2,130 BGN"

33,Serbia,"€1,057","123,800 RSD"

34,Montenegro,"€1,025","€1,025"

35,Bosnia & Herzegovina,€861,"1,684 BAM"

36,North Macedonia,€757,"46,159 MKD"

37,Georgia,€740,"2,040 GEL"

38,Albania,€700,"68,500 ALL"

39,Moldova,€648,"12,450 MDL"

40,Turkey,€619,"22,100 TRY"

41,Armenia,€565,"242,000 AMD"

42,Kosovo,€552,€552

43,Azerbaijan,€515,935 AZN

44,Ukraine,€453,"19,500 UAH"

Erdogan, sa ogromnom inflacijom i padom lire, razbucao Tursku. Ali ono sto mi nije jasno sta se desava sa Azerbejdzanom, koji ima prosek od 515 evra, a imaju nafte i gasa. Primera radi, Gruzija ima skoro 700 evra, cak Jermenija je bolja od Azera.

Gruzija je zemlja koja poslednjih 5 godina ima najvece stopa rasta u Evropi, u proseku skoro 10% u periodu 2021-2025

Grcka, zemlja koja je bila u 90tim toliko ispred svih na Balkanu, sada jednaka sa Srbijom, Rumunijom, Bugarskom i CG.

Pri cemu treba reci da u PPP, paritet kupovne moci, tj. koliko mozes da kupis sa neto platom, Grci padaju ispod Srbije, CG, Bugarske i Rumunije.

Country, Nominal Net (€), PPP-Adjusted Net (€-PPP)

Romania, "€1,100"," €2,035"

Bulgaria, "€1,100", "€2,010"

Serbia, "€1,050"," €1,785"

Montenegro," €1,025", "€1,740"

Greece, "€1,150", "€1,610"

Inflacija u Evropi, Mart 2026

Rank	Country	Annual Inflation Rate (%)
1	Turkey	30.87%
2	Romania	9.9%
3	Ukraine	7.9%
4	Kosovo	6.7%
5	Russia	5.9%
6	Moldova	5.8%
7	Belarus	5.4%
8	Iceland	5.2%
9	Bosnia & Herzegovina	5.1%
10	North Macedonia	4.9%
11	Croatia	4.8%
12	Lithuania	4.5%
13	Bulgaria	4.1%
14	Greece	3.9%
15	Ireland	3.6%
16	Norway	3.6%
17	Slovakia	3.5%
18	United Kingdom	3.3%
19	Spain	3.3%
20	Estonia	3.3%
21	Montenegro	3.1%
22	Austria	3.1%
23	Germany	2.7%
24	Serbia	2.8%
25	Albania	2.6%
26	Netherlands	2.6%
27	France	2.2%
28	Hungary	1.8%
29	Italy	1.5%
30	Denmark	1.2%
31	Sweden	0.6%
32	Switzerland	0.3%

Inflacija u EU, Mart 2026

Rank	Country	Annual Inflation Rate (HICP %)
1	Romania	9.9%
2	Croatia	4.7%
3	Lithuania	4.5%
4	Belgium	3.8%
5	Slovakia	3.7%
6	Ireland	3.6%
7	Latvia	3.6%
8	Estonia	3.3%
9	Spain	3.3%
10	Austria	3.1%
11	Poland	3.0%
12	Bulgaria	2.8%
13	Germany	2.8%
14	Netherlands	2.6%
15	Slovenia	2.6%
16	France	2.4%
17	Portugal	2.3%
18	Greece	2.1%
19	Hungary	1.8%
20	Italy	1.6%
21	Sweden	1.5%
22	Czechia	1.5%
23	Cyprus	1.5%
24	Luxembourg	1.4%
25	Finland	1.1%
26	Denmark	1.0%

Evrozona April 2026

Rank	Country	Annual Inflation Rate (HICP %)
1	Bulgaria	6.2%
2	Croatia	5.4%
3	Lithuania	4.9%
4	Greece	4.6%
5	Belgium	4.3%
6	Slovakia	4.0%
7	Estonia	3.8%
8	Latvia	3.6%
9	Ireland	3.6%
10	Spain	3.3%
11	Austria	3.1%
12	Germany	2.9%
13	Slovenia	2.8%
14	Netherlands	2.5%
15	France	2.5%
16	Malta	2.4%
17	Portugal	2.3%
18	Finland	2.3%
19	Italy	1.6%
20	Cyprus	1.5%
21	Luxembourg	1.4%

Edited May 1May 1 by Emerald

5 hours ago, Emerald said:

Plate u Evropi poslednjih 15 zemalja

https://n1info.rs/biznis/plate-u-srbiji-statistika-radna-nedelja-najduza-u-evropi/

Sudeći po zvaničnim podacima, u Srbiji je 65€ manje od ovoga, što nas stavlja ispod CG i ispod 1000€. Ako se uzme u obzir i radno vreme, situacija je još gora

U Srbiji se, prema zvaničnim podacima evropske statistike i dalje radi ubedljivo najviše u odnosu na sve zemlje EU - 40,9 sata nedeljno, pokazuje izveštaj Eurostata za poslednje tromesečje 2025. godine. To je 5,3 sata nedeljno više od proseka na nivou cele Evropske unije.

Gora situacija nego u Srbiji je, i dalje, jedino još u Turskoj, gde se nedeljno radi 42,4 sata.

O medijalnoj zaradi i odnosu plata privatnog i javnog sektora da ne govorimo. "Statistika je kao bikini..."

EU zamrzla fondove stranoj zemlji koja je specijalnom operacijom hapsila EU drzavljane u teritoriji EU....

Not.

Izrael moze por Grckoj da radi sta hoce.

Baš na teritoriji EU? Video sam da je bilo nešto u međunarodnim vodama. Ali ajde i ovde, neka Grčka, Španija i Turska izađu iz NATO-a i nek bombarduju Izrael zbog genocida u Gazi. Ja ću ih podržati u tome, zaista, iskreno. Turska bez problema može da preuzme one američke nuklearke, nisu preterano branjene. Pa nek prete da će ih predati Iranu.

Edit: ovo sam hteo

Evo ti crno na belo koliko Evropljane zanima genocid u Palestini, po državama, brojevi u glavu. Oko 0,3% biračkog tela, a ovo je nešto najmanje što mogu da urade.

https://citizens-initiative.europa.eu/initiatives/details/2025/000005_en

Edited May 1May 1 by Engineer

Super je ovo,e samo sto kod nas ima oko milion radnika koji se vrte oko 750,800 evra plate, uz spektakularni evro koji se nikad nece pomeriti sa famoznih 117 dinara iako su nam cene kao da smo Holandija minimum sa platama i tako,sprdnja,zajebancija

47 minutes ago, Engineer said:

Ali ajde i ovde, neka Grčka, Španija i Turska izađu iz NATO-a i nek bombarduju Izrael zbog genocida u Gazi. Ja ću ih podržati u tome, zaista, iskreno. Turska bez problema može da preuzme one američke nuklearke, nisu preterano branjene. Pa nek prete da će ih predati Iranu

U, bre, ti si bas prso

Ne misliš valjda da ozbiljno očekujem tako nešto? Nego je danas tviter moralisanje i dalje najpopularnija aktivnost ljudi. EU ima svoju administraciju i uređenje takvo kakvo jeste. Ako neko ima predlog da se nešto menja, neka iznese. Ali prvo nek pogleda kandidate za EU parlament i odziv birača u Bugarskoj ili Hrvatskoj na primer. Pa i u Grčkoj. Pa onda glasanje članova po partijama u EU parlamentu i uporedi sa lokalnom (državnom) skupštinom. U većini slučajeva partija koju bih podržao u nekoj državi, glasa protiv onoga za šta se ja zalažem u EU parlamentu i obrnuto. Rekao bih da namerno to rade, ali mi se više čini da su samo budale i neznalice. Čest je to slučaj i u USA, na saveznom i državnom nivou. Da poludi čovek.

Tramp ponovo uvodi tarife na vozila iz EU

Trump says he will raise tariff on autos from European Union to 25%

https://www.reuters.com/business/autos-transportation/trump-says-he-will-raise-tariffs-eu-autos-25-2026-05-01/

• Trump cites EU non-compliance with trade deal as reason for tariff hike

• EU officials criticize move as arbitrary, warn of firm response

• Shares of Ford, Stellantis, GM down after tariff announcement

WASHINGTON, May 1 (Reuters) - U.S. President Donald Trump said on Friday he would increase tariffs on cars and trucks from the European Union to 25% next week, saying the bloc had not complied with its trade deal with Washington.

"Based on the fact the European Union is not complying with our ‌fully agreed to Trade Deal, next week I will be increasing Tariffs charged to the European Union for Cars and Trucks coming into the United States," he wrote in a social media post.

"It is fully understood and agreed that, if they produce Cars and Trucks in U.S.A. Plants, there will be NO TARIFF."

Trump told reporters at the White House the higher tariff would force European car makers to move their factory production to the U.S. more quickly.

"We have a trade deal with the European Union. They were not adhering to it. So I raised the tariffs on cars and trucks to 25%, that's billions of dollars coming into the United States, and it forces them to move their factory production much faster."

SLOW IMPLEMENTATION

The Trump administration last year imposed a 25% tariff on global automotive imports under a ⁠national security trade law, but finalized a deal with the EU in August to lower those duties to a net 15%, inclusive of prior duties.

In exchange, the EU agreed to eliminate duties on U.S. industrial goods, including autos, and accept U.S. safety and emissions standards on vehicles.

Although EU lawmakers advanced legislation in March to implement the tariff reductions, the process is not expected to be completed before June, as EU governments and the European Parliament negotiate final texts.

"President Trump's behavior is unacceptable," Bernd Lange, the chair of the European Parliament's international trade committee, told Reuters.

"This latest move demonstrates just how unreliable the U.S. side is. We have already witnessed these arbitrary attacks from the U.S. in the case of Greenland; this is no way to treat close partners. Now we can only respond with the utmost clarity and firmness, drawing on the strength of our position," Lange said.

A Trump administration official, asked to explain Trump's move, said: "The EU has not complied with the autos deal after eight months."

Kelly Ann Shaw, a top trade adviser to Trump during his first term who is now a partner with law firm Akin Gump Strauss Hauer & Feld, said she had expected a rupture with the EU for months, given the bloc's slow progress in implementing the trade deal signed in Turnberry, Scotland last summer.

"The U.S. effectively ‌implemented the Turnberry ⁠agreement as of August, and we're nearly a year later and we have yet to see the EU cut a single tariff," she said.

Shaw said Trump's action amounted to the first enforcement action against a country or bloc for not implementing trade deals, but there was still time for the EU to act to avert the higher tariff rates. She noted the action was also limited in scope. "He made it very specific to one type of sector and I think it's to put pressure on the Europeans."

Shares of Ford Motor (F.N), opens new tab were down 2% on the New York Stock Exchange after Trump's announcement, while those of Stellantis fell 1.7% on the NYSE. General Motors shares (GM.N), opens new tab dropped 1.5%.

Automakers have privately told Trump they will hold off ⁠on making significant shifts in production until they get more clarity on the future of the U.S.-Mexico-Canada trade agreement, which will see a formal review begin in July.

European automakers already have significant operations in the U.S., and some have announced expansions. In late March, Mercedes-Benz said it would invest $4 billion in its plant in Alabama through 2030, with total investment of $7 billion planned in U.S. operations.

Mercedes-Benz said last year it would shift production of its GLC SUV from Germany ⁠to Alabama. In February, it said group operating profit was more than halved to 5.8 billion euros ($6.9 billion) in part due to 1 billion euros in tariff costs.

Ryan Majerus, a former senior U.S. Commerce Department official who is now a partner with law firm King & Spalding, said the president's move may also reflect Trump's frustration that some European countries have balked at supporting the U.S.-Israeli war against Iran and refused to send their navies to help open the Strait of Hormuz, ⁠a vital waterway for the global oil market.

"This is not going to sit well in the EU, and I'm not sure the administration cares, because they're so incredibly antagonistic toward the EU," Majerus said.

Tensions between the U.S. and EU escalated this week after Trump threatened to reduce U.S. troop levels in Germany, Italy and Spain. The U.S. president lashed out after German Chancellor Friedrich Merz said the U.S. was being "humiliated" by Iran in talks to end the conflict in the Middle East.