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Buden sažima. Mene je razvalio sa onim iz intervjua, parafraza: "Nisam ja lično kriv za nečiju smrt ali znam da je od mojih para odleteo u vazduh neki deo dečije rukice ili nogice."

Takvih ljudi će se sećati jednom da su pričali dok su ostali ćutali.

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    Malopre čitam ovu vest, pročitao sam dva puta da vidim jesam li dobro razumeo. Iz perspektive političkog života u Srbiji ovo izgleda kao da se dešava na drugoj planeti.

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Srbija za to vreme prodaje oruzje Izraelu a Izraelci imaju neku kombinu sa AVom ili on sa njima kako god. Zlo i naopako.

Srbija prodaje oruzje svima koji nude kes. Ponasamo se u stilu najgorih ilegalnih trgovaca. Prodaje se Ukrajini dok se kupuje od Rusije, prodaje i Izraelu dok se kuka nad sudbinom Palestinaca, praodajemo i Saudima za rat u Jemenu a i gde god krenu da snimaju decu-vojnike po Africi vecito neko drzi Zastavin kalasnjikov. Da nas sutra neko napadne, verovatno bi smo i njima prodavali.

37 minutes ago, Shan Jan said:

Srbija prodaje oruzje svima koji nude kes. Ponasamo se u stilu najgorih ilegalnih trgovaca. Prodaje se Ukrajini dok se kupuje od Rusije, prodaje i Izraelu dok se kuka nad sudbinom Palestinaca, praodajemo i Saudima za rat u Jemenu a i gde god krenu da snimaju decu-vojnike po Africi vecito neko drzi Zastavin kalasnjikov. Da nas sutra neko napadne, verovatno bi smo i njima prodavali.

Prodavali smo Albancima na Kosovu 90ih.

U svakom slučaju, ovo je samo kontinuitet sa namenskom industrijom SFRJ koja je redovno snabdevala sva žarišta u svetu. Ako se dobro sećam, bio je i neki skandal kad se saznalo da je prodavano i Iraku i Iranu istovremeno za vreme njihovog rata.

Del Boj: Krijumčario si oružje za vreme građanskog rata?!

Deka: Činilo se kao najbolji trenutak.

Hajde da se ne zgražavamo što prodavcu ne smrde pare. Drugo je ako neko misli da oružarska industrija ne treba da postoji.

2 hours ago, Shan Jan said:

prodaje i Izraelu dok se kuka nad sudbinom Palestinaca

Iskreno, nisam primetio da kukaju.

Naprotiv, juče im bila Brnabićka sva vesela u gostima.

36 minutes ago, zorglub said:

Iskreno, nisam primetio da kukaju.

Od funkcionera niko ništa ne priča, ali imaju par opskurnih emisija gde iz hobija zovu neke čikice da brane Iran i Palestinu, da se zabavi moj deda npr.

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Jamie Dimon tells Europe: ‘You’re losing’

JPMorgan Chase boss warns on EU competitiveness and market complacency over tariffs

https://www.ft.com/content/cccbe89e-449d-4428-8704-be98351b716c

JPMorgan Chase chief executive Jamie Dimon warned European leaders they have a competitiveness problem and that they are currently “losing” the battle to rival the US and China. 

“Europe has gone from 90 per cent US GDP to 65 per cent over 10 or 15 years. That’s not good,” Dimon said at an event in Dublin organised by the Irish foreign ministry. “You’re losing.” 

The comments from Dimon, one of the most influential voices in global finance, underscore the challenges facing the EU as it battles to invigorate its economy.

Mario Draghi, the continent’s former top central banker, last year demanded a new industrial strategy for Europe with annual investment of €800bn to maintain competitiveness with the US and China.

“We’ve got this huge strong market and our companies are big and successful, have huge kinds of scale that are global. You have that, but less and less,” Dimon said.

It is an even blunter message from Dimon than he made in his most recent annual shareholder meeting in April, where he said “Europe has some serious issues to fix”, and urged European nations to “significantly reform their economies so they can grow”. 

Dimon, who has run JPMorgan since 2006, also warned that financial markets had become too relaxed about Donald Trump’s repeated threat of tariffs.

Investors on Thursday brushed off the US president’s latest threat of a 50 per cent tariff on copper, 200 per cent tariffs on the pharmaceutical sector and levies on countries including Japan and South Korea.

“Unfortunately, I think there is complacency in the market,” Dimon said. 

He said Trump had so far been correct in backing down from his biggest threats on tariffs, invoking the so-called Taco trade based on the premise that “Trump always chickens out”. 

“I hate to use the word ‘Taco trade” because I think he did the right thing to chicken out,” Dimon said.

Dimon saw trouble ahead for Trump if the economy struggled. “I think if the [US] economy weakens at all, he’s going to have a tough time.

Samo sto Dajmon nije rekao da je veci rast SAD poslednjih 10ak godina posleidca veceg zaduzivanja SAD. To se sada menja u Evropi. Ne ocekujem da ce EU presitici rastom SAD, bice priblizno jednaki, 1-2% rast.

5 hours ago, Emerald said:

Samo sto Dajmon nije rekao da je veci rast SAD poslednjih 10ak godina posleidca veceg zaduzivanja SAD. To se sada menja u Evropi. Ne ocekujem da ce EU presitici rastom SAD, bice priblizno jednaki, 1-2% rast.

Jasno.

Plus, americki GDP ima puno "praznih kalorija", kao sto je npr. rast "zdravstva". Kad se pogledaju razni job reports u zadnjih 10 godina, tu se gotovo uvijek vidi najveci rasto, ali to ne znaci da je zdravsto bolje. NIti u smislu povecanja ocekivanog zivotnig vijeka, niti u smislu efikasnijih i boljih uslgua. Tako de taj "rast" uopste nema svrhu za drustvo, niti je to generator nekakvog odrzivog ekonomskog napretka. Naprotiv, to je parazit koji ubija domacina.

Nego, da se vratimo na EU, neki dan francuska skupstina objavila ovaj izvjestaj, koji kreira obrise onoga sto bi trebalo biti tzv. strategijska autonomija. Koliko je ostvarivo, to je pitanje, ali ocito je da se stvari mijenjaju.

https://www.assemblee-nationale.fr/dyn/17/rapports/due/l17b1588_rapport-information.pdf

Gemini sazetak (podebljanja moja):

 

This document, described as a "rapport d'information" (information report), according to Arnaud Bertrand, calls for a "complete strategic realignment of Europe". 

Key points of the report, as highlighted in the search results, include:

  • It criticizes the European Union's current geopolitical position, calling it "vassalized" to the United States.

  • It argues that this alignment has caused the EU to lose influence and fail to protect its interests.

  • The report offers 50 recommendations, including:

    • Creating a "common world currency" to dedollarize the global economy.

    • Replacing the EU's Indo-Pacific strategy with a cooperative approach that includes China.

  • The overarching recommendation is for Europe to break from "Atlantic subordination" and achieve strategic autonomy through partnership with China, which the report characterizes as a historic reversal.

  • The report specifically mentions the "failure of European strategic choices" and the "dangers of a confrontational approach".

  • It also criticizes the EU's trade policy as being under American influence and the development of a "commercial defense arsenal" aimed at China. 

The 17th Legislature of the French National Assembly was elected in the 2024 French legislative election. Yaël Braun-Pivet was re-elected as President of the National Assembly on July 18, 2024, at the start of this legislature.  

Information reports (rapport d'information) are documents produced by parliamentary delegations or committees, often following consultations or research, with the aim of influencing future legislation or shedding light on various topics. 

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Lol, hoće stara dama da očijuka s novim bajom pretedentom na #1, kako očekivano. Koliko će joj trebati da ukapira da baja, ko god da je, očekuje i nešto zauzvrat? Ok, verovatno neće tražiti zemlju, šume i rudnike kao s usputnom opajdarom Srbijom, ali neki ustupci će morati da se prave.

Živ nisam kako će ovaj nalevo krug da prokomentarišu oni koji su približavanje Srbije Kini nazivali sigurnosno zabrinjavajućim trendom.

Tj. ako je sve ovo gore uopšte tačno.

13 minutes ago, zorglub said:

Lol, hoće stara dama da očijuka s novim bajom pretedentom na #1, kako očekivano. Koliko će joj trebati da ukapira da baja, ko god da je, očekuje i nešto zauzvrat? Ok, verovatno neće tražiti zemlju, šume i rudnike kao s usputnom opajdarom Srbijom, ali neki ustupci će morati da se prave.

Živ nisam kako će ovaj nalevo krug da prokomentarišu oni koji su približavanje Srbije Kini nazivali sigurnosno zabrinjavajućim trendom.

Tj. ako je sve ovo gore uopšte tačno.

Dokument je tacan. Koliko je realno izvodljiv, to je druga prica.

Primjerice, partnerstvo sa Kinom gotovo sigurno znaci slobodna trgovina. U tom slucaju Francuzi bi moglo komotno da ugase auto industriju i to odmah.

Mogu i bez toga

31 minutes ago, Engineer said:

Mogu i bez toga

Dakako da mogu, ali ne bez velikih lomova. Mrzi me da provjeravam, ali mislim da drzava ima znacajan vlasnicki udio u Renaultu. Koliko je politicki prihvatljivo gasenje takve firme?

No, moja poenta nije (samo) o automobilskoj industriji: stvar je daleko sira i Francuska (kao i veci dio EU) ne moze konkurisati Kini gotovo ni u cemu i nekakvo "ravnoprano" partnerstvo kojie bi moralo ukljucivati i slobodnu trgovinu bi automatski stavilo Francusku u podredjen polozaj, vjerovatno gori nego sad vis-a-vis SAD.

A ako nema slobodne trgovine - zasto bi Kina uopsta ulazila u to "partnerstvo"? Plus, kako bi to fukcionisalo gleda rata u Ukrajini i moguce invazije na Tajvan ili sukoba sa SAD?

Mada, njihova drzava, neka rade sto misle da je najbolje za njih.

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