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Politika u UK

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  1. 1. da sam podanik krune, glasao bih za:

    • jednookog skotskog idiota (broon)
      17%
      17
    • aristokratskog humanoida (cameron)
      17%
      17
    • dosadnog liberala (clegg)
      34%
      34
    • patriotski blok (ukip ili bnp)
      31%
      31

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The political scientist Prof Sir John Curtice told the BBC that while Reform was clearly winning the most votes in early counts, it had “probably not” reached 30% of the vote, an indication of the fracturing of British politics.

Curtice said: “It may well be now that Labour lose rather less than the 1,500 seats that perhaps some people said was potentially the tipping point for attempts to unseat Keir Starmer.”

He said: “[Reform] are basically being trailed by four parties that are all of them just a little bit below 20% or so, somewhere between 15 and 20%, but are actually at the moment quite difficult to disentangle.”

He added that the Greens were struggling to convert votes into seats because they were getting “far too many creditable second and third places”.

Reform were the runaway winners in north-east England. They won every single one of the 12 seats up for grabs in Hartlepool. It means Labour, which had a slim majority and was defending six seats, is likely to become the opposition.

Because only a third of the council was being elected, Reform will not have an outright majority. The party will have to make deals with independents in order to take control.

Labour councillors and supporters were noticeably despondent at the count in Brierton sports centre. The town’s Labour MP Jonathan Brash watched his wife, Pamela Hargreaves, the leader of Hartlepool council, lose her seat.

He told the Guardian he was angry and repeated his call for Starmer to go.

“It has been a terrible night for the Labour party,” he said. “What I’ve seen here is extraordinarily good, hard-working Hartlepool people lose their seats. I’ve seen canvassers working night and day in this election and it’s all been for naught and the reason has absolutely nothing to do with them.

“They are delivering for this town, they have been delivering for this town and the reality is we need change at the top of the Labour party.

“I think the very best thing the prime minister could do now is address the nation tomorrow and set out a timetable for his departure. We can then have an orderly transition, one that, by the way, ensures the full breadth of talent within the Labour party is able to stand, should it want to.”

John McDonnell, the former shadow chancellor under Jeremy Corbyn, said a leadership change must be “on the agenda” if the results overall prove “the nightmare as we are worried it will be”. But he added: “If there is to be a leadership change, it has to be an orderly transition, not a coup.”

The Green deputy leader, Rachel Millward, told the BBC her party was optimistic about taking control of Hackney council in east London and said: “We will make some exciting breakthroughs ... this will be seen as a step change moment for us as a party.” But she suggested that because of the electoral system the number of seats gained would not match the Green share of the vote across the country.

The Liberal Democrat deputy leader, Daisy Cooper, hailed the party’s “stonking results” in local elections so far, pointing to the party taking control of councils in Stockport and Portsmouth. She said in a statement: “The Liberal Democrats are on a record-breaking winning streak. We are heading for our eighth set of local election gains in a row and are on track to beat Labour and the Conservatives once again.”

The turnout was 31.5%, slightly higher than the 28% of the last local elections in 2024.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2026/may/08/labour-reform-uk-england-local-elections-2026-scotland-wales

Reform bi imao losiji rezultat na drzavnom nivou jer je izlaznost na lokalnim skoro duplo slabija od drzavnih izbora, kada gvorimo o Engleskoj.

Ljudi iz Hartlpula su su u pravu, lokalni clanovi Radnicke stranke su bolji od Reform, koja je tek u fromiranju i ko zna sta se sve tamo skupilo i pitanje je sta ce biti sa Reform do drzavnih izbora. Ali uticaj politike sa drzavnog nivoa "kosi" lokalno Radnicku stranku.

Hartlpul, tipican radnicko-industrijski grad sa severa Engleske, koji je bio skoro 50 godina u nizu uporiste Radnicke stranke ali nije da su sada prvi put izgubili, vec su ih Torijevci pobedili 2021.

Sto je sve vec poznati znak nezadovoljstva na severu Engleske, koji je postao najsiromasniji kraj Britanije, sa procesom deindustrjalizacije, koje je zakucala Tacerka. Sefild, kraj cuvenog celika jos opevan kod The Clash, Njukasl, Sandrlend, Midlsbro su bila snaga koja je "vladala svetskim talasima".

Sa druge strane, pitanje je da li se ta industrija mogla spasiti. Britanija je pre radikalnih mera Tacerke vec krenula u deindustrjalizaciju ali ona je to zakucala. Ja mislim da je nesto moglo.

Ali se barem Mancester izvukao, stavise, ali ne moze svaki industrijski pogon na severu da bude zamenjen sa finansijama, medijima i interent tehnoloskim preduzecima, kao u Mancesteru.

To su im koreni-sindikati i radnici.

Mada dosta protestanstka i socijalisticka na pocetku, "hriscanski socijalisti"

To je stranka direktno povezana sa nastankom radnicke klase kao poseldice Industrijske revolucije, pre njih su glavni protivnici Torijevaca bili Whigs, sustinski liberali. Bili oni i u SAD pre GOP.

To sve znas i sam.

New Labour je bio pokusaj transformacije ka Whigs pozicijama jer je posle Tacerke znacaj radnicke klase, onako kako je predstavljana od strane Radnicke stranke od 1900, pocela da se menja. Ili se barem tako mislilo.

14 minutes ago, Emerald said:

To sve znas i sam.

Mislim da se odnosi na to da ih niko ne naziva tako na srpskom.

Greens uzeli Hackney.

5 hours ago, jms_uk said:

Mislim da se odnosi na to da ih niko ne naziva tako na srpskom.

Upravo tako. Mislio sam prvo da ima neka lokalna Radnička partija u Blekpulu...

Na srpskom ima i termin laburizam.

Ima i FK Laburisticki, iz Nis.

13 minutes ago, Seabass said:

Ima i FK Laburisticki, iz Nis.

Meraklije Blekpul 😂

Ouch.

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deluje da je Starmeru odzvonilo. ko je favorit da ga zameni?

9 minutes ago, Gandalf said:

deluje da je Starmeru odzvonilo. ko je favorit da ga zameni?

Niko.

U zrijebu su Rayner, Streeting, Milliband i Burnham. Bio je jos jedan lik ali sam mu zaboravio ime, neki bivsi vojnik.

Rayner i Streeting su nepopularni i liability. Rayner ima neki nerazjasnjen tax issue sto ce desna stampa da muze dok je ne skenjaju. Streeting je neznatno popularniji od Starmera, koji je najnepopularniji PM u istoriji. Milliband ima stigmu jer je vec jednom izgubio izbore, a Burnham, koji po mnogima ima najvise sansi da okrene kolo srece, nije ni clan parlamenta (neophodna kvalifikacija za PM) i trebala bi mu dozvola od Starmera da se uopste kandiduje.

Osim toga, svi oni ce da podnesu gubitke u svojim opstinama, tako da vjerovatno Starmera nece dirati dok se ovo malo ne slegne Ja racunam do jeseni.

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