Coronavirus Covid-19 - opšta tema

[omiljeni]

super je ta taktika "jebo lud zarazenog" u trenutku kada se ne zna
1) da li se uopste i
2) koliki imunitet stice.
 
 

Pa logicno je da bude neki imunitet.
ako se organizam izborio i postao je virus free onda bi valjda morala postojati antitela. I valjda ta antitela nece odmah nestati.

Od medine imam da sam prosao bar 1000 puta pored faksa i bio na nekoliko brucosijada. Samo laicki nagadjam.

[borris_]

Coronavirus : Une maison close en Belgique mise en quarantaine avec ses 42 clients à l’intérieur

 

😁

 

U bordelu u Belgiji karantin sa 42 klijenta.

[Jumanji]

[napadaj]

[peralozac]

Nadam se da će nešto ispasti od ovoga. 

 

Izvor

 

A team of Australian researchers say they’ve found a cure for the novel coronavirus and hope to have patients enrolled in a nationwide trial by the end of the month.

University of Queensland Centre for Clinical Research director Professor David Paterson told news.com.au today they have seen two drugs used to treat other conditions wipe out the virus in test tubes.

He said one of the medications, given to some of the first people to test positive for COVID-19 in Australia, had already resulted in “disappearance of the virus” and complete recovery from the infection.

Prof Paterson, who is also an infectious disease physician at the Royal Brisbane and Women’s Hospital, said it wasn’t a stretch to label the drugs “a treatment or a cure”.

“It’s a potentially effective treatment,” he said.

“Patients would end up with no viable coronavirus in their system at all after the end of therapy.”

The drugs are both already registered and available in Australia.

“What we want to do at the moment is a large clinical trial across Australia, looking at 50 hospitals, and what we’re going to compare is one drug, versus another drug, versus the combination of the two drugs,” Prof Paterson said.

Given their history, researchers have a “long experience of them being very well tolerated” and there are no unexpected side effects.

“We’re not on a flat foot, we can sort of move ahead very rapidly with enrolling Australians in this trial,” Prof Paterson said.

“It’s the question we all have – we know it’s coming now, what is the best way to treat it?”

Prof Paterson said positive experiences in the fight against coronavirus have already been recorded overseas, citing China and Singapore. His research team are confident they can start getting the drugs to patients in a very safe way on home soil.

“We want to give Australians the absolute best treatment rather than just someone’s guesses or someone’s anecdotal experiences from a few people,” Prof Paterson told news.com.au.

He said they hope to be enrolling patients by the end of March.

“And that way, if we can test it in this first wave of patients, we do fully expect that there are going to be ongoing infections for months and months ahead, and therefore we’ll have the best possible information to treat subsequent patients,” Prof Paterson said.

“That’s really our aim, to get real world experience in Australia.”

He said the trouble with the data coming from China was that it wasn’t really gathered “in a very controlled way”, given they were the epicentre of the coronavirus outbreak at the time.

“Things were just chaotic,” Prof Paterson said.

“There were these emergency hospitals being built and the system really being very, very stretched.”

One of the two medications is a HIV drug, which has been superseded by “newer generation” HIV drugs, and the other is an anti-malaria drug called chloroquine which is rarely used and “kept on the shelf now” due to resistance to malaria.

He said the researchers want to study them in a “very meaningful way” against the coronavirus to “try and alleviate that anxiety of Australians”.

“There have already been patients treated with these in Australia and there’s been successful outcomes but it hasn’t been done in a controlled or a comparative way,” Prof Paterson said.
The drugs would be given orally, as tablets.

Prof Paterson said patients would be asked to participate “as soon as they’re admitted” to hospital with the aim of beginning treatment “very early on in their illness”.

He said the research was sparked by Chinese patients, who were first given the drug in Australia, showing their doctors information on the internet about the treatment used overseas.

“Our doctors were very, very surprised that a HIV drug could actually work against the novel coronavirus and there was a bit of scepticism,” he said.

“That first wave of Chinese patients we had (in Australia), they all did very, very well when they were treated with the HIV drug.

“That’s reassuring … that we’re onto something really good here.”

he RBWH Foundation has established a Coronavirus Action Fund. By Monday afternoon it had raised $30,000 of the desired $750,000 for the clinical drug trials and other related medical research.

“The trials will start as soon as funding is secured,” the fund states.

When asked why they had to put a call out money, Prof Paterson said they “want to give as many people in Australia access to this” and can’t take doctors away from their normal work.

“The reality is that doctors are going to need to be concentrating on their patients and we need to get a very strong research team across Australia that can make sure that all the Is are dotted and the Ts are crossed and make sure that it is a really high-quality study so that we can be really confident in the results,” he said.

“We did this with bushfires, this is an example where we’re reaching out to the public to put the financial support behind the study so it can get underway.

“Fifty hospitals have expressed interest in participating and we expect there may even be more to come.”

[cedo]

1 hour ago, steins said:

 

Kakva je to dobra vest koju je Venko najavio za sutra? 

 

 

i ja cu dva puta da odgovorim ko budja danas

 

ne znam sta za sutra, ali veceras nema dobrih vesti

4 nova slucaja u debru (debar je zatvoren)

1 novi slucaj, zena iz skoplja, dosla iz beca pre 3-4 dana i imala simptome jedan dan ranije, ali danas se javila i bila u samoizolaciji

putnici iz aviona (31) se sada traze da se stave u karantin kao i taksista koji ju je dovezao sa aerodroma

 

jos dvoje imaju pozitivan test ali su se testirali privatno pa sada ti testovi moraju da se potvrde

 

zatvaraju se svi granicni prelazi za strane drzavljane i vozila, osim za teretna vozila, diplomate i lica sa posebnom dozvolom

zatvara se aerodrom skoplje (stupa za dva dana na snagu) osim za drzavne, vojno medicinske i prazne letove

Edited March 16, 2020 by cedo

[Caligula]

7 minutes ago, Ravanelli said:

Boli me glava od procitanog. Banujte ga na dva meseca

 

brt u Srbiji je do juce bila taktika da se testiraju samo oni koji ispunjavaju uslove da su bili u zarazenim podrucjima, tacka. Odnos testiranih i pozitivnih je negde oko 1:5, dakle svaki peti.  Ali zato, samo u jednoj kineskoj provinciji u piku epidemije testirano je 300 000 ljudi, procenat pozitivnih na virus bio je 0.5%. Dakle svaki dvestoti.

 

Dakle ima "epidemiologa"  i epidemiologa. Ovi drugi su uspeli da smire epidemiju, a za ove prve cekamo da vidimo sta ce se desiti.

 

Jos se secam onog hrvata Rudana koji je pre samo dve nedelje tvrdio da je ovo obican grip. Posle samo nedelju dana pevao je drugaciju pesmu.

[borris_]

Nadam se ali bojim se da ce sada svaka laboratorija izaci sa ovakom le nekom izjavom.  Sada je trka ko će prvi naći lijek.

[Jumanji]

Znaju sta rade

[steins]

Nadam se ali bojim se da ce sada svaka laboratorija izaci sa ovakom le nekom izjavom.  Sada je trka ko će prvi naći lijek.

Jbga, Trump ih je uzburkao sa onom kupovinom nemačke firme.
Sad su.svi nanjušili lovu [emoji6]

Послато са Mi 9T помоћу Тапатока

[borris_]

Pokusavam kupovine, nije uspio.

[mackenzie]

Sve stoji, ali mi nemamo pojma o testovima.

 

Ko ih proizvodi? Koliko koštaju? Koliko su pouzdani?

[Djuro]

U Madjarskoj postoji privatna klinika koja ih radi: oko 90 eura je cena testa, rezultati za 24h.

Ako ne mozes da odes licno, dodju oni do tebe za jos 50 eura.

Pouzdanost je vrlo visoka, krajnji rezultat se potvrdjuje u nacionalnoj laboratoriji.

 

Edited March 16, 2020 by Djuro

[Dankan Ajdaho]

Imamo li neki baš pouzdan izvor koji potvrđuje da se korana prenosi vazduzom? Treba mi radi ubeđivanja jednog skeptika.

[Redoran]

Изгледа да је почело мало озбиљније тестирање у Турској. До данас све укупно 18 заражених а данас 29 нових, укупно 47. Ни то наравно нема везе са стварношћу али по свему судећи нема више бизарно малих цифара да се народ не узнемирава. И онако сви виде шта се дешава по Европи.

 

Утешни податак је да смо други у Европи по броју респиратора и лежајева на интензивној, одмах иза Немачке.