hazard Posted December 6, 2016 Posted December 6, 2016 (edited) Ako neko ucini da desnicari budu kul, to ce biti Francuzi - oduvek su znali kako da ,,upakuju" stvar... http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/young-right-wing-activists-europe-1.3874247 CBC IN FRANCE 'We won't back down': Young right-wing activists agitate across Europe for an idealized past Greenpeace-style shock tactics and video used to campaign against immigration and Islam By Michelle Gagnon, CBC News Posted: Dec 05, 2016 5:00 AM ET Last Updated: Dec 05, 2016 5:42 AM ET Pierre Larti, 27, is a spokesman for Génération identitaire, an anti-immigration activist group active across Europe. (Michelle Gagnon/CBC) They are traditionalists with a YouTube channel, nostalgic nationalists who text and tweet. Young, white and European, they call themselves Identitarians, right-wing activists agitating across the continent against immigration and Islam and for a future rooted deep in an idealized past. "I'm a product of my time," says Pierre Larti, a spokesman for Génération identitaire (GI), the French branch of the movement. "But I know the difference between what is good in this era and what isn't." Larti is buff, squeaky clean and, at 27, already part of the old guard of the movement. Génération identitaire uses of range of strategies to get its message across, from Greenpeace-style shock tactics to postering and stickering in like-minded neighbourhoods. (Michelle Gagnon/CBC) After a long day and a meeting that ran late — Larti works in HR at a yogurt factory — he travelled more than 50 kilometres to lead a low-tech, late-night postering and stickering campaign in Issy-les-Moulineaux, a suburb just outside Paris. "I've lived in this multiethnic society and seen its ravages, the dangers it poses for us, for the French. We've become passive, too accepting," Larti says. "We accept the veil in the public square. We accept burkas. Little by little, we accept everything. We accept that France now has more than 2,500 mosques. "We accept one or two attacks a year," he pauses and then asserts: "I cannot accept that." Shock tactics Neither, apparently, can scores of other youth across Europe. Best organized and most militant in France, Germany and Austria, Identitarians have a presence in Italy, Poland, Lithuania, Slovenia and Denmark, according to Larti. The movement emerged in France in 2002 but the youth wing soon became a tangle of organizations that disbanded and regrouped until they coalesced in GI in 2012. "We decided to concentrate on pure politics and create GI with a bang." In October 2012, they released a video entitled Declaration of War as a kind of founding document. One of the early propaganda videos released by a newly unified Génération identitaire in 2012. http://youtu.be/fYJB-wjrGsM It immediately established them as savvy 21st-century communicators, as did their use of Greenpeace-style shock tactics for their inaugural action: the occupation of a mosque under construction in Poitiers, a city in western France. Larti was there. "One of the biggest mosques in Europe was being built," he says. "You have to know that in French history, in Europe's history, Poitiers is a symbol. It's where Charles Martel stopped the Arab invasion in 732. Thirteen hundred years later, we consider this a provocation." Dominique Albertini, a journalist who covers the far-right National Front (FN) for the newspaper Libération, says they're a great school for activists, which is why some of them eventually end up in the FN. "The far right is like a constellation with the FN as its core and a bunch of little movements gravitating around it," he says, explaining how the FN takes up most of the oxygen. "It's become hard to exist on the far right now without a specific niche, but GI managed to find one by concentrating on dramatic action and their ethnocultural arguments." The 'great replacement' Across Europe, the movement shares a logo in the Spartan lambda, "a symbol of the courageous armies that pushed back the invader which speaks to us, to the charge we're leading today," Larti says. Their arguments are built on the language of conventional warfare and carefully formed around their own awkward constructs. As their argument goes, "immigration-Islamicization" has put their countries under siege, the "great replacement" of European populations by Muslims now apparently underway. They argue "remigration" — the reversal of migration and the eventual return of immigrants to their homelands wherever they are — is essential to reconquering their countries and re-establishing their shared European identity. "The idea is to say 'there's nothing for you here,' it's our home," Larti says. "There's no money, there are no jobs, and anyhow you won't be happy here because, in Europe, we eat pork and our women can dress as they like, work and have rights." A white world "It's a cultural, not an electoral, fight," Albertini says of GI. "Values and mindset are what matter most. "At the core of their combat is an ethnically and culturally homogeneous society. As opposed to the FN, they talk about the unity of European civilization and of a white world." FN leader Marine Le Pen has spent considerable effort de-demonizing the party, trying to rid it of any traces of anti-semitism, homophobia and racism. "Le Pen will speak about issues in terms of citizenship," says Albertini. "She has to talk to the base and the outside world at the same time, and I think she's pretty deft at it. Her speeches are filled with traditional references to the Republic that remain open to interpretation." Despite their differences, Albertini believes that Le Pen's nationalist, anti-EU, anti-immigration campaign benefits from GI's crusade. "What is clear is that FN militants are much closer to this kind of thinking than Le Pen is. I'm convinced of it," he says. "But there are no official links because it doesn't suit either of them. They're [GI] an audacious avant garde, but there's no percentage in having them as the little brother." Larti couldn't agree more. "We're complementary," he says. "We're the pointsmen: what are the most important themes, what are the solutions. And, more concretely, I think that 95 to 99 per cent of GI activists vote FN." A fact that may be of relative value, at least for the moment. Larti says the Identitarians now number in the thousands across Europe and that GI's numbers are growing weekly. He says there are 2,500 members in France, 300 in Paris alone. But Albertini is dubious and believes that their shock tactics are more impressive than their numbers. Certainly, the stickering in Issy-les-Moulineaux pales in comparison to the Poitiers occupation or the barricade GI erected in Calais last March to keep migrants out of town. http://youtu.be/Vj9Wlv3uIcM The outing is a small affair that counts 12 people traipsing around suburban streets. They talk about their day, laugh, smoke. One woman is talking in Spanish on her cellphone throughout the whole exercise. It could just as well be a bunch of teens and 20-somethings whiling away after-dinner hours. It sort of is. "Stickering is not the most thrilling," Larti says, "but it is how I got to know about the group." Max, a translator who joined more than four years ago, says "me, too." "I wasn't looking for anything but I came across a sticker and connected with it, so I sought them out." Albertini says they do have some influence. "It's hard to say whether it can be attributed directly to them, but some of their expressions have made their way into public debate." "We won't back down" is one of them. Edited December 6, 2016 by hazard
dragance Posted December 14, 2016 Posted December 14, 2016 Macron urla za govornicom :D http://www.francetvinfo.fr/elections/presidentielle/video-presidentielle-quand-emmanuel-macron-hurle-a-pleins-poumons-dans-son-micro_1963157.html
Gricko Posted January 1, 2017 Posted January 1, 2017 Francusko među šljivama! Bila je ranije fraza da su neki narodi sebe ispisivali iz istorije. Ovde vidimo kako jedno društvo (ili jedan njegov deo) junački srlja direktno u govna. Srećan put! Bad news... Putin wasn't on board': Charlie Hebdo magazine is branded 'inhuman' in Russia over cartoons 'mocking' Black Sea plane disasterFrench satirical magazine features cartoons about the Russian plane disaster One shows a plane going down with words 'Bad news... Putin wasn't on board' Russian defence spokesman has called cartoons 'a poorly-created abomination' Authorities say there was no explosion on board but have not ruled out terror attack By WILL STEWART IN MOSCOW FOR MAILONLINE PUBLISHED: 08:15 GMT, 29 December 2016 | UPDATED: 14:08 GMT, 29 December 2016 e-mail 1.3kshares 391 View comments Russia has accused Charlie Hebdo of 'mocking' the Black Sea plane crash after publishing 'inhuman' cartoons about the disaster. In one reference to the crash, which claimed 92 lives, the French magazine depicted a jet hurtling downwards along with words translated as: 'Bad news... Putin wasn't on board'. Some 68 members of the Alexandrov music and dance ensemble perished when the military aircraft crashed into the Black Sea on Christmas Day. The satirical magazine also published a cartoon showing a choir member from the ensemble making a wailing sound 'aaaaaa'. One caption reads: 'The repertoire of the army choir is expanding.' It comes as Russian authorities investigating the crash said there was no explosion on board - but that they had not ruled out a 'terrorist act' as the cause. +13 +13 Russia has accused satirical French magazine Charlie Hebdo of 'mocking' the Black Sea plane crash after publishing 'inhuman' cartoons about the disaster +13 A third image shows bodies sinking in the sea with the caption: 'The Red Army conquers a new public'
vememah Posted January 1, 2017 Posted January 1, 2017 Francusko među šljivama! Bila je ranije fraza da su neki narodi sebe ispisivali iz istorije. Ovde vidimo kako jedno društvo (ili jedan njegov deo) junački srlja direktno u govna. Srećan put! Naslovnica posle 11. septembra: "Bez ruku"
Roger Sanchez Posted January 2, 2017 Posted January 2, 2017 To ne važi, samo je Rusija grickova Svetinja. Trebamo samo raspraviti treba li Francusku samo preorati ili brazdu i posoliti da se taj nepočin zatre kako treba.
Tribun_Populi Posted January 2, 2017 Posted January 2, 2017 Bauk kursadžizma kruži Evropom. via CZ-M53 TT
namenski Posted January 2, 2017 Posted January 2, 2017 To ne važi, samo je Rusija grickova Svetinja. Trebamo samo raspraviti treba li Francusku samo preorati ili brazdu i posoliti da se taj nepočin zatre kako treba. Meni se crveno pali momentalno na ovakve odbrane zapadnihtm vrednosti. Ziv nisam
vememah Posted January 2, 2017 Posted January 2, 2017 (edited) Bauk kursadžizma kruži Evropom. Eto Francuskom kruži ko zna koliko decenija, podsećam da je reč o izdanju koje je preimenovano nakon zabrane prethodnog zbog sprdanja sa tek umrlim De Golom. In November 1970, following the death of Charles de Gaulle at his home in Colombey-les-Deux-Églises, the weekly Hara-Kiri Hebdo bore the headline « Bal tragique à Colombey : 1 mort » (Eng: "Tragic ball in Colombey: 1 death").By way of contradistinction, the choice of the title refers to the far greater loss of life the same month: a fire at a discothèque in which 146 people died. The government felt this editorial choice was an offence of lèse-majesté against the deceased President and its then minister of the interior Raymond Marcellin ordered an immediate and permanent ban on publicity and on sale to minors. Charlie Hebdo was started immediately afterwards. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hara-Kiri_(magazine) Dakle, teza da francusko društvo "srlja u govna" zato što neko, kad mu je zatrebalo, izvadio par politički nekorektnih karikatura iz Šarli ebdoa (u njemu jedva da i postoje drugačije), nema veze s realnošću jer oni ljudi jednostavno imaju višedecenijski kontinuitet u izazivanju zgražavanja javnosti, u šta je svako ko je prelistao neko izdanje tog lista uz makar i osnovno razumevanje francuskog mogao da se uveri. Edited January 2, 2017 by vememah
3opge Posted January 2, 2017 Posted January 2, 2017 meni je mnogo zanimljivije saznati nesto vise o tome ko su ti koji "citaju" to govno i uzivaju u daleko najbednijem humoru koji sam imao prilike da vidim u jednom casopisu.
braca Posted January 2, 2017 Posted January 2, 2017 (edited) Citam ja, neredovno doduse, i mogi ti reci (a i ostalima koji se zgrazavaju) da pojma nemate... nije svaki humor za svakog P.S. podsecate me na one pakistance koji se poubijase kad su prosli put objavili neku "neprikladnu" karikaturu... Ne svidja vam se? Ne morate da citate ni da kupujete, i gotova prica. Zgrazavajte se u zvoja 4 zida. Edited January 2, 2017 by braca
3opge Posted January 2, 2017 Posted January 2, 2017 Citam ja, neredovno doduse, i mogi ti reci (a i ostalima koji se zgrazavaju) da pojma nemate... nije svaki humor za svakog priznajem da ja zaista ne mogu da doprem u te dubine duha. ali me ne cudi da ti "citas".
namenski Posted January 2, 2017 Posted January 2, 2017 meni je mnogo zanimljivije saznati nesto vise o tome ko su ti koji "citaju" to govno i uzivaju u daleko najbednijem humoru koji sam imao prilike da vidim u jednom casopisu. Prosto, oni koji posto-poto hoce da ostanu na linijitm, kao bajagi provokacija, kao bajagi nista PC, kao bajagi sprdamo se sa svim i svacim, nema zasticenih vrsta... Neduhovito, los crtez - ali to vec spada u takozvane ukusetm, i iznad svega - neukusno i to bljutavo neukusno. Jos je veci kurton poredjenje naslovne stranice povodom 11. septembra koja je - u poredjenju sa taze izginulim Rusima - em kudikamo manje eksplicitna, em komentarise 1 dogadjaj koji ima politicku konotaciju pa, kao takav, dopusta komentare od zgrazanja do podrske, kako ko voli jer je, uostalom, politika u pitanju. Ali sprdati se, i to ekstremno neduhovito, sa zrtvama avionske katastrofe, je jebemliga...
3opge Posted January 2, 2017 Posted January 2, 2017 Citam ja, neredovno doduse, i mogi ti reci (a i ostalima koji se zgrazavaju) da pojma nemate... nije svaki humor za svakog P.S. podsecate me na one pakistance koji se poubijase kad su prosli put objavili neku "neprikladnu" karikaturu... Ne svidja vam se? Ne morate da citate ni da kupujete, i gotova prica. Zgrazavajte se u zvoja 4 zida. @edit aha, ti ces da mi kazes.
namenski Posted January 2, 2017 Posted January 2, 2017 Zanimljiv komentar... politika kazes? Da, zasto?
namenski Posted January 2, 2017 Posted January 2, 2017 Zanimljivo vidjenje po kome je terorizam puka politika. Ti si ili u lovutm ili nisi pazljivo citao, mada doduse postoji i treca mogucnost, dakle: jasno i glasno i svima razumljivo sam, komentarisuci pojedine prikaze Ebdoa, postavio razliku izmedju komentara na 11. septembar koji - ma sta ko od nas pojedinacno mislio - ima politicke konotacije i kao takav dozvoljava da se prema dogadjaju odredjuje - od podrske, do osude. Isto kao sto je dozvoljeno/pozeljno sprdati se sa Muhamedom odnosno politizacijom religije i odredjivati se prema tome u skladu sa svojim opredeljenjima/stavovima. Pritom moram da ti skrenem paznju da nista, ama bas nista, sto sam napisao ne odrazava moj stav, osim naravno (loseg) misljenja o onome sto Ebdo radi i kako radi. Ali - sprdati se sa zrtvama avionske katastrofe je isto kao sprdati se sa zrtvama poplave, zemljotresa, pozara, taj rad. I, jos nesto, vrlo vazno: terorizam jeste (i) politika. Ono puka si dodao ti iz samo tebi znanih razloga pa bih te zamolio da to - kad su moji postovi u pitanju - vise ne radis.
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