koksy Posted August 22, 2015 Posted August 22, 2015 може бити, само што је овај хактивизам потенцијално изазвао већу штету него што је спречио, јер су сви корисници стрпани у исти кош - побиј све па нек их бог разврста рад bog će nekima licimurima oprostiti. "Tražio sam oprost od Boga i on mi je oprostio, tako da sam potpuno čist od grijeha", rekao je
Eraserhead Posted August 22, 2015 Posted August 22, 2015 (edited) ocigledno neki hendikepirani overweight јебачи kad im trebaju internets za hookupovanje - tipu fali desna noga iz iraka a ribi obe sise Ovde je vrlo tesko naci ljude koji ne koriste match, tinder, ok cupid, coffee meets bagel ili neki drugi servis. Nisu hendikepirani, nista im ne fali. Jednostavno olaksava stvari. Edited August 22, 2015 by Eraserhead
Krošek Posted August 22, 2015 Posted August 22, 2015 intervju sa hakerima (motherboard.vice.com): For the past week, international media has reported on the hack of extramarital site Ashley Madison and its parent company Avid Life Media, which has affected potentially tens of millions of site users, as well as spewed the alleged source code of the company’s products onto the dark web.The hackers behind the breach, who call themselves The Impact Team, first released snippets of the data back in July. After nearly 30 days, they then dumped 10GB of customer information, shortly followed by another 20GB of internal data. Minutes ago, the hackers also posted a third data dump.Motherboard was given a contact email address for The Impact Team by an intermediary. After reaching out, the hackers replied with a message signed with the same PGP key posted with the Ashley Madison dumps."We didn't blackmail users. Avid Life Media blackmailed them"The Impact Team only agreed to answer questions via email. The following is a short Q&A with them, edited lightly for clarity.MOTHERBOARD: How did you hack Avid Life Media? Was it hard?The Impact Team: We worked hard to make fully undetectable attack, then got in and found nothing to bypass.What was their security like?Bad. Nobody was watching. No security. Only thing was segmented network. You could use Pass1234 from the internet to VPN to root on all servers.When did you start hacking them? Years ago?A long time ago. [Note: in a README file in the first data dump, the hackers wrote that they had been collecting information from the company "over the past few years."]What other data from Avid Life Media do you have?300GB of employee emails and docs from internal network. Tens of thousands of Ashley Madison user pictures. Some Ashley Madison user chats and messages. 1/3 of pictures are dick pictures and we won't dump. Not dumping most employee emails either. Maybe other executives.Why did you release the dumps in chunks, rather than bit by bit?Is our Eng[l]ish bad? This was always the plan. Our first release had one sample dump of 2700 transactions. One from 2008-03-21...2015-06-28. One per day. Next was everything. Easier that way.What do you think about Avid Life Media's (and CEO Noel Biderman's) reaction?They make $100,000,000 in fraud a year. Not very surprised they didn't shut down. Maybe lawyers can shut them down now. They sound like politicians, cannot stop lying. They said they don't store CC [credit card information]. Sure, they don't store email either, they just log in every day to server and read. They had password to CC processor. We dumped from CC processor.[update: when asked to clarify, The Impact Team sent the following.]They have payment processors. The payment processors store most of the credit card number and billing address. Like how gmail stores their email. They can log in and look up transactions.What were your motivations for the hack?We were in Avid Life Media a long time to understand and get everything. Finally we watched Ashley Madison signups growing and human trafficking on the sites. Everyone is saying 37 million! Blackmail users! We didn't blackmail users. Avid Life Media blackmailed them. But any hacking team could have. We did it to stop the next 60 million. Avid Life Media is like a drug dealer abusing addicts.Is evidence that 'Full Delete' does not work included in the dumps?Yes. Many accounts and identities in there.How experienced are the hackers in The Impact Team?Very.Will The Impact Team be hacking any other sites in the future? If so, what targets or sort of targets do you have in mind?Not just sites. Any companies that make 100s of millions profiting off pain of others, secrets, and lies. Maybe corrupt politicians. If we do, it will be a long time, but it will be total.
Eraserhead Posted August 22, 2015 Posted August 22, 2015 Kao sto sam i mislio, gomila drkadzija ubedjena u svoju pravednost.
Weenie Pooh Posted August 22, 2015 Posted August 22, 2015 Naravno da su gomila drkadžija, drugi se tim akcijama retko bave (osim u TV serijama). Lupetaju na sva usta, ali primetićeš da nigde nema nikakvog moralisanja usmerenog na korisnike-preljubnike, što se potencira kao glavna motivacija i u medijima i na ovom topiku - tretiraju ih samo kao kolateralnu štetu.
Eraserhead Posted August 22, 2015 Posted August 22, 2015 (edited) Pa da ali meni je upravo to problem. U navodnoj borbi protiv "zle korporacije" oni prave vise stete za ljude od same korporacije. Edited August 22, 2015 by Eraserhead
Weenie Pooh Posted August 22, 2015 Posted August 22, 2015 A dobro, diskutabilno je koliko će problema imati ovi sad outovani, a koliko bi sve potencijalne buduće korisnike finansijski i privatno ojadio ALM. Može da se kaže za te buduće ko ih jebe ovce šišanje itd., ali onda bi se ista logika primenjivala i na ove sad.
Caligula Posted August 22, 2015 Posted August 22, 2015 Ovde je vrlo tesko naci ljude koji ne koriste match, tinder, ok cupid, coffee meets bagel ili neki drugi servis. Nisu hendikepirani, nista im ne fali. Jednostavno olaksava stvari.
FERNOUX H Posted August 22, 2015 Posted August 22, 2015 U suštini, to je to. Samo da dodam da ovo ovde prosto vrišteći zaziva stereotip o hakerima koji ne jebu pa se svete onima koji jebu. Jes anegdotalno, ali moje iskustvo se skroz u to uklapa - svi koderi koji su se bavili i hakovanjem, demo scenom ili modovanjem koje sam znao (doduše to je bilo devedesetih) su bili psihički nezreli (što je jedino u principu ok jer su bili klinci od 16 do 22 godine) li introvertni ili prosto budale sociopatske. Ili sve to zajedno. Meni ovo smrdi na to da je neko s haxx0r skillz provalio da mu se žena jebava okolo pa je rešio da se osveti i sad to uvija u fini šlafrok morala kao opravdanje, što je klasičan klinački hakerski narativ "što niste bolje zaštitili, vi ste krivi a ne ja". Važi. Pritom, ovakvi upadi u 90% slučajeva ne zahtevaju nikakav skillz nego neke insajderske prodaje ili nepažnje zaposlenih. pa dobro već je Syme ovde pisao o tom fenomenu. Mada moram da kažem da je moje iskustvo ovde skroz suprotno, srpski hakeri se uopšte nisu uklapali u te stereotipe, bar ozbiljni koderi, ovi ostali naravno jesu. Mislim da je ovde pre reč o nekim skorašnjim trendovima u Americi/CA. Ovakvi sajtovi su goruća tema već neko vreme. Hakeri su odradili Madison samo da bi se probili na sceni, naišli su na veliki sajt sa dobrom reputacijom koji je ranjiv, a onda su sve to uvili u moralističku priču jer su znali da će ona najbolje da prođe - u medijima, među nekom ciljnom grupom itd.
Eraserhead Posted August 22, 2015 Posted August 22, 2015 (edited) @kauboj, Sta pokusavas da kazes ovom slikom? Edited August 22, 2015 by Eraserhead
Caligula Posted August 22, 2015 Posted August 22, 2015 (edited) Zar nije jasno na prvu? Svet se pretvara u kokosarnik gde se prvo mehanicki sortiraju jaja, pa pilici, pa kasnije koke. Softver ti nudi koje ces reklame da gledas i sta ce da te interesuje. Nudi ti knjizevnost bas za tebe. Nudi ti najbolje poklapanje sa osobom suprotnog (ili istog) pola. Bira ti dijetu, prodavnice u kojima ces da kupujes, raslojava te i reze nepotrebno sa tebe da bi te smestio u kockastu fijoku sa tvojim maticnim brojem na njoj. Dakle reagovao sam na ono tvoje "olaksava stvari". Koje stvari, trgovinu? Jbt, pa nisu ljudi roba (ili barem ne bi trebalo da budu). Sve sto si pobrojao je digitalno trziste kurcheva i picki, te me podsetilo na kokosinjac sa separeima. Mada, mozda sam ja okoreli romantik koji veruje da individue jos uvek postoje edit: da se razumemo, nemam nista protiv ovih servisa, samo sam stvar ilustrovao odgovarajucom fotkom Edited August 22, 2015 by Caligula
Ryan Franco Posted August 22, 2015 Posted August 22, 2015 Znači oni koji koriste Tinder su se razindividuisali? Zanimljivo stanovište.
FERNOUX H Posted August 22, 2015 Posted August 22, 2015 hehe, evo i jednog malo drugačijeg, "ne-individualističkog" pristupa (bez korišćenja kokošaka kao metafore za bilo šta) Online dating is like "caffeine-free coffee" (Zizek). In his book Éloge de l'amour, Badiou notes two website slogans: "Ayez l'amour sans le hasard!" (one can have love without the unexpected!) and another slogan promises that one can be in love without falling in love ("On peut être amoureux sans tomber amoureux!"). Love – this great irrational driver of humanity – has become an object. U tom grmu leži zec.
Caligula Posted August 22, 2015 Posted August 22, 2015 (edited) Znači oni koji koriste Tinder su se razindividuisali? Zanimljivo stanovište. Onome koji ne misli samo na sebe otkrivaju se svi oblici i stvari: u svojem kretanju on je kao voda; u svojem mirovanju on je kao ogledalo, ili kao jeka. @Fernoux, upravo to Love – this great irrational driver of humanity – has become an object. Edited August 22, 2015 by Caligula
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