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Gde je? Šta kaže?
kaze da bezbednosne snage moraju da se suzdrze od prekomerne sile itd. isto porucuje i demonstrantima. relativno ostra poruka
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pa da, bilo je neophodno da se prilagode situacijievo iz gardiana sta je rekla hilari:

We are deeply concerned about the use of violence by Egyptian police and security forces against protestors. We call on the Egyptian government to do everything in its power to restrain security forces. At the same time, protesters should also refrain from violence and express themselves peacefully."

5.14pm: Clinton also called Egypt an "important partner" in the region. But she added:

As a partner we strongly believe that the Egyptian government needs to engage immediately with the Egyptian people in implementing political, social and economic reforms.

It won't be strong enough for everyone but in diplomatic terms that was pretty strong stuff from Clinton.5.12pm: Hillary Clinton is speaking. She says the US is "deeply concerned about the use of force" against protestors. She calls on the Egyptian government to restrain security forces but also says protesters should refrain from violence.

These protests underscore that there are deep grievances within Egyptian society and the Egyptian government needs to understand that violence will not make these grievances go away.
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A taj novinar AP kaže i da su demonstranti preplavili Tahrir-plac nakon druženja s policajcima.Pretpostavljam da to znači da još nisu sazrele okolnosti za Mubarakov govor?

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pretpostavljam i ja, ako jos ima uopste zelju da ga odrzi:

Mubarak steht mit dem Rücken zur Wand - Proteste eskalieren
prev: Mubarak priteran ledjima uza zid Edited by aram
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A taj novinar AP kaže i da su demonstranti preplavili Tahrir-plac nakon druženja s policajcima.Pretpostavljam da to znači da još nisu sazrele okolnosti za Mubarakov govor?
Mislim da će njegov govor biti prolongiran za par dana i da će u njemu biti deo kada zahvaljuje demonstrantima što će sada moći da provodi više vremena sa unucima...
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Na hiljade demonstranaata napada zgradu ministarstva inostranih poslova
to je ova zgrada, u neposrednoj blizini RTS-a i Arapske lige.300565.jpg
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Menjaju i Ameri stav polako. Ovaj Hilarin govor je dosta drugaciji od onog sto smo culi do sada.
Da li? Svoj mali ekspoze je otvorila rečima da podržava vladu. To što baba Klinton osuđuje prekomernu upotrebu sile, te prekidanje komunkacionalnih kanala, ne znači apsolutno ništa. Sama činjenica da se pojavila koliko danas na TV-u više govori o ozbiljnosti situacije u kojoj se Mubarakova vlada nalazi. Edited by dux
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Da li? Svoj mali ekspoze je otvorila rečima da podržava vladu. To što baba Klinton osuđuje prekomernu upotrebu sile, te prekidanje komunkacionalnih kanala, ne znači apsolutno ništa. Šta više...sama činjenica da se pojavila koliko danas na TV-u govori o ozbiljnosti situacije u kojoj se Mubarakova vlada nalazi.
Znaci. Ne mogu da okrenu stav za 180 stepeni u jednom danu. Usledice i ostriji stavovi.
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Mislim da će njegov govor biti prolongiran za par dana i da će u njemu biti deo kada zahvaljuje demonstrantima što će sada moći da provodi više vremena sa unucima...
Kad smo kod toga, koji scenario je najverovatniji kad/ako konacno 'pobede' demonstranti? Rumunski, petooktobarski ili eventualno neki azil? Znam da niko ne zna za sigurno, ali valjda drugi mogu da pretpostave vise od mene.
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Sa foruma na kome se okupljaju expati koji zive u Kairu:"No, this is not the day the Brotherhood shows its hand.Christians have said they too are in unison with the plight of their Muslim compatriates. They are in the same struggle to oust the Mubarak regime. The M.B. are just part of the protestors. We heared Elbaradey was stopped from joining the protest as part of the opposition movement he must think he has a chance of power. I'm not sure that would meet with everyone's approval either.It's not a religeous movement for change. It is a collaboration of frustrated, angry, ordinary Egyptians who have this momentous occasion to make history and oust the oppressive government who must have known their time was up."

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