18 minutes ago, Tutankamon said:

Starmer je dobio manje glasova na izborima od Korbina...nego im je sistem takav, Torijevci nepopularni, odvukao im milione glasova Reform pride i eto ti Starmera na vlasti.

Pa ti vjeruj demokratskom procesu.

59 minutes ago, Seabass said:

Pa ti vjeruj demokratskom procesu.

4 hours ago, Seabass said:

Demokratija nije perfektan sistem, samo je najmanje loš.

Tim Allan, Keir Starmer’s director of communications, has stepped down after just five months in the job, his resignation coming a day after the prime minister’s chief of staff, Morgan McSweeney, also resigned.

Allan said in a brief statement: “I have decided to stand down to allow a new No10 team to be built. I wish the PM and his team every success.”

The departure is another blow to Starmer’s position amid a furious row about the decision to make Peter Mandelson ambassador to Washington despite his close links to the convicted child sex offender Jeffrey Epstein.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2026/feb/09/keir-starmer-director-of-communications-tim-allan-step-down

Ovo su sve dobre vijesti jer ce se konacno rascistiti ova grupa nesposobnih. Najvjerovatnije Starmer takodje ide uskoro, cim se dogovore ko bi ga mogao zamijeniti. Vjerovatno se ceka na Rayner da joj se zavrsi sudski postupak i ako to prodje okej po nju, to ce biti to.

Nece biti tu nista do majskih lokalnih izbora. Jednostavno nema ko da vodi Labour. Za Faraza sam prilicno siguran da ce da se samoubije u jednom momentu, a od Torija za sada nista.

1 hour ago, dragance said:

Nece biti tu nista do majskih lokalnih izbora. Jednostavno nema ko da vodi Labour. Za Faraza sam prilicno siguran da ce da se samoubije u jednom momentu, a od Torija za sada nista.

Streeting objavio whatsapp poruke sa Mandelsonom, kaze nisu bili bliski prijatelji. Znaci, nije se potpuno iskljucio iz moguce trke za poziciju kalifa umjesto kalifa.

1 minute ago, Seabass said:

Streeting objavio whatsapp poruke sa Mandelsonom, kaze nisu bili bliski prijatelji. Znaci, nije se potpuno iskljucio iz moguce trke za poziciju kalifa umjesto kalifa.

Nisu bili bliski prijatelji, ali završavali poruke jedni drugima “poljupcima” 😂

Streeting je mala zmija.

20 minutes ago, dragance said:

Streeting je mala zmija.

Streeting - zmiuga loma

Slusam juce LBC radio i cijeli dan se govorilo hoce li Starmer izginuti ili ce opstati i vecina koji su zvali su bili da ostane jer, stability. Sa druge strane, ovo ne jenjava i ja ne vidim kako ce sad odjednom okrenuti curak i poceti raditi stvari koje smo ocekivali da ce raditi kad se popeo na vlast, stvari kao npr sto Zack Polanski prica. Sumnjam najdublje da ima to u njemu ali ce se vuci do majskih izbora, i onda ce biti svrgnut. Mozda su se vec i dogovorili da ce da dobrovoljno ide i kad, samo da odrede ko ce ga zamijeniti; Rayner, Streeting ili neko treci, Milliband mozda?

Streeting bi bio najpogresniji od svih pogresnih izbora, najgora opcija. Starmer je manje popularan (nezasluzeno imho) od kojekakvih zlocinaca ali Streeting bi bio jos nepopularniji. Zato sam 99% siguran da ce bas njega odabrati ako bude opcija.

Zna li neko sta se predvidja za byelection Gorton Denton za 15ak dana? Jaka Labour vecina od proslih izbora, da ne trazim, oko 14k, a sad je kao trka 3 konja - Labour, Green i Farazisti.

Racunam na jak tactical voting da se sprijeci Reform ali u ciju korist? Labour ili Greens? Ako na kraju ipak uzmu Reform, Starmer bi morao da da ostavku. Ako izgubi od zelenih mozda moze jos da sepa do maja.

U Britaniji postoji veci problem od Starmera zbog Epstajna. Ionako malo, malo menjaju premijere.

Pocinju da se cuju glasovi oko monarhije u Britaniji. Traze se istage i sta su znali, precutkivali i koliko dugo. Nezvane imigrante treba vratiti na Kontitnent tj. Hamburg.

Pravo pitanje: da li neka skotska dinastija da dodje na presto ili Republika?

"Maybe this will end the monarchy": Why King Charles' statement on Epstein evidence could finish the royals

https://www.cosmopolitan.com/uk/reports/a70297472/epstein-end-monarchy/

17 minutes ago, Emerald said:

U Britaniji postoji veci problem od Starmera zbog Epstajna. Ionako malo, malo menjaju premijere.

Pocinju da se cuju glasovi oko monarhije u Britaniji. Traze se istage i sta su znali, precutkivali i koliko dugo. Nezvane imigrante treba vratiti na Kontitnent tj. Hamburg.

Pravo pitanje: da li neka skotska dinastija da dodje na presto ili Republika?

"Maybe this will end the monarchy": Why King Charles' statement on Epstein evidence could finish the royals

https://www.cosmopolitan.com/uk/reports/a70297472/epstein-end-monarchy/

A u clanku nista ne pise zasto bi njegova izjava bila kraj monarhije... koji se to glasovi cuju?

2 hours ago, Seabass said:

Zna li neko sta se predvidja za byelection Gorton Denton za 15ak dana? Jaka Labour vecina od proslih izbora, da ne trazim, oko 14k, a sad je kao trka 3 konja - Labour, Green i Farazisti.

Racunam na jak tactical voting da se sprijeci Reform ali u ciju korist? Labour ili Greens? Ako na kraju ipak uzmu Reform, Starmer bi morao da da ostavku. Ako izgubi od zelenih mozda moze jos da sepa do maja.

Date(s) conducted	Pollster	Client	Sample size	Labour	Reform	Green	Workers	Cons	Lib Dem	Other	Lead
25–27 Jan 2026	Find Out Now[110]	Betterworld Ltd	143[c]	33%	36%	21%	–	8%	3%	0%	3
4 Jul 2024	2024 general election			50.8%	14.1%	13.2%	10.3%	7.9%	3.8%	N/A	36.7

With Andy Burnham as the Labour candidate

Date(s) conducted	Pollster	Client	Sample size	Labour (Burnham)	Reform	Green	Workers	Cons	Lib Dem	Other	Lead
25–27 Jan 2026	Find Out Now[110]	Betterworld Ltd	143[d]	53%	30%	8%	–	7%	2%	0%	23
4 Jul 2024	2024 general election			50.8%	14.1%	13.2%	10.3%	7.9%	3.8%	N/A	36.7

Labour Party

Andy Burnham's proposed candidacy

Following media and public speculation, Andy Burnham, the incumbent mayor of Greater Manchester and former MP for Leigh, requested approval to stand as Labour's candidate on 24 January.^[28] As a sitting directly elected mayor, the party's rules required him to seek the approval of the party's National Executive Committee (NEC) before putting himself forward for selection as a parliamentary candidate. The NEC met on 25 January and voted 8–1 against Burnham's candidacy.^[29] In the vote, NEC Chair and Home Secretary Shabana Mahmood abstained, Prime Minister Keir Starmer voted against, and party Deputy Leader Lucy Powell voted for allowing Burnham to stand.^[29] Burnham expressed his disappointment and concern about the impact of the ruling for Labour in the 2026 United Kingdom local elections, the 2026 Scottish Parliament election and 2026 Senedd election.^[29] After the decision to block Burnham from standing as a Labour candidate, 50 Labour MPs and half a dozen Labour peers signed a letter objecting to the NEC's decision.^[30]

The by-election had been framed by the media as a route for Burnham to return to Westminster and potentially challenge Starmer for the Labour leadership.^[31][32] Labour figures were reported to be concerned that Burnham's candidacy would trigger a by-election for the position of mayor, which would be expensive and politically risky for the party: MP Graham Stringer expressed his reluctance to let Reform UK "have a go" at winning the mayoralty.^[31] Burnham's application to stand in the by-election was supported by some senior Labour figures, including former deputy prime minister Angela Rayner, Mayor of London Sadiq Khan, Powell, and Energy Secretary Ed Miliband.^[33][34] Labour sources also stated concerns to the BBC about the prospect of a "divisive campaign".^[29] Andrea Egan, the general secretary of the Unison trade union, warned against any potential "stitch-up" in Labour's selection process.^[35] Mainstream, a group associated with Burnham,^[36] launched a petition to Mahmood calling for a "fair, democratic and open selection". Momentum also expressed support for Burnham's candidacy.^[37]

21 minutes ago, Tutankamon said:

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Hm, iako ne izgleda nevjerovatno, ni pollster ni klient nisu reputabilni. Polster je rated D, a Betterworld Ltd je neka mikro kompanija vlasnistvo nekog Henry Cole Tinsley koji je izgleda provesionalni aktivista koji posjeduje 10ak slicnih kompanijica. Mrzi me da dalje kopam da vidim koja mu je agenda tako da nema veze.

Postoje li neki ozbiljniji podaci?

Nadjoh neki Graunov clanak od nedelje, izmedju ostalog kaze:

Prof Robert Ford, of the University of Manchester, said the key to understanding this byelection was that for every vote on the Farage-friendly Denton side, there were two votes on the larger, more diverse and left-leaning Manchester side.

Laburisti definitivno u panici jer im Greens cijepaju glasove ali ako se pred byelection pokaze da imaju vecu sansu od zelenih, tactical vote bi ih mogao provuci preko crte.

Edit: ako radi Zelenih dobiju Farazisti, onda ce se negativno odraziti na Polanskog i zelene. Neka je malo zakuhao ali ako mu ankete ne budu naklonjene dva-tri dana pred izbore, trebao bi povuci kandidatkinju i pustiti Laburiste.

Edited February 10Feb 10 by Seabass

Kako god se lešinari iživljavali, kao i oni « који се брину о демократији, иако су сигурно промашили развод једне странке у Србији - но то је нека друга прича », Labour je i dalje na vrhu; Reform je za sada golo govno, a Conservatives ni blizu vlasti.

18 hours ago, jms_uk said:

A u clanku nista ne pise zasto bi njegova izjava bila kraj monarhije... koji se to glasovi cuju?

Zato sto su se ugnjetene mase digle

Napisao sam da se cuju glasovi i stavio sam jedan. Nisam ja stavio taj naslov.

Ono sto je meni zanimljivo kako neki "levicari" osecaju potrebu da brane monarhiju u Britaniji, koja je ogrezla duboko u razne afere od Dajane do Epstajna, da ne ulazimo u istoriju, poput Irske. Ovo se ne odnosi na tebe jms_uk.