Politika u UK

[Lezilebovich]

 

Policija je objavila ime i prezime muškarca osumnjičenog da je kombijem naletio na vernike ispred džamije u Londonu. Reč je o Darenu Ozbornu (47), ocu četvoro dece iz Kardifa u Velsu.

Jedna osoba je poginula, a 10 povrijeđeno u incidentu koji se dogodio u blizini džamije na severu Londona. Istraga se vodi kao teroristički čin, a osumnjičeni će biti podvrgnut testu mentalnog zdravlja.

Imam džamije Muhamed Kozba je za Anadoliju rekao kako je jasno da su meta napada bili vernici koji su se iz džamije vraćali svojim kućama.

 

ako je "naš" terorista onda je lud, ako je njihov onda je to stvar vere ?

[Roger Sanchez]

ako je "naš" terorista onda je lud, ako je njihov onda je to stvar vere ?

Pa nije baš svetoisto, u većini terorističkih napada islamske provenijencije postoji taj element zavjere kojeg ovdje (zasad) nema, izgleda da je u okrilju ummata statistički značajno lakše okupiti nekoliko inteligentnih luđaka koji metodički i zajednički planiraju luđački akt.

[FERNOUX H]

ako je "naš" terorista onda je lud, ako je njihov onda je to stvar vere ?

 

Pa ovaj se nije pozivao na hrišćanstvo, dok islamisti svoje napade zaista vrše u ime islama, ne vidim šta te toliko zaprepašćuje.

 

Imaju smisla ovakva testiranja jer je većina belih terorista imala neki problem sa izolacijom, neprilagođenošću itd. Ako koristi istrazi, zašto da ne.

Edited June 20, 2017 by FERNOUX H

[Utvara]

 

Daj nama Bože ovakve predstavnike u Parlamentu.

[MancMellow]

I tako...

 

 

 

DUP MPs threaten to walk away from deal to prop up Theresa May's minority Government on eve of Queen's Speech

 

 Christopher Hope, chief political correspondent  Steven Swinford, deputy political editor 

20 JUNE 2017 • 8:34PM

 

The Democratic Unionist Party last night threatened to walk away from a deal to prop up the minority Conservative Government on the eve of the Queen’s Speech. Senior DUP sources in Belfast said the Conservatives had to give “greater focus to discussions” about a confidence and supply deal which Theresa May needs to govern. Last night there was speculation that the Conservatives could even open talks with the Liberal Democrats’ 12 MPs about supporting the Tory Government if the DUP talks fail. The news is a significant blow to the authority of Mrs May who said hours after the election that she would seek a deal with the DUP’s 10 Westminster MPs after she failed to win a majority of MPs in the House of Commons.Number 10 then announced that a deal had been done 48 hours after the election, only to have to retract the statement the following day.  Since then talks have continued without success.

 

The Daily Telegraph understands the DUP is prepared to walk away from a formal deal with the Government entirely and decide whether to back the Tories on a "case by case" basis. The DUP is particularly concerned about the Government's policies on austerity and welfare and its MPs are even prepared to back Labour amendments on some issues.The party believes that Downing Street's approach to what should have been a relatively simple set of negotiations has been "chaotic". A DUP source told The Daily Telegraph: "The Conservatives needs to give greater focus to discussions. DUP can't be taken for granted. 

 

“Negotiations haven't proceeded in the way that we would have expected.” Westminster sources insisted that it was overwhelmingly likely that a deal would be signed, most probably on Thursday. Some speculated that the comments from the DUP were designed to damp down speculation about the scale of the investment going to Northern Ireland as a result of any agreement. The Telegraph has disclosed how talks have centred on cuts in Air Passenger Duty for airports in Northern Ireland and an increase in defence spending. DUP insiders in Belfast said the relations had soured because of “backbiting from Tory backbenchers” against their party had stiffened their resolve to “dig in.” One said: “They attempted to bounce us into a deal on Saturday night and then we had the backbenchers saying that we were unsavoury.

 

“There is also a feeling within the DUP that if we can get extra spending in Northern Ireland in, say, the local NHS to bring down waiting lists here, then there would be a barrage of complaints from English, Scottish and Welsh Tories over the special treatment our part of the UK was receiving. “Conservative high command ought to stop their backbenchers whinging about the DUP and show our party some respect.” Westminster sources said there had been informal conversations with the Liberal Democrats’ whips office about a confidence and supply deal in case the agreement with the DUP falls through. The source said the talks with the LibDems could be “game playing by the Tories to put pressure on people in Belfast”. But the Tories were apparently concerned about the “calibre” of unionist MPs amid concerns that some of them would not turn up for key votes. The source said: “The Government chief whip’s office is worried about the calibre of DUP MPs – unionist MPs don’t turn up.” The Lib Dem MPs were more attuned to the disciplines of government after their experience running  the Coalition with the Conservatives.

 

One Tory insider said: “We always knew the Unionists were stupid but we thought they were at least hungry. “It’s taken real will power to throw away the chance in front of them. We’re amazed. Baffled. And there are two more Liberals anyway.” LibDem sources denied any talks had taken place and insisted that no deal could be done by current leader Tim Farron, who ruled them out during the election campaign. However they admitted that any future leader, such as Sir Vince Cable, who announced he was standing on Tuesday, would not be bound by any commitments made by Mr Farron. A Conservative source said tonight: "Talks are ongoing with the DUP and we continue to work towards a confidence and supply arrangement. "As we have said, both parties are committed to strengthening the Union, combating terrorism, delivering Brexit and delivering prosperity across the whole United Kingdom. "While our discussions continue it is important the Government gets on with its business.

 

"That is why we are putting forward a Queen's Speech which the whole House of Commons can get behind: securing a Brexit deal that works for every part of our country, strengthening our economy, making our society fairer, and keeping our country safe."

 

 

 

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/06/20/dup-mps-threaten-walk-away-deal-prop-theresa-mays-minority-government/

Edited June 20, 2017 by MancMellow

[Takeshi]

kad je dup na tapetu, taman da izreklamiram frenki bojla jos jednom:

 

[Roger Sanchez]

The Sun Rupert sez:

 

[bosque]

zeznuto bato, pozara se najvise plasim

 

BBC hail Serb hero of London tower blaze

[bosque]

a evo i teksta koji budi nadu i povlaci paralelu sa kontekstom u srbalja

 

Mi gorimo, oni profitiraju!

[jms_uk]

Edited June 22, 2017 by jms_uk

[jms_uk]

https://www.facebook.com/scientistsforeu/videos/860701577365186

[Budja]

 

 

Corbyn chants, T-shirts and sculptures: Jeremania hits Glastonbury

Festival awaits appearance by Labour leader, who cancelled speech last year in aftermath of Brexit vote

[Roger Sanchez]

[FERNOUX H]

Hillsborough disaster: six people, including David Duckenfield, charged

Officer in charge of match charged with manslaughter and ex-chief constable Sir Norman Bettison charged with misconduct

 

 

Six people, including two former senior police officers, have been charged with criminal offences over the 96 deaths in the Hillsborough disaster and the alleged police cover-up that followed.

 

David Duckenfield, the South Yorkshire officer who was in command of policing at the FA Cup semi-final between Liverpool and Nottingham Forest in 1989, has been charged with the manslaughter of 95 people.

 

The 96th, Tony Bland, died four years later after his life support was switched off; a manslaughter charge cannot be brought in his case because his death came more than a year and a day after his injuries were sustained.

 

Sue Hemming, the Crown Prosecution Service head of special crime and counter-terrorism, said the CPS would allege that Duckenfield’s failure to take personal responsibility on the day was “extraordinarily bad and contributed substantially to the deaths of each of those 96 people who so tragically and unnecessarily lost their lives”.

 

Sir Norman Bettison, the former chief constable of Merseyside and West Yorkshire police, who was an inspector in the South Yorkshire force at the time of the disaster, has been charged with four counts of misconduct in a public office.

 

Of those charges, Hemming said Bettison allegedly told lies about his involvement in the disaster. “Given his role as a senior police officer, we will ask the jury to find that this was misconduct of such a degree as to amount to an abuse of the public’s trust in the office holder,” she said.

 

Graham Mackrell, the Sheffield Wednesday chief executive and officially designated safety officer for the Hillsborough stadium, has also been charged with breaching the terms of the ground’s safety certificate and failing to take reasonable care under the Health and Safety at Work Act.

 

The three other men are all charged with doing acts with intent to pervert the course of justice, for the process by which statements made by South Yorkshire police officers on duty at Hillsborough were subsequently reviewed and changed.

 

Donald Denton, the South Yorkshire police chief superintendent who operated in a senior role in that process, his deputy, chief inspector Alan Foster, and the then South Yorkshire police solicitor, Peter Metcalf, have all been charged.

 

The charges are the latest significant landmark in a 28-year campaign for accountability fought since the disaster by the families of the 96 people who died, survivors of the crush and the wider Liverpool and football supporting communities.

 

Trevor Hicks, president of the Hillsborough Family Support Group whose teenage daughters Sarah and Vicki were killed, said that families had wanted more people to be charged but that the news was a vital step forward.

 

“If I’m honest I didn’t think we would get to this day, no,” he said. “We didn’t think we would. This is a success for society at large. There are no winners but it sends a message out that nobody is above the law. After Grenfell Tower and others, the message is ‘watch out, families will come after you.’”

 

Margaret Aspinall, whose 18-year-old son James was killed, said she felt the families had turned a corner. “The message this sends is ‘never give up. Carry on fighting’. This should never happen again. No one should go through this to get to the truth. That’s the legacy of this.”

 

Of the decision to charge, Hemming said: “Following our careful review of the evidence, in accordance with the code for crown prosecutors, I have decided that there is sufficient evidence to charge six individuals with criminal offences.

 

“Criminal proceedings have now commenced and the defendants have a right to a fair trial. It is extremely important that there should be no reporting, commentary or sharing of information online which could in any way prejudice these proceedings.”

 

She said that in order to bring the case against Duckenfield, the CPS will have to make a court application for a removal of the legal bar on further prosecutions imposed by the judge who heard the private prosecution brought by the families themselves in 1999. “We will be applying to a high court judge to lift the ‘stay’ and order that the case can proceed,” Hemming said.

 

Bettison is accused of having lied about his own involvement within South Yorkshire police after the disaster, including describing his role as “peripheral” to Sir David O’Dowd, then chief inspector of constabulary, when he applied to be the chief constable of Merseyside police in 1998.

 

Bettison is also charged with lying in a subsequent statement to the Merseyside police authority that he had “never attempted to shift blame onto the shoulders of Liverpool supporters”. The two further charges allege that he lied in September 2012, after the publication of the Hillsborough independent panel report, when he issued press releases saying he had never suggested Liverpool supporters’ behaviour caused the disaster, and had never “besmirched” supporters.

 

Bettison said he was “disappointed to be charged” and would “vigorously defend” his innocence. “The charge is not in relation to my actions around the time of the disaster but in relation to comments I made years afterwards. I will vigorously defend my innocence as I have been doing for nearly five years.

 

“I will not be making any further statement so as not to prejudice any future proceedings.”

 

The CPS also considered bringing charges against Sheffield Wednesday football club, the South Yorkshire metropolitan ambulance service and the Football Association (FA). Hemming said Sheffield Wednesday could not face charges as a legal entity as it “only now exists on paper”. She added there were “no directors or others listed who form the company and therefore no one who can give instructions to answer any criminal charge or enter a plea”.

 

There was insufficient evidence to prosecute senior staff from the ambulance service, she said. There was also insufficient evidence to bring a case against the FA, which was considered for breaches of health and safety legislation and the Safety of Sports Grounds Act. Hemming said “there was not a realistic prospect of a conviction against them”.

 

Families of those who died gathered at Parr Hall, a venue in Warrington, near Liverpool, to hear the news directly from representatives of the CPS.

 

Family members who were given the news personally in a meeting with Hemming said there was a feeling of relief that charges had been brought. Leo Fallon, brother-in-law of Andrew Sefton, who was 23 when he was killed at Hillsborough, said it was gratifying to see some charges brought but said it had been too long to wait until 28 years after Andrew’s death.

 

He said: “There is a sense of relief among families, and we have to wait and see what the outcome will be. But our feeling is it has taken far too long; if it had been dealt with properly at the time, it would have damaged people less, and cost the public less.”

 

Barry Devonside, whose son Christopher, then 18, died in the lethal crush on the Leppings Lane terrace, said: “Fortunately the families have behaved with the utmost dignity. In my mind we had a son – and I don’t want to make stupid comments – but he was a perfect son in every way. He had respect for himself, and for his mum and dad, and for the public.”

 

Last April the jury, which heard new inquests into the deaths, determined following two years of evidence that the 96 people had been unlawfully killed, and that the conduct of Liverpool supporters who attended the match did not contribute to the dangerous situation.

 

In January, the two new criminal investigations into the disaster and South Yorkshire police conduct afterwards announced that they had sent files of evidence to the CPS on 23 individuals and organisations.

 

Lawyers who represented 22 of the families at the inquests said: “The [families] remain keen to see the criminal process properly pursued for those who have been charged and given that the rights of the defendants should be respected they do not intend to indulge in speculation about the outcome of criminal trials.

 

“They do however hope that the memories of their loved ones and the integrity of the fans who attended Hillsborough will be respected during the process.”

 

The defendants, other than Duckenfield, will appear at Warrington magistrates court on 9 August.

http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2017/jun/28/hillsborough-six-people-including-two-senior-police-officers-charged

[jms_uk]

U danu kad je u Srbiji izglasana vlada, i u Vestminsteru je prosao kraljicin govor:

 

The minority Conservative government has survived its first major Parliamentary test after its Queen's Speech cleared the House of Commons.

MPs voted in favour of the package of legislation - which was stripped back after the Tories lost their majority - by 323 to 309.

 

The Democratic Unionist Party's 10 MPs had agreed to support the measures as part of a deal with the Tories.