Evropski superklubovi i njihova superliga

[dragance]

Ma ko će da ih natera da plate 300 miliona? Madridski privredni sud??  

[Milosh76]

24 minutes ago, Nikodije said:

Da li je Kokeza i dalje u komisijama koje vrše alokaciju novčanih sredstava ili će mafoiozi da raspodele ovih 7 milijardi bez njega? 

Nije, izbacili ga

[Nikodije]

11 minutes ago, dragance said:

Ma ko će da ih natera da plate 300 miliona? Madridski privredni sud??  

 

Što da ne, uefa digne kredit 7 milijardi, da klubovima, svaki od ovih klubova vrati dug™ od 300 miliona, jp morgan im vrati 280 i svi zadovoljni. 

[dragance]

Pa onda naprave isto za 4-5 godina i u krug. Dok UEFA moze da dize kredite. Money for nothing and chicks for free.

[vememah]

 

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Money from Saudi Arabia, a phone call from the Kremlin

 

It was by no means only the outcry of football fans that brought down the Super League - but also major world politics. Nevertheless, the idea of a league of their own remains attractive for the top clubs.

By Freddie Röckenhaus

If Aleksander Ceferin, this week's very full-throated president of European governing body Uefa, has his way, football has been saved in recent days from the worst onslaught of capitalism ever. "A few people are trying to kill the beautiful game," the former criminal lawyer lashed out at the initiators of the recently founded Super League at the beginning of the week, "dividends are more important to them than passion", fans are "just consumers". Ceferin sounded like the avenger of the disenfranchised football people, and one could have thought that the Uefa boss had rediscovered a secret Karl Marx library.

When Chelsea FC, owned by Russian oligarch and multi-billionaire Roman Abramovich since 2003, announced its exit from the Super League private circle on Tuesday evening, a few hundred fan demonstrators cheered their club boss' backdown. It was as if their street demonstration in Chelsea, one of the most expensive districts of London's expensive financial metropolis, had forced the owner to rethink. The next day, Liverpool FC owner John W. Henry also apologised to his club's supporters: "I heard you!" And at Manchester United, the resignation of long-time manager Ed Woodward was hastily announced, and he was thus blamed for the misstep. This is how commercial football hypocritically extricated itself from its Super League days.

In fact, it is becoming more and more apparent that the quick turnaround also had to do with fan protests, but only to a limited extent. Especially in England, the land of hopelessly overpriced tickets that real fans can only afford once in a blue moon, people have not been paying much attention to the opinion of hardcore supporters for years. In fact, quite different forces seem to have stopped the hastily publicised Superliga construct for now. For now, at least that's what Real Madrid's president Florentino Pérez said on Spanish television. Only "for now". The project is only in standby mode. And that's right: from a purely legal point of view, none of the twelve founding clubs has withdrawn from the consortium.

But Chelsea owner Roman Abramovich is said to have received an unmistakable message from home, from the Kremlin in Moscow, on Monday that the Super League was not in the interests of the fatherland. Gazprom, Russia's largest corporation, predominantly state-owned, is the main sponsor of the Uefa Champions League - and should remain so. In the summer, Saint Petersburg will host matches of the Uefa European Championship, and in the summer of 2022 the final of the Champions League is planned there. Zenit Saint Petersburg, a kind of Bayern Munich of Russia, is practically Gazprom's factory team; the club wants to keep access to the Champions League, which is at least halfway open. So here - and not only here - big world politics suddenly played in: Abramovich has no desire to stress with President Putin. He just wants to have fun.

It is estimated that the group of twelve has already spent 50 million euros on start-up costs.
Manchester City, the second drop-out, is said to have received a call from Abu Dhabi. The Abu Dhabi United Group owns the club. Apparently, they quickly found out that the billions for the Super League were not really coming from the New York bank JP Morgan, but that the initial investment was actually coming from Saudi Arabia. Abu Dhabi is not exactly at enmity with the rulers in Riyadh, as its neighbours from Qatar are, but it attaches importance to an emphatically liberal, cosmopolitan image and therefore does not want to be caught in the same back room with Saudi Arabia. Ferran Sorriano, City's CEO, and the powerful coach-manager Pep Guardiola are also said to have been rather sceptical from the start.

After the - also politically motivated - exits of Chelsea and City, it was then clear that the pressure on the remaining phalanx of other Premier League clubs was becoming too great. The British government, otherwise always particularly at cross purposes with President Putin and the Kremlin, also built up a threatening backdrop. A weakening of the Premier League, the special pride of Brexit England, did not suit Boris Johnson and his people. Drastic repression was used. Even the non-English owners of the clubs then found it too confusing.

From the outset, Paris Saint-Germain was not among the renegades - because PSG finances itself with the millions from Qatar. PSG president Nasser Al-Khelaifi wanted nothing to do with the Saudi-controlled money from JP Morgan. His country had to live with a blockade by Saudi Arabia because of accusations of supporting terrorist Islamism.

Why is the Super League project not buried yet? Insiders estimate that the group of twelve has already shelled out start-up costs of around 50 million euros, for example for the fancy marketing concept or for the legal fees for the 179-page contract for the rival league. Real Madrid's boss Pérez, a billionaire building contractor in civilian life, does not want to be left holding the bag. On Spanish television on Wednesday, he complained that Real Madrid needed to earn 900 million euros per season to be in the black at all, but currently had 300 million euros less - partly due to Corona. That can be converted into a corresponding annual loss, if you believe Pérez's figures.

The idea of a closed league remains fundamentally attractive for all top clubs
Last year, the Times of London reported that Pérez had been awarded the contract to build the Quiddiya entertainment centre planned in Saudi Arabia for 6.5 billion euros, a kind of Las Vegas but for Muslim-friendly entertainment. As a side effect, 150 million euros had been offered to Real - for the promotionally effective appearance of four players from the star squad. Real's shirt sponsor is already the airline Emirates from the Gulf state of Dubai, for the European record sum of 69 million euros. Allegedly, Pérez's Saudi Arabian business contacts were also an entry point for the now founded Super League. The boss of which, of course, is also Florentino Pérez.

Perez has already announced that the other clubs will not be able to leave the new league so easily. This may be the incipient senile stubbornness of a 74-year-old, but in principle the idea of a closed league with more planning security remains attractive for all concerned. Many of the twelve (supposedly) top clubs are groaning under losses and debts. Despite all the millions they have reliably earned in the Champions League for years.

Tottenham Hotspur is said to have buried around 1.2 billion euros in a new stadium, Manchester United has been carrying around 650 million euros in old debts for years, which the Glazer family of owners simply merged into United immediately after buying the club. Barcelona's debts have been out of control for several years. United and Barça have apparently been trying to pay off large transfer deals in instalments for years. And the rich from the Superliga are in reality only as rich as their owners and financiers want them to be.

And Uefa? It was before President Ceferin's time, but from 2002 onwards the European federation has made a good living from making the permanent guests in the Champions League richer and richer. It almost seems like Baron Frankenstein's laboratory, wondering why his assembled monsters are not quite right in the head, break out of the laboratory and behave like monsters.

The word from Switzerland is that Uefa wants to strike back. Team AG, the Uefa subsidiary that for years has negotiated the lucrative contracts from which the Champions League millions come, is said to be negotiating an alternative deal with the London investment firm Centricus Assets. There, as much as six billion euros in money is said to be possible, i.e. considerably more than the JP Morgan sum rumoured for the Super League. Of course, that would be a completely different deal, but once again the big clubs would get the lion's share. Perhaps the idea of giving football back to the people was not that serious after all.

The downer could be that a good part of the money from Centricus, headed by long-time Deutsche Bank investment banker Nizar Al-Bassam, allegedly comes from Saudi Arabia again. However, then purified by flowing through Uefa. So there is no need to worry about Ceferin's convictions. Marx plays no role there, at most a little more down-to-earthness. But the accumulation of capital continues.

 

 

Ovaj engleski prevod je nađen na Tviteru, original je iza paywalla:

https://www.sueddeutsche.de/sport/super-league-politik-1.5273477?reduced=true

[gone fishing]

15 minutes ago, dragance said:

Pa onda naprave isto za 4-5 godina i u krug. Dok UEFA moze da dize kredite. Money for nothing and chicks for free.

Ma ima uefa para problem je u raspodeli

30% profita uefa mafiozi daju klubovima koji igraju u evropi a 70% raznim kokezama sirom evro-azije toj glasackoj masini koja omogucava pobedu na izborima trenutnoj ekipi koja je zabola odlicno placene poslove u nionu 

[dragance]

4 minutes ago, gone fishing said:

Ma ima uefa para problem je u raspodeli

30% profita uefa mafiozi daju klubovima koji igraju u evropi a 70% raznim kokezama sirom evro-azije toj glasackoj masini koja omogucava pobedu na izborima trenutnoj ekipi koja je zabola odlicno placene poslove u nionu 

 

To da, a onda oni pare od FIFA/UEFA koriste 10% u nesto korisno - a sebi u dzep ostalo. Igrao sam OFC kvalifikacije na Samoa ostrvu, u glavnom gradu Apia, na "stadionu" J.S. Blater  

[Nikodije]

10 minutes ago, gone fishing said:

Ma ima uefa para problem je u raspodeli

30% profita uefa mafiozi daju klubovima koji igraju u evropi a 70% raznim kokezama sirom evro-azije toj glasackoj masini koja omogucava pobedu na izborima trenutnoj ekipi koja je zabola odlicno placene poslove u nionu 

 

Pa da, sad su nekako morali da podmire i klubove pa je na relaciji Uefa - javno preduzeće Morgan - 12 klubova nastala ova kombina i ujdurma kako bi se našlo opravdanje da se podigne tih 7 milijardi kredita i namire klubovi koji su zakinuti u prethodnom periodu. A javnost se ne žali, važno da je opstao fudbal koji poznaju.

Raskrinkani su  

Edited April 24, 2021 by Nikodije

[dragance]

A, ti mislis da je to sve bio deo plana sa UEFA i "super" klubovima?

[Nikodije]

6 minutes ago, dragance said:

A, ti mislis da je to sve bio deo plana sa UEFA i "super" klubovima?

 

Ma otkud znam, ćaskamo. Kako se rasplelo smrdi mi na to. Suviše je sve ovo oko tzv Superlige bilo neozbiljno. 

Edited April 24, 2021 by Nikodije

[Lancia]

13 hours ago, levi said:

 

Ko je pravio ovo, Azem Vlasi?¿

[Cane Vukic Prebranac]

Чуј Хрвати да то праве. Ако је ико у старту против, то су они.

[villiem]

32 minutes ago, Lancia said:

Ko je pravio ovo, Azem Vlasi?¿

 

Ne treba da zurimo, ako bude nekog novca moze se pricati na temu 

[dragance]

45 minutes ago, Nikodije said:

 

Ma otkud znam, ćaskamo. Kako se rasplelo smrdi mi na to. Suviše je sve ovo oko tzv Superlige bilo neozbiljno. 

Previše je to zle krvi i borbe za kolač. A teško bi bilo i sakriti da nikad ne ispliva na površinu. Kakav bi tek to skandal bio!

[ljubicica]

 
Što da ne, uefa digne kredit 7 milijardi, da klubovima, svaki od ovih klubova vrati dug[emoji769] od 300 miliona, jp morgan im vrati 280 i svi zadovoljni. 

Ovo je sad probilo sve granice i neće moći tako doveka. Ne bi me čudilo da u jednom trenutku fudbal doživi hard reset jer će se ovim tempom samouništiti

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