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Budućnost elektroenergetskog sistema

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Uhvati me jeza svaki put kad pomislim na moguću havariju solarnih panela. Prekinut kabl, ili ne daj bože čađ iz dimnjaka koju niko nije obrisao. Bukvalno da se naježiš od mogućih posledica.

7 hours ago, brusli said:

South Australia:

1.043.514 km2

1.622.700 stanovnika

1,56 st/km2

Od toga milion i po Adelaide, otprilike kao Beograd ili dva Zagreba.

Znači 2017. prvo veliko postrojenje baterija, a 2025. 40% večernjeg pika u milionskoj metropoli izgurale baterije. Nije ni čudo što su zacrtali do 2027. da budu 100% renewable, a već sad su na 70% sunca i vetra. Biće k'o dlanom o dlan.

Strava. This is the way.

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13 hours ago, brusli said:

South Australia:

1.043.514 km2

1.622.700 stanovnika

1,56 st/km2

A to nam kaže šta tačno?

Zapadna Australija ima više nego dvostruko veću površinu (2,531,514 kvadratnih kilometara), sa oko dva miliona i devetsto šezdesset pet hiljada stanovnika, tj. gustinu naseljenosti od 1.18 stanovnika po kvadratnom kilometru (znači još manju od Južne Australije), ali joj je udeo obnovljivih izvora (sunca i vetra) u proizvodnji struje oko 18% (gas 59% i ugalj 28%). I Kvinslend je značajno veći po površinii od Južne Australije (1,727,000 kvadratnih kilometara), doduše ima više stanovnika od Južne Australije i veću gustinu naseljenosti (strašnih 3.21 po kvadratnom kiilometru), ali i tu je stanovništvoo koncentrisano na Brizbejn i Zlatnu Obalu na jug ka NSW. Kakogod, i taj Kvinslend obožava ugalj (45% proizvodnje struje), dok je samo 36% struje iz obnovljivih izvora (sunce, vetar i hidroelektrane). Južna Australija nema nikakvu geografsku prednost u količini sunca u odnosu na Zapadnu Australiju ili Kvinslend, ima samo bolje političare i svesnije glasače te više nema rudnike uglja i termoelektrane.

12 hours ago, kronostime said:

I poprilicno pustinjski kraj koji nikome ne treba i gde mozes da gradis sta hoces bez obzira na posledice u slucaju neke havarije.fantom

Kalifornija, koja je glavni kandidat Južnoj Australiji za svetski primat vršnog procenta dobijene struje iz baterija, je takođe poprilično pustinjski kraj "gde možeš da gradiš šta hoćeš bez obzira na posledice u slučaju neke havarije", pa je svojevremeno izgradila neke nuklearne elektrane, ali je na putu da ih sve pozatvara, najveću dosad je zatvorila tamo negde kad i Japanci i Nemci svoje. Pitam se zbog čega?

SaE

Da ne bude da samo u toplijim krajevima prave velike baterije:

(a već su ugovorili izgradnju više nego dvostruko veće peščane baterije, tri meseca nakon izgradnje ove iz videa)

SaE

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Economic situation

EU approval for new gas-fired power plants is likely, according to Merz.

The German government wants to promote the construction of new gas-fired power plants to increase security of supply. However, Brussels still needs to approve this.

dpa, January 15, 2026 - 7:12 AM

According to German Chancellor Friedrich Merz ( CDU ) , the EU Commission's approval for the construction of new gas-fired power plants in Germany is imminent. Speaking at a business reception in Halle, Merz said: "We received news this morning in Berlin that the EU Commission will largely approve the power plant strategy, the electricity price compensation, and the industrial electricity price."

The EU Commission will also approve the combination of several options. This approval is necessary because the German government intends to provide substantial subsidies for reducing industrial electricity prices and compensating for electricity price fluctuations. Approval is imminent.

New gas-fired power plants

New gas-fired power plants are intended to serve as backups when electricity demand cannot be met by renewable energy sources – during periods of low wind and solar output, when the sun isn't shining and the wind isn't blowing. Germany plans to phase out coal-fired power generation gradually by 2038, which will result in a significant loss of so-called guaranteed capacity. Billions of euros in government subsidies are planned for the construction of these new gas-fired power plants. So far, companies have been hesitant to invest. The EU Commission must also give its approval.

Merz said the difference to the previous government's power plant strategy was that gas-fired power plants could now be built without having to be hydrogen-capable from day one. "We don't have the hydrogen we actually need for that." Therefore, the agreement with the EU Commission is that these power plants can be retrofitted, but that they can also be operated with gas as long as there isn't enough hydrogen available.

Energy prices

The government plans to provide relief to energy-intensive companies with a state-subsidized, lower industrial electricity price. Companies will be able to claim compensation for the years 2026 to 2028, with payments to follow in the subsequent year. An expansion of the so-called electricity price compensation scheme is also planned. This will indirectly relieve companies of some of the costs associated with CO2 emissions trading. The business community had been pushing for a combination of both measures. Economics Minister Katherina Reiche (CDU) had already stated that both instruments should be combinable for many companies. This, she said, would provide genuine relief for energy-intensive businesses in Germany.

Merz: Expensive energy transition

The Chancellor described the phase-out of nuclear energy as a serious strategic error. "If you were going to do it anyway, you should at least have kept the last remaining nuclear power plants in Germany online for three years." The last three German nuclear power plants were decommissioned in April 2023.

Germany has the most expensive energy transition in the world, said Merz. The federal government wants to correct this, but there is insufficient energy generation capacity. Economics Minister Reiche has announced plans to reduce the costs of the energy transition.

https://www.wiwo.de/politik/europa/neue-gaskraftwerke-eu-genehmigung-laut-kanzler-merz-wahrscheinlich/100191660.html (prevod: Google Translate)

Toooo! Meho, pali gas!

A vod(on)ik, ma pusti to sad, retrofitat ćemo mi to jednoga dana, kad dozrije fantom

Sve su maske pale...

Sad sam zbunjen, ja sam očekivao da budeš oduševljen. Electricity maps kojeg najviše volite da postujete ima da se zazeleni kad zadnjih 20% bude gas a ne ugalj. Ima nuklearna Poljska da ostane crna rupa Evrope, al dobro biće bolje 2040.

Umiveni nemački Trump je ispušni plin prošlog vremena i tako se obraća svojim glasačima. Trkeljisanje koje sama industrija odbacuje. Ostaje mu još da se zabrinuto obrati narodu zbog trans populacije. Ne znam zašto mu smetaju subvencije koje je sam uveo, kad je to standardno za jeftinu struju u komšiluku. Hoće da sve bude kao u komšiluku gde se subvencioniše, al da ne subvencioniše. To se valjda dešava kad neko toliko želi da živi u prošlosti pa iskače iz voza koji je sam pokrenuo, jer ima viziju opštinskog ćate.

Ali ništa od toga nije bitno, jer je još jedna rekordna godina u energetskoj tranziciji iza nas. Nothing stops this train. To infinity and beyond.

Odakle ce toliko gas da stigne?Cena sitnica , to ce puchanstvo sa osmehom da plati jer bezbednos nema cenu.

China's State Grid will spend 4 trillion yuan ($574 billion) to upgrade the country's power grid between 2026 and 2030, state-run Xinhua news agency said on Thursday.

That is a 40% jump in fixed-asset investments from the previous five-year period, according to the report by Xinhua, as China ramps up wind and solar capacity to meet its goal of peaking its carbon emissions by 2030.

It works out to an average 800 billion yuan in investment per year - topping the record 650 billion yuan that the country's main national grid operator invested in 2025.

The funding will go towards shoring up China's west-to-east power transmission network, Xinhua said, using high-voltage power lines to send electricity across thousands of kilometres from China's less densely populated western regions to its eastern metropolises.

State Grid will increase cross-provincial and cross-regional power transmission by 30% from end-2025 levels, the report said.

The outlays will also serve to expand distribution networks in both urbanised and remote areas, and explore off-grid and microgrid power generation models.

https://www.reuters.com/sustainability/boards-policy-regulation/chinas-power-grid-investments-surge-record-574-billion-2026-2030-2026-01-15/

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On 15. 1. 2026. at 12:07, askeladden said:

Odakle ce toliko gas da stigne?Cena sitnica , to ce puchanstvo sa osmehom da plati jer bezbednos nema cenu.

tačno tako. sitnica.

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22 minutes ago, barrcode said:

tačno tako. sitnica.

G-J_lctXAAEp6jp.jpg

Hm,kupovale se nemilosrdno na veliko od wait for it….RusaIMG_4926.png

o kojim količinama govorimo, a da nije za madjarsku i slovačku?

43 minutes ago, barrcode said:

o kojim količinama govorimo, a da nije za madjarsku i slovačku?

Sitno nesto

Germany imported significant amounts of Russian natural gas in 2024, primarily as Liquefied Natural Gas (LNG) via other European ports like Dunkirk, with state-owned SEFE purchasing

58 shipments (around 4.2 million tonnes or 5.66 billion cubic meters), a huge increase (up to 6.5x) from 2023, though direct pipeline gas stopped in 2022. These indirect LNG imports, allowed as Russian LNG wasn't sanctioned, made up a noticeable portion of Germany's total gas supply, with some sources putting it at 3-9.2%. 

Evo zato su u 2025 bili kano klisurine samo 29% vise nego 2024

Germany imported a significant amount of Russian LNG in 2025, despite efforts to pivot away from Russian energy, with state-owned SEFE buying substantial volumes (over €2bn worth expected), as the EU's overall Russian LNG imports rose by 29% in H1 2025, though pipeline flows decreased, showing a complex shift to seaborne gas from suppliers like Novatek and Russia's Yamal LNG despite EU phase-out plans for 2027. 

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20 minutes ago, askeladden said:

Sitno nesto

da.

elem kombinovano NG + LNG = 80% manje u odnosu na npr 2019.

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