Coronavirus Covid-19 - opšta tema

[precog]

super, samo sto je to staticko predvidjanje, da se stvari nece menjati sa povecanjem broja obolelih i da ce ostati ove postavke, na kojima je model, ka kome se ide, zasnovan.

Edited July 7, 2021 by precog

[Friend]

Pa nema gde situacija da ode dalje, virus je takav kakav je.

Vakcinisani su zasticeni, ostali ce biti statisticki rasporedjeni svojim izborom (na zalost).

[gone fishing]

ima tu i sitnica zvana long covid

- po istraživanju iz uk, 1,2% mladih osoba(mlađi od 25) dobija long covid

- long covid se definiše kao prisustvo simptoma bolesti koji traju duže od 12 nedelja od zaražavanja

- kod sredovečnih osoba to je 4,8%

- long covid ne zavisi od težine bolesti, već je to procenat od obolelih, pravila nema, bez obzira da li ste čipovani ili ne

[vememah]

Incidenca virusa po regionima:

 

30.6.

 

 

7.7.

 

 

https://datawrapper.dwcdn.net/5JTxB/23/

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited July 7, 2021 by vememah

[gone fishing]

- simptomi duge korole su:

1. premorenost

2. nedostatak vazduha

3. stezanje u grudima

4. problemi sa pamćenjem i koncentracijom

5. nesanica

6. preskakanje srca

7. vrtoglavica

8. trnjenje

9. bolovi u zglobovima

10. depresija i uznemirenost

11. zvonjenje u ušima

12. mučnina, dijareja, bol u stomaku, gubitak apetita

13. povišena temp koja se pojavljuje i nestaje

14. kašalj

15. glavobolja

16. gušobolja

17. promene čula ukusa i mirisa

18. osipi

 

- uh umorih se prevodeći ovde samo još fali opadanje kose od simptoma

[Friend]

Koliko vidim politicare i lekare za long covid zabole bas ona stvar dok god su ovi zivi i placaju racune za preglede.

 

Vreme je da se ova ujdurma zavrsi, pocinje total prokuzavanje. Neko sa vakcinom, a neko golim prsima.

[dùda]

Long covid je veliko sranje.

Godinama su posle španske groznice nacije bile u problemima sa lošim zdravljem stanovništva. Ne znam za koga je to dobro i kome je u interesu.

Ni pojedincu, ni državi 

 

 

 

[Amos]

Jasno je da puštaju niz vodu nevakcinisanu populaciju, što će povući i deo najslabijih vakcinisanih. Darvin i te fore, samo nemoj neko da je Kineze zvao zlim komunistima kojima život ništa ne vredi dok je na zapadu pojedinac sve. Jeste, kurac.

[precog]

2 hours ago, Friend said:

Pa nema gde situacija da ode dalje, virus je takav kakav je.

Vakcinisani su zasticeni, ostali ce biti statisticki rasporedjeni svojim izborom (na zalost).

povecanjem broja zarazenih ce da se poveca broj mutacija i ubrza ceo proces. neminovno ce doci do sojeva virusa od kojih nas sadasnja vakcina nece efikasno stititi. 

a u medjuvremenu jebigica i darvin za ekipu koja nastrada.

[vememah]

 

 

Ali dobro, šta Majk Rajan zna.

 

 

 

[vememah]

Quote

 

WHO urges extreme caution against completely lifting public health measures

The World Health Organization is urging “extreme caution” against lifting public health measures in countries around the world as the pandemic rages in countries with low vaccination rates and puts other regions at risk for the spread of variants.

Countries with high vaccination rates like the United States and the United Kingdom have been gradually lifting public health measures while other countries are battling their worst outbreaks since the beginning of the pandemic.

“We’re tracking this virus circulation all over the world and we are seeing sharp increases in far too many countries right now,” Maria Van Kerkhove, WHO’s Covid-19 technical lead said at a briefing Wednesday.

The European region saw a 33% increase in Covid cases in the last week, but high vaccination rates can give the perception that the pandemic is over, WHO officials said.

“This is not a flat curve, this is an increasing curve. Making assumptions that transmission will not increase because we’re opening up because of vaccines is a false assumption, transmission will increase when you open up,” said Dr. Mike Ryan, executive director of WHO’s Health Emergencies Program. “There are consequences.”

The delta variant that dominated the U.K. is now the dominant strain in the United States. The variant is more transmissible and could result in more severe disease, though more studies are needed to confirm that, WHO officials have previously said.

Ryan said he hopes we don’t see a return to overwhelmed hospitals and exhausted health workers in Europe as the virus is still evolving and changing. He warned that nations need to be “very, very careful” so that the gains they’ve made in combating the pandemic are sustained.

“The idea that everyone is protected and it’s Kumbaya and everything is back to normal I think right now is a very dangerous assumption anywhere in the world,” Ryan said.

There have been roughly 185 million confirmed cases of Covid across the globe and 4 million deaths so far, which WHO officials said is likely an undercount.

Some countries with high vaccination rates are planning to administer booster shots in the coming months, dropping mask mandates and “relaxing as though the pandemic is already over,” WHO Director-General Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus said.

Far too many countries are seeing spikes in cases and hospitalizations that’s leading to a shortage of oxygen and driving a “wave of death” in parts of Africa, Asia and Latin America, he said.

“Vaccine nationalism where a handful of nations have taken the lion’s share is morally indefensible and an ineffective public health strategy against a respiratory virus that’s mutating quickly and becoming increasingly effective at moving from human to human,” Tedros said.

He said variants are currently winning the race against vaccines due to inequitable distribution of the life-saving shots. At this stage in the pandemic, there are still millions of health-care workers that haven’t been vaccinated, which Tedros said was abhorrent: “It doesn’t have to be this way going forward.”

 

https://www.cnbc.com/2021/07/07/who-urges-extreme-caution-against-completely-lifting-public-health-measures.html

[Anduril]

Problem je u tome sto ko hoce da bude vakcinisan jos nije ukljucujuci i decu. Tu cemo biti tek u septembru i oktobru u Evropi. Zrtvovati pola populacije da dobije long-covid i rizikovati jos gore varijante radi dva meseca ranijeg totalnog otvaranja nije vise ludost nego fasizam u rangu eugenike.

[Anduril]

Dva dobra clanka koji najavljuju katastrofu u Engleskoj - nadajmo se da ce ostatak Evrope biti bar delimicno postedjen totalnog otvaranja i posledica:

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/jul/07/living-with-the-virus-uk-vaccinated-covid-cases

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/jul/07/ditching-england-covid-restrictions-dangerous-mass-experiment
 

 

[Friend]

1 hour ago, precog said:

povecanjem broja zarazenih ce da se poveca broj mutacija i ubrza ceo proces. neminovno ce doci do sojeva virusa od kojih nas sadasnja vakcina nece efikasno stititi. 

a u medjuvremenu jebigica i darvin za ekipu koja nastrada.

Pa fora je sto ne moze da se desi istovremeno da zaobidje vakcine a da ostane to sto jeste

Jer ako se virus toliko promeni automatski vise nije opasan jer su vakcine fokusirane na sam siljak.

 

Ako virus ukine siljak, onda dovidjenja covid.

Edited July 7, 2021 by Friend

[precog]

17 minutes ago, Friend said:

Pa fora je sto ne moze da se desi istovremeno da zaobidje vakcine a da ostane to sto jeste

Jer ako se virus toliko promeni automatski vise nije opasan jer su vakcine fokusirane na sam siljak.

 

Ako virus ukine siljak, onda dovidjenja covid.

ne mora da zaobidje, dovoljno da obori efikasnost vakcina dodatnim mutacijama, pa da se veselimo za sve pare. pogledaj primer izraela i efikasnost vakcina protiv delta soja. ako ovi ludaci zaista krenu sa prokuzavanjem krenuce jos grckih slova.