18 hours ago, Eraserhead said:

 

pitali je ispred kuce

 

5 hours ago, Eraserhead said:

 

Da li mislim da je OK da novinari nekog nesto pitaju?

 

koji si ti bogotac, svaka čast svima koji mogu nešto da komuniciraju sa tobom

taj ce sve nas da sahrani

3 hours ago, theanswer said:

 

 

koji si ti bogotac, svaka čast svima koji mogu nešto da komuniciraju sa tobom

 

Ne znam u cemu je problem. Ukoliko su je pitali za izjavu ne vidim zasto je to problem. Ne deluje da su joj upali u kucu ili uhodili. Zena je vodila stranicu podrske Trampu. Jebi ga danas svako oce da bude politicki analiticar i internet uticajdzija. Onda ocekuj pitanja.

ma nije ovo nista u poredjenju sa ucenjivanjem covek zbog jednog memea

21 hours ago, Eraserhead said:

Sad vidim da je redoran linkovao i Mark Dicea, jednog potpunog degenerika i starletu ekstemnih konzervativaca

 

Na ovom topiku ili nekom drugom?

On 2/23/2018 at 6:37 AM, dragance said:

Greenwald voli da se lažno predstavlja kao dobitnik Pulicera. Šta god on izgovori, odmah sve zaboravim. U stvari, on ostavi druge da ga tako predstave, a on “zaboravi” da ih ispravi. Tako su ga ovde kod mene uhvatili.

 

Nije dobio Pulicera?

Nije on lično. Guardian je dobio Pulicera, a ne on. To je kao da ja kao član FK CZ kažem da sam osvajač KEŠa.

41 minutes ago, dragance said:

Nije on lično. Guardian je dobio Pulicera, a ne on. To je kao da ja kao član FK CZ kažem da sam osvajač KEŠa.

 

dobio je njegov tim u gardijanu

Nije. Sad sam gledao na Pulitzerovom sajtu. Dobitnik je The Guardian US.

 

edit: i Washington Post

Edited February 24, 20187 yr by dragance

1 hour ago, dragance said:

To je kao da ja kao član FK CZ kažem da sam osvajač KEŠa.

 

"At the Guardian, the NSA reporting was led by Glenn Greenwald, Ewen MacAskill and film-maker Laura Poitras."

 

Dakle više je kao da Darko Pančev kaže da je osvajač KEŠ-a. Drugim rečima, lupaš.

1 hour ago, dragance said:

Nije on lično. Guardian je dobio Pulicera, a ne on. To je kao da ja kao član FK CZ kažem da sam osvajač KEŠa.

 

Bio je na čelu malog tima čiji svaki član ima puno pravo da sebe naziva dobitnikom Pulicera. Kompletan novinarski esnaf ga priznaje i prepoznaje kao dobitnika nagrade i niko mu to ne osporava.   

Inače, ko hoće malo da odmori od teorija o ruskim reklamama na Fejsu koje su programirale umove 130 miliona Amerikanaca, evo jednog teksta koji ilustruje kako izgleda kada se neko zaista meša u izbore u stranoj zemlji:

 

https://www.jacobinmag.com/2017/03/russia-us-clinton-boris-yeltsin-elections-interference-trump/

 

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That the Yeltsin campaign employed American consultants is hardly controversial. The relay between Richard Dresner and Clinton’s chief strategist Dick Morris, however, crossed the line. In his memoir Behind the Oval Office, Morris notes that Dresner offered to keep him in the loop on the Russian presidential race. With Clinton’s approval, Morris received weekly opinion poll briefings that he would share with the president, who would in turn pass on recommendations to Dresner via Morris.

 

Moreover, Morris describes this “relationship [as] particularly useful” when Clinton visited Moscow in April 1996. Clinton wanted to know how he could help Yeltsin, and Dresner dutifully called with his suggestions. Since the Russian line was likely tapped, they referred to Clinton as “the governor of California” and Yeltsin as “the governor of Texas.” 

 

 

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If one aspect of American intervention played a decisive role in Yeltsin’s victory, it came when Clinton helped secure a $10.2 billion IMF loan in March 1996. Two weeks later, Germany and France loaned Yeltsin’s government $2.7 billion and $400 million, respectively. That sum conveniently covered the cost of his election-year spending promises.

 

All the cash quickly vanished. According to Paul Klebnikov, “some of the money went to the Yeltsin campaign, some to well-connected businessmen and government officials, some to pay ordinary Russians their long overdue paychecks.” Clinton personally endorsed the IMF loan, and Yeltsin boasted that he “had to involve Clinton, Jacques Chirac, Helmut Kohl and [John] Major” to get it. 

 

Strobe Talbott lamented, “We were enablers. We should have tried harder, working with Yeltsin and his key advisers to try to find some way to get him reelected without giving the oligarchs free rein over the economy.” But they didn’t, and the results devastated Russia’s democracy and its economy.

 

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Yeltsin’s political comeback was hardly free or fair; allegations of widespread electoral fraud abounded. Western election monitors either ignored or dismissed these claims. Even the head of the Organization for Security and Cooperation in Europe (OSCE) Russia mission, Michael Meadowcroft, has since admitted that his bosses pressured him to declare the elections clean.

 

As a 2000 congressional evaluation of the Clinton administration’s Russia policy put it: “By pursuing a policy of ‘reform’ that required the political victory of their reformers by whatever means necessary, the administration undermined the democratic process itself.”

 

Edited February 24, 20187 yr by Redoran

Zanimljivi su ti izbori 1996. u Rusiji - izbor izmedju KGB koalicije bilionera i Jeljcinove familije sa jedne strane, i nacional-komunista sa druge strane koji bi da se vrate u stara dobra vremena Breznjeva. Daleko od normalnog izbora tokom onog sto se podrazumeva pod demokratskim izborima.

6 hours ago, Weenie Pooh said:

 

"At the Guardian, the NSA reporting was led by Glenn Greenwald, Ewen MacAskill and film-maker Laura Poitras."

 

Dakle više je kao da Darko Pančev kaže da je osvajač KEŠ-a. Drugim rečima, lupaš.

 

draganče lupa ajte molim vas

 

ko god je pratio stvar oko snoudena zna da je grinvold otprilike najistaknutiji novinar u celoj priči