Толстый и тонкий

[Gandalf]

Kvotovaću ovde.

 

Prema podacima Svetske banke, neto migracija u Rusiju je u periodu 2009-2013. bila na nivou od 1,1 milion ljudi; druga, daleko iza SAD, za dlaku ispred Kanade i Omana.

ja sam reagovao na koriscenje UNPD podataka. cifra od 11 miliona je "naduvana" cinjenicom da je neko ko je rodjen u Jerevanu '65-e, a zivi u Moskvi od '85-e, klasifikovan kao imigrant. na osnovu tih podataka, reklo bi se da priliv imigranata nije velik.

 

sa druge strane, vidljivo je povecana suma novca koju ex-SSSR imigranti salju doma. sto ukazuje na to da je ili povecan broj ekonomskih imigranata, ili je ekonomska situacija znatno bolja nego ranije. 

 

http://www.cbr.ru/eng/statistics/print.aspx?file=CrossBorder/Personal%20Remittances_CIS_e.htm

Edited August 4, 2014 by Gandalf

[Gricko]

Gomila Rusa je napustila ostale republike vrlo brzo nakon pada SSSR-a, mislim da su razlozi bili mnogo širi od čisto ekonomskih. Sada je to na osnovu mogućnosti nalaženja posla/plate, na neki način je sužen rezon dolaska, i nema više toliko baš Rusa po -stanima i Kavkazima.

 

Pa da. Kad se pogledaju source countries vidi se da u Rusiju imigriraju samo ljudi iz okolnih, bivsih sovjetskih republika. Slaba je privlacnost Rusije za emigrante iz drugih delova sveta, da ne pominjemo zapad.

[Zaz_pi]

Nema brige, Srbi nadomeste sve. Procenjuje se da u Rusiji, legalno, i puno ileglano, radi oko 100 000 Srba, uglavnom otisli u poslednjih 10ak godina. Ali jesi u pravu, ogromna vecina emigranata jeste iz bivseg SSSR i ne samo etnicki Rusi. Primera radi, Ukrajinaca ima masa na radu, milijarde doznaka iz Rusije ide u Ukrajinu svake godine, mislim da je to najveca suma doznaka u svetu. Puno ima Tadzika, Uzbeka, Kirgiza...masa radi teske fizicke poslove posteno i najcesce su zrtve desnicarskog olosa koji njih napada iako se bune na Cecene. Tu je velika razlika u odnosu na zapad i njihovu islamsku imigraciju. Ovo su ljudi sa ruskog kulturnog uticaja. Rusi imaju vise problema sa muslimanima iz Rusije(poput Cecena) nego li sa muslimanima iz Centralne Azije. Nisu mnogo bolji ni hriscanski Gruzini.

Sa druge strane, desnicarske organizacije/pojedinci u Rusiji cesto imaju zapadnu podrsku. Najpozati takav slucaj je vec nekoliko puta pominjani Navalni. Covek vodi rasisticku kampanju protiv emigranata iz Centralne Azije, iako, kao sto sam vec rekao, ti ljudi rade teske poslove posteno, i preko toga napada Putina, kao i za veliku sumu novca potrosenu na Ceceniju i Dagestan. Navalni ima ogromnu podrsku zapada.

Edited August 4, 2014 by Zaz_pi

[Prospero]

Navaljni je liberal i nada Rusije!!!  

[Eraserhead]

To je Milosevicev recept da se u opoziciji neguju budale vece od njega samog tako da on uvek ispada "drzavnik".

[Zaz_pi]

Nalvani nije Zirinovski. Navalni je sponzorisan sa zapada.

[Eraserhead]

Nalvani nije Zirinovski. Navalni je sponzorisan sa zapada.

 

 

I Draskovic je bio. Meni to lici na neku tu pricu. Uopste mi ne deluje da tu postoje jasne granice - ovi su nasi, ovi su vasi. 

[Zaz_pi]

Ne lici, Vuk je bio nekakav lik poput Zirinovskog ali ne otvoreni rasista poput Navalnog. Neonaci ekipa u Rusiji ne voli Zirinovskog ali dobar deo je podrzavao Desni sektor u Kijevu ili Navalnog.

Kada sam kod Zirinovskog, koji glumi klovna, je imao zanimljiv nastup 2006 na ukrajinskog televiziji kod cuvenog njihovog novinara Sustera, tu su bili prisutni Porosenko i danasnji lider neonaci Slobode:

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1d9fwpzobfk

[Eraserhead]

Meni je Zirinovski nesto vise poput Seselja, a Navalni je kao i Draskovic covek sa krizom identiteta. U svakom slucaju tesko mi je da poverujem da je ovaj Navalni izvan sistema koji tako dobro funkcionise, sto ne znaci da se sutra ne bi otrgao kontroli kao svaki pravi Iznogud.

 

EDIT: Omiljeni opozicionari ne moraju biti direktno sponzorisani. I Kostunica je s vremena na vreme bio in.

Edited August 5, 2014 by Eraserhead

[Prospero]

Što je sigurno - sigurno, mada je delom lakše ako posluješ na veliko sa Kinezima (Huawei):
 

Russia's Megafon converts cash to roubles, HKD for protection
Thu Jul 31, 2014 5:58am EDT

By Anastasia Teterevleva

(Reuters) - Russia's Megafon said on Thursday it had converted its foreign currency deposits into roubles and Hong Kong dollars to protect the mobile phone operator against any further Western sanctions.

Neither Megafon nor its controlling shareholder, Russia's richest man Alisher Usmanov, are subject to the sanctions that the European Union and the United States have imposed on Russia over its role in the Ukraine crisis.

But, fearful that further Western sanctions could complicate payments in euros and dollars, Megafon will now keep 60 percent of all its cash holdings in Russian roubles with the other 40 percent deposited with Chinese banks in Hong Kong dollars.

"We formed this position in the last quarter and deposited with Chinese banks in order to simplify payments with our key network equipment supplier, the Chinese company Huawei, as well as to limit the risks associated with possible difficulties in working with European banks," said Gevork Vermishyan, Megafon's chief financial officer.

Russian President Vladimir Putin has encouraged companies to protect themselves from possible Western sanctions by either bringing their assets home, or by increasingly doing business with companies in the East.

"We are not feeling extra-serious risks (related to sanctions)," said Vermishyan, adding that Megafon's pure focus on Russia was its advantage over rivals who have a significant exposure to Ukraine.

Megafon earlier on Thursday reported a 2.2 percent rise in second-quarter net profit to 13.9 billion roubles ($392 million) compared with 13.6 billion a year earlier and an average forecast of 14.4 billion in a Reuters poll.

Operating income before depreciation and amortisation (OIBDA) was flat, year-on-year, at 34.3 billion roubles, while analysts had forecast 34.5 billion. The company said its OIBDA margin slid to 44.7 percent, in line with expectations, from 47.5 percent a year ago.

Revenue grew 6.1 percent to 76.7 billion roubles, while analysts had expected 77.2 billion, the company said. In the first half of 2014, revenues rose 8.3 percent year-on-year, slightly above the top end of its full-year forecast range.

It reiterated its 2014 forecast for revenue growth in a 6-8 percent range and for the OIBDA margin of at least 44 percent. ($1 = 35.4600 Russian Roubles) (Reporting by Anastasia Teterevleva and Maria Kiselyova; Editing by Elizabeth Piper and)

[Eraserhead]

 

Interesantan clanak o regionalizmu unutar Rusije, odnosu Sibira i Moskve i medijskim slobodama.

 

In a move that showcased Russia's strained rapport with press freedom and its fear of any challenge to the country's current composition, the state media watchdog briefly blocked access to a BBC Russian-language service interview about an upcoming piece of unsanctioned performance art that was set to encourage greater autonomy for Siberia. The next step may be to shut the website down entirely, according to local media reports.

 

The Interview

The BBC's Russian-language service published an interview last week with Novosibirsk activist Artyom Loskutov.

 

During the interview, Loskutov spoke of plans for an Aug. 17 street performance, which he referred to as "a march for the federalization of Siberia."

 

The farcical performance's handful of organizers planned to call for the creation of a Siberian republic, or alternatively for its regions to acquire the same rights as a republic. According to Luskatov, the planned performance aimed primarily at provoking a public discourse about perceived inequalities between Russia's regions.

 

But to the Russian authorities, the performance has been no laughing matter.

 

Of the Russian news websites that reported the upcoming performance, 14 pulled down their articles following demands from state media watchdog Roskomnadzor, Izvestia reported Tuesday. On Friday, Roskomnadzor blocked a page announcing the march on Vkontakte, Russia's largest social network.

 

Roskomnadzor asked the BBC's Russian-language service to remove the interview from its site, owing to the prohibition on inciting "mass disorder, extremist activities or participation in  public activities violating the legal order," Izvestia reported.  

 

Acting head of the BBC's Russian-language service, Artyom Liss, wrote on his blog Sunday that Roskomnadzor announced it had restricted access to the webpage featuring the interview in accordance with Russia's anti-extremism legislation.

 

To appease the agency's concerns, Liss announced that background information on Loskutov — who is known for his controversial performance-art activism — had been added as an introduction to the interview, along with a note on the not-entirely-serious nature of the event.  

 

Izvestia quoted an unidentified source close to Roskomnadzor as saying that the agency was contemplating blocking the BBC Russian-language service's website in the country altogether. The website — and the interview with Loskutov —  are both accessible in Russia as of the time of publication.

 

Russia's restriction on Internet content seen as subversive is not unprecedented. In March, the Prosecutor General's Office ordered restrictions on access to such opposition-friendly websites  as Grani.ru, Kasparov.ru, and the blog of opposition leader Alexei Navalny, saying they called  for "illegal activity and participation in mass events held in violation of the established order."

 

Constitutional Issue

What has offended Russian authorities about the initiative — beyond the proliferation of information about an unsanctioned public event — is the unconstitutional nature of the idea of creating a Siberian republic or changing the status of its regions, according to Dmitry Zhuravlyov, director of the Moscow-based Institute for Regional Problems.

 

"I can understand the position of these people [organizers of the march] on a psychological level," Zhuravlyov said. "They want to have more control over the riches of Siberia, and that is understandable. But what is unacceptable to Russia is that this whole idea goes against the Constitution. You cannot change the status of your region just like that."

 

Lately, Russian authorities have been particularly wary of talk of separatism and of modifications to the country's federal structure. President Vladimir Putin signed legislation last month introducing prison sentences for violations of Russia's territorial integrity.

 

But Loskutov's initiative, at least as it was described in the BBC interview, was not meant to advocate for Siberia's separation from Russia. Rather, Siberia's standing within the Russian Federation is what lies at the heart of the matter for Loskutov and a small number of Siberians.

 

"Historically, Siberia is everything that lies beyond the Ural Mountains," Loskutov told The Moscow Times on Tuesday. "But it is not important which Siberia we are talking about — the historical territory or the smaller federal district. What is important to us is the message that there are inequalities between regions in this country. This is what we want to draw attention to."

 

Siberia, in the broadest geographical interpretation, contains nearly all different types of federal subjects found in the country: republics, territories, regions, autonomous regions and areas.

 

Regions vs. Republics

The Russian Constitution endows republics, which were historically defined along ethno-cultural lines, with more rights than regions. Republics, for example, have the right to proclaim their own state languages, to be used alongside Russian in local and regional state institutions. Republics also have their own constitutions and legislatures, and more latitude in the management of  resources. Article 5 of the Constitution even refers to republics as "states," although they are not considered sovereign.

 

But revamping the constitution to change the status of Siberia's regions — a legal procedure both the regions and central government would have to agree to — would not be an ideal solution to inequalities between Russia's regions, Zhuravlyov said.

 

"The regions of Siberia are not divided along ethnic lines [a mere 6,000 Russian citizens identified themselves as "Siberian" in the 2010 census] and there is almost no support for this project," he said. "They do not need a republic. What really needs to happen is tax earnings need to be redistributed in order to better cater to regional needs. This needs to be done for the sake of all regions, not only for Siberia."

 

In the 2000's, Russia's tax system underwent drastic changes that channeled tax revenues from regional budgets into the federal coffers. Because of these reforms, the federal government  decides which regions get financial help from Moscow.

 

A History of Siberian Regionalism

The first movements in favor of Siberia's autonomy, known as Siberian regionalism, emerged in the 19th century. Despite calls for greater self-governance, only marginal factions of the Siberian regionalist movement advocated separation from Russia.

 

For a brief period in the aftermath of the 1917 Revolution, Siberia actually became independent from Russia. During that time, regional assemblies and councils were established.

 

Failing to garner popular support, these formations were absorbed by Soviet authorities in 1921, which tamed Siberia's former aspirations of self-governance.

 

During Boris Yeltsin's presidency in the 1990s, tensions between Siberian regions and the central government emerged, with advocacy groups sprouting up to lobby for the regions' cause.

 

Territorial-administrative regions such as Sakha-Yakutia declared their status as republics while coalitions like the Association of Siberian Towns and the Siberian Agreement, whose signatories vowed to cooperate in agricultural and industrial production, materialized.

 

These groups did not advocate for Siberia's separation from Russia but rather for increased autonomy from Moscow. 

 

 

Edited August 6, 2014 by Eraserhead

[stena]

Kanada poostrila sankcije Rusiji. 

 

http://zn.ua/WORLD/kanada-vvela-sankcii-protiv-22-rossiyskih-bankov-i-kompaniy-150344_.html

[Korki]

Русија увела санкције на одређене прехрамбене производе из свих земаља које су увеле санкције Русији. То ће погодити земље попут Грчке, која је ионако у кризи, ово никако не помаже. Одређене америчке компаније у IT сектору су изгубиле послове са руском владом.

додато: Русија планира да уведе забрану лета изнад Сибира за одређене западне авио компаније, чартер, где се очекују прилични губици за те компаније. Пре свега се односи на Бритиш а., Луфтханзу... То су све много мањи губици за Русију него обрнуто, ЕУ ће морати милијарде да потроши на Украјину кроз разне субституције и помоћ. Питање је колико они то могу да издрже.

Edited August 6, 2014 by Korki

[Eraserhead]

Русија увела санкције на одређене прехрамбене производе из свих земаља које су увеле санкције Русији. То ће погодити земље попут Грчке, која је ионако у кризи, ово никако не помаже. Одређене америчке компаније у IT сектору су изгубиле послове са руском владом.

 

Najkomicniji dogadjaj do sada.

[Korki]

Видићемо колико ће се Грци смејати пошто се Пољаци више не смеју већ праве специајлни тим због губитака који су настали због руских санкција.

 

UPDATE 2-Russia-EU sanctions row will cut Polish GDP growth - deputy PM

* Russia banned some Polish food imports after new EU sanctions

* GDP growth to drop 0.6 pct points, he tells daily Rzeczpospolita (Adds comment on cabinet reshuffle)

Aug 1 (Reuters) - Fallout from tit-for-tat sanctions between the European Union and Russia will shave 0.6 percentage points off Poland's economic growth this year, Deputy Prime Minister Janusz Piechocinski was quoted as saying on Friday.