zorglub Posted December 26, 2011 Posted December 26, 2011 (edited) Onda se slazemo da je intervencija protiv Srbije bila u neku ruku i opravdana i da iako je uzasno to sto je u njoj bilo zrtava to ne moze koristiti kao argument jer je i sama vlast ove zemlje napravila ogroman broj zrtava bez plana da se zaustavi.Ne, ne možemo se složiti glede opravdanosti (oko stvari koje je Srbija uradila najverovatnije da). Ono što tvoja sitna duša ne može da pojmi je da odmazda (posebno tih razmera) nikada nije rešenje, već samo gorivo za novi krug posezanja za pravdom. Mislim, ako treba da crtam - nacrtaću, samo, hoće li vredeti išta? Edited December 26, 2011 by zorglub
Eraserhead Posted December 26, 2011 Posted December 26, 2011 Ne, ne možemo se složiti glede opravdanosti (oko stvari koje je Srbija uradila najverovatnije da). Ono što tvoja sitna duša ne može da pojmi je da odmazda (posebno tih razmera) nikada nije rešenje, već samo gorivo za novi krug posezanja za pravdom. Mislim, ako treba da crtam - nacrtaću, samo, hoće li vredeti išta?Ne znam da li imas kapaciteta za normalni razgovor, ali eto da pokusam. Ne radi se niokakvoj odmazdi, vec o vojnoj intervenciji zemlje koja je bila najveci uzrok problema tokom deset godina. Uz to je u toj intervenciji nastradalo daleko manje ljudi za 78 dana nego sto je u pojedinim danima vojih dejstava te drzave. Tako da te price o odmazdi ne piju vodu. Ne volim poredjenja Srbije sa Nemackom jer Srbija nikada nije bila Nemacka ni u pozitivnom ni u negativnosm smislu a nije ni trpela "kaznu" kakvu je trpela Nemacka, ali zbog analogije moram da to potegnem. Da li ti mislis da nije trebalo dejstvovati protiv Nemacke 43? I da li mislis da su saveznici trebali da stanu na granici Nemacke kada su do nje stigli ili su pravilno postupili sto su zauzeli Berlin. Pri tome nemoj zaboraviti da je i u tom ratu od strane saveznika bilo pocinjeno mnogo zlocina prema Nemackim civilima, ali po meni to ne menja ukupni karakter dejstava.
yolo Posted December 26, 2011 Posted December 26, 2011 obozavam moralne visine razne sitne divljaci koja 3 meseca kasnije nad mrtvim vukom slavodobitno silje patkicu i u tome joj nije dosta jedan forum
Roger Sanchez Posted December 26, 2011 Posted December 26, 2011 (edited) Naravno da je ta zorglubova figura glupost, inače valjda Talijani okreću krugove posezanja za foibe, Nijemci za dve debellacije, Japanci za Hiroshimu, Argentinci za Falklande, Turci za istjerivanje sa većine Balkana.. a sve se to moglo izbjeć da im se jednostavno nije nanosila takva bol. Edited December 26, 2011 by Roger Sanchez
bergasa19 Posted December 26, 2011 Posted December 26, 2011 Ne znam da li imas kapaciteta za normalni razgovor, ali eto da pokusam. Ne radi se niokakvoj odmazdi, vec o vojnoj intervenciji zemlje koja je bila najveci uzrok problema tokom deset godina. Uz to je u toj intervenciji nastradalo daleko manje ljudi za 78 dana nego sto je u pojedinim danima vojih dejstava te drzave. Tako da te price o odmazdi ne piju vodu. Ne volim poredjenja Srbije sa Nemackom jer Srbija nikada nije bila Nemacka ni u pozitivnom ni u negativnosm smislu a nije ni trpela "kaznu" kakvu je trpela Nemacka, ali zbog analogije moram da to potegnem. Da li ti mislis da nije trebalo dejstvovati protiv Nemacke 43? I da li mislis da su saveznici trebali da stanu na granici Nemacke kada su do nje stigli ili su pravilno postupili sto su zauzeli Berlin. Pri tome nemoj zaboraviti da je i u tom ratu od strane saveznika bilo pocinjeno mnogo zlocina prema Nemackim civilima, ali po meni to ne menja ukupni karakter dejstava.Masis poentu i nisi jedini. Ako je rat onda se to zove rat, a ne kampanja. Ovde se nekad davno pricalo o Havelu i doslo je do neslaganja upravo zbog toga sto se neke stvari ne nazivaju pravim imenom. Nije NATO dobrovoljno pevacko drustvo, koje siri po svetu mir i demokratiju, deleci lepo i precizno upakovane poklone koje je dobio od deda mraza.
zorglub Posted December 26, 2011 Posted December 26, 2011 Naravno da je ta zorglubova figura glupost, inače valjda Talijani okreću krugove posezanja za foibe, Nijemci za dve debellacije, Japanci za Hiroshimu, Argentinci za Falklande, Turci za istjerivanje sa većine Balkana.. a sve se to moglo izbjeć da im se jednostavno nije nanosila takva bol. Jbg Rodžere, neko je nešto počeo, neko će to i da završi. Kada? Stay tuned, like forever. Jel' da da je to super?
Cane Vukic Prebranac Posted December 26, 2011 Posted December 26, 2011 Ne radi se niokakvoj odmazdi, vec o vojnoj intervenciji zemlje koja je bila najveci uzrok problema tokom deset godina.Апсолутно се слажем. САД су највећи узрок проблема. :D
Dankan Ajdaho Posted December 26, 2011 Posted December 26, 2011 Došao je dan da se i ja složim sa Irejzerom. Bravo momče!
Roger Sanchez Posted December 26, 2011 Posted December 26, 2011 Jbg Rodžere, neko je nešto počeo, neko će to i da završi. Kada? Stay tuned, like forever. Jel' da da je to super?Jel ti ne primjećuješ da su neke stvari završene? Npr. ajmo odma Godwinovski, Švabe. Probali su jednom, pa su ih smandrljali. OK. Probali drugi put, pa su ih smandrljali još jače. Sad dominiraju Wirtschaftom.Jel to ti barataš nekom Srb-deca™ verzijom povijesti koja se sastoji samo od dugih čekanja na retorzije, i u kojoj uvijek ima da ima revanš, novo kolo i vječni derbi™? Čak i u beli se podvuče crta i svi se raziđu kad se vidi koga ide, a koga ne ide. Daklem, there's no forever. You got one chance to win or lose. Sometimes two.
Idioteque Posted December 26, 2011 Posted December 26, 2011 Društvo, ništa od splitovanja. Trebalo bi ponovo da pročitam poslednjih dvadesetak stranica i odvojim bombardovanje od sveta. Right...Zato vas molim da ovu raspravu nastavite na "Milosrdnom anđelu". Hvala.
Zaz_pi Posted December 27, 2011 Posted December 27, 2011 Is model Turkey sliding into authoritarianism?The trial of prize-winning Turkish journalist Nedim Sener resumed today. His case, along with many others, are raising concerns about Turkey and its model democracy in the Middle East. A constitutional law professor, a prize-winning investigative journalist, a noted free-speech activist.All of them are among the mounting number of Turkish lawyers, politicians, journalists, and academics put behind bars in recent months on dubious terror charges that are stoking fears that Turkey's courts and police are being used to crush political dissent.Critics say that such cases are evidence that Turkey is sliding toward authoritarianism, even as it is lauded by Western governments as a role model for the Middle East – particularly in the wake of this year's Arab uprisings.Zanimljiv podatak:Since 9/11, Turkey has convicted nearly 13,000 people of terrorism offenses, more than any of 66 countries – including China – examined in an Associated Press investigation published in September.
barrcode Posted December 27, 2011 Posted December 27, 2011 još malo u vezi turske, od pre par dana: Greek politicians reacted angrily on Monday following the admission by former Turkish Prime Minister Mesut Yilmaz that Turkish secret agents intentionally started forest fires in Greece in the 1990s as part of state-sponsored sabotage. Cypriot President Demetris Christofias has warned Turkey to stop its warships shelling the strip of water dividing the Cypriot and Israeli gas exploration zones in the eastern Mediterranean.
ToniAdams Posted December 27, 2011 Posted December 27, 2011 http://news.sky.com/home/strange-news/article/16134054Two Dutch presenters are expected to provoke outrage with a macabre television stunt in which they eat each other's flesh in front of a studio audience.Dennis Storm and Valerio Zeno both underwent surgery to have a small piece of muscle tissue removed for the grim stunt.Mr Zeno had flesh taken from his abdomen, while Mr Storm is understood to have had buttock muscle tissue cut out.A chef then fried the flesh and the pair ate it in front of the audience.The stunt features on the BNN television show Proefkonijnen - which means Guinea Pigs.The pair try to answer "stupid questions" by taking on unusual challenges.The footage does not actually show the moment they eat the flesh but it does show it being cooked.It is weird to look into the eyes of a friend when you are chewing on his belly - Dennis Storm, TV presenterThey have so far refused to say how the snack, which they ate without any salt or pepper, actually tasted but admitted there was "nothing really that special" about it.Mr Storm said he did not regret his decision but added: "It is weird to look into the eyes of a friend when you are chewing on his belly."They insisted their stunt was entirely legal in The Netherlands as both had entered into the pact voluntarily.A lawyer advised the show's producers that while cannibalism is not itself against the law, the presenters or the surgeon who operated on them could face legal difficulties.Mr Storm and Mr Zeno said there was no health risk involved as long as their flesh was properly cooked.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5mFte51aAds
Anonymous Posted December 29, 2011 Posted December 29, 2011 Karakas -- Predsednik Venecuele Ugo Čaves postavio je pitanje da li je Amerika razvila tajno oružije kojim je moguće izazvati kancer. Naravno da jeste, uostalom Tesla je tamo radio.
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