Lancia Posted January 18, 2017 Share Posted January 18, 2017 Valjda mi bolje znamo sta si mislio Link to comment
Hella Posted January 19, 2017 Share Posted January 19, 2017 dobro, nisam bas mislio na socijalnu sliku drustva od 1817 do danas, nego vise posleratni razvoj konzumisticke svesti narodnih masa koji eskalira u tehnoloskom kratkom spoju sa welfare-om. znači to ne valja i treba dići revoluciju ok a šta će se desiti posle i koje ću ja benefite imati od toga Link to comment
mlatko Posted January 19, 2017 Share Posted January 19, 2017 znači to ne valja i treba dići revoluciju ok a šta će se desiti posle i koje ću ja benefite imati od toga posle ce medved da poje*e svinju a svi cemo da pojemo vaistinu jego. Inviato dal mio Redmi 4 Link to comment
eumeswil Posted January 20, 2017 Share Posted January 20, 2017 Why the elites always rule Since an Italian sociologist coined the word “elite” in 1902, it has become a term of abuse. But history is the story of one elite replacing another – as the votes for Trump and Brexit have shown. Link to comment
Krošek Posted January 29, 2017 Share Posted January 29, 2017 e ovo se zove vest Knights of Malta reinstate German aristocrat who had been sacked by British Grand Master in row that prompted Vatican intervention Link to comment
Eraserhead Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 Petoro ubijeno u dzamiji u Kvebeku Link to comment
eumeswil Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 (edited) Via Prospero, dobar tekst Branka Milanovića Is Liberalism to blame?, sem spominjanja pada tzv. komunizma, videti objašnjenje u spojleru. Prema Marksu, postojanje kapitalističkog društva nije uslovljeno postojanjem individualnih kapitalista, već specifičnog moda proizvodnje, koji se zasniva na postojanju razmenske/tržišne privrede, najamnog rada i stvaranja viška vrednosti, tako da je nebitno da li te viškove prisvajaju članovi državnog aparata iznad društva ili pojedinačni kapitalisti kroz privatno prisvajanje kolektivno proizvedenog bogatstva. U slučaju tih „komunističkih“ i „socijalističkih“ zemalja istočnog bloka, ti viškovi završavaju u džepovima članova partije, tj. crvene buržoazije. Znači, u pitanju su državni kapitalizmi. Komunizam, onako kako ga je Marks izvorno zamislio, a ne razne pogrešne interpretacije vulgarnih marksista i eksponenata drugih ideologija, je u industrijskim materijalnim uslovima (za razliku od lovačko-sakupljačkih gde je zaista postojao) utopijska ideja i moguć je tek nakon npr. sto godina socijalizma. A socijalizam je „diktatura proleterijata“ umesto „diktature buržoazije“ u kapitalističkoj demokratiji. Naravno, to nije prava diktatura, nego demokratska vladavina u interesu radničkih klasa a ne kapitalista. Radničke klase moraju prvo da aboliraju klasu pa tek onda državu. Demokratija kao i ova danas, samo se bogati oporezuju daleko više i stvari se sve više socijalizuju kako vreme prolazi. Nikada do sada nije postojala komunistička država, sam taj termin je kontradikcija: komunističko društvo je društvo bez države jer stanovništvo postane država. Dug period vremena u socijalizmu bi ljude naučio da su svi deo države i ona bi postala formalnost pre nego što skroz nestane.Dakle, progresija bi izgledala otprilike ovako: liberalna kapitalistička „demokratija“ - > socijal demokratija (kao u Norveškoj i ostatku Skandinavije) -> socijalizam (radnici kontrolišu sredstva za proizvodnju i proces rada) -> komunizam (nestanak države) By “liberalism” I mean what is considered under this term in the US. By “to blame” I mean “for the rise of Trump and similar nationalist-populists”. What are the arguments for seeing liberal triumphalism which began with the collapse of Communism in the 1990s as having produced the backlash we are witnessing today? I think they can be divided into three parts: economics, personal integrity, and ideology. In economics, liberalism espoused “neo-liberalism” which was the replacement economic ideology for social-democracy. It championed, especially under the Clinton-Blair duo, financial liberalization, much smaller welfare state, and so-called “meritocracy” which essentially meant the ability of the rich to place their kids into the best schools out of which 90% would graduate and thus “meritocratically” claim later in life huge wage premiums. Free trade agreement privileged, as Dean Baker has written, the interests of the rich in advanced economies through protection of patents and intellectual property rights and with scant or no attention to labor rights. In the international arena, through the World Bank and the IMF, Clintonite neo-liberalism was associated with Washington consensus policies. They are in many respects reasonable policies, but were applied dogmatically and mindlessly especially with respect to privatization and often with the principal objective of ensuring that the debts be collected regardless of the social effects on the population. Greece is the best known example of such policies because it sits in the middle of Europe and the results of “debt collections” are easiest to see. But the same principles were applied across the world. Underpinning such policies was an ideology that saw economic success as the only dimension (in addition to the acceptance of certain liberal tropes which I will mention below) in which worth of an individual is expressed or measured. That ideology found broad acceptance across the world, fanned by globalization and by what that ideology has pleasing to the human psyche which craves acquisition of more. It was thus consistent with human nature and probably helped increase world output several-fold and reduce world poverty. But it might have been pushed too hard to the exclusion of other human characteristics and helped create especially among those who were economically less successful resentment and estrangement from the values promoted by liberals. Corruption. A corollary of this hyper-economicism in ordinary life was the corruption of the elites who espoused the same yardstick of success as everybody else: enrichment by all means.Avner Offer documents this shift in his analysis of where social-democracy went astray with “New Labour” and “New Democrats”. The corruption of the political class, not only in the West but in the entire world, had a deeply corrosive and demoralizing effect on the electorates everywhere. Being politician became increasingly seen as a way to acquire personal riches, a career like any other, divorced from any real desire either to do “public service” or to try to promote own values and provide leadership. “Electoralism”, that is doing anything to be elected, was liberalism’s political credo. In that it presaged the populists. It is, I think, important to see the link between the economic ideology of “commercialism” which informed economic policies since the early 1980s in the West and China, and since the 1990s in the formerly Communist countries, and systemic and all-pervasive corruption of the elites. Since being successful meant amassing most money, politicians could not operate in a different dimension (for example in “ideals”) nor could they get elected without being corrupt because campaigns could not be fought without money. It is an illusion that the political space may operate according to different rules from the rest of society. Pensée unique. Liberalism introduced a dogmatic set of principles, “the only politically correct way of thinking” characterized by identity politics and “horizontal equality” (no differences, on average, in wages between men and women, different races or religions) which left actual inequality go unchecked. A tacit hierarchy was introduced, where the acceptance of these watered-down principles of equality combined with economic success, was the requirement to be “non-deplorable”. Others, those who did not do well economically or did not adhere to all the tenets of the mainstream thinking, were not only failures but morally inferior. The high priests of liberalism, ruling the media, loved to hold, at the same time, logically contradictory beliefs which somehow were both “good”. Thus they created terminological or behavioral contortions that were either direct attacks on common sense or examples of hypocrisy as “supporting the troops” while being “against the war” or giving enormous donations to private schools (in order to get their names emblazoned in classrooms) while “supporting public education”. They were not embarrassed by contradictions, nor accepted trade-offs: you could support soldiers killing civilians “because soldiers protect us” and be against the war and killing of civilians at the same time; you could send kids to private schools and be in favor of public education; you could fret about climate change, berate others who do not, and emit more CO2 than 99% of the mankind. It was ideologically an extremely comfortable position. It required very little mental effort to accept five or six essential tenets (you could just read a couple of writers who repeated ad nauseum the same ideas in the main liberal publications), and it allowed you to do wherever you liked while claiming that every such action was ethically unimpeachable. Everybody was a paragon of virtue and indulged all their preferences. Others who failed to appreciate the advantages of such a position were ignored until their dissatisfaction exploded. No one among liberals seemed to think it odd (much less to do something about it) that the best educated country in the world with one of the highest world per capita GDPs, could have a third of the population who believed in creationism or in aliens running our lives. It really did not matter to the elite so long as these people existed in the Netherworld. Those who trusted in Fukuyama, and to whom the 1990s seemed like a triumph that would keep them at the pinnacle of human evolution forever, see today’s events as a catastrophe not only because they could indeed lead to a catastrophe but because their carefully nurtured ersatz ideology and place in society have collapsed. I am writing this in Vienna, in Prater, overlooking a giant Ferris Wheel which inevitably makes one think of Harry Lime. One can see liberalism as having set the Ferris Wheel in motion, with each car moving at first slowly and then faster and faster. The ride brought immense joy at first, but eventually, it seems, somebody turned on the switch to super-fast, locked the control room, and most of us are now in these cars that no one controls and no one can stop, running at break-neck speed, and wondering how and when the crash will come. Edited January 30, 2017 by miki.bg Link to comment
Radoye Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 Petoro ubijeno u dzamiji u Kvebeku 6 mrtvih 20-tak povredjenih, petoro kriticno, 12 lakse povredjenih pusteno kucama. Nego: http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/quebec-city-mosque-gun-shots-1.3957686 The two men arrested following the deadly shooting at a Quebec City mosque Sunday night are Alexandre Bissonnette and Mohamed Khadir, Radio-Canada has learned. Link to comment
Krošek Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 nejasan zlocin potpuno zasad Link to comment
Radoye Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 Bisonet je jedini napadac, navodno delao sam. Ovog drugog policija tretira kao svedoka. Jos uvek nista o motivima, inace proslog leta je neko pred ovom istom dzamijom ostavio odsecenu svinjsku glavu. Link to comment
Hella Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 današnja tviter dinamika je bila sjajan pokazatelj kako funkcioniše kosmos od sabajle počelo mahnitanje kada je procurelo da je napadač belac pa grobna tišina i brisanje tvitova nakon mogućnosti da je u pitanju međumuhamedanski spor pa onda ponovo sjw ludilo nakon potvrde o belcu više nema smisla ništa komentarisati osim onoga što znamo zasigurno tj da nakon rušenja vučića botine moraju u rudnike a belolistićari u ludare ili propadosmo Link to comment
vememah Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 (edited) Jos uvek nista o motivima former classmate, Jean-Michel Allard-Prus, who studied politics with him, at Université Laval and has kept in touch with him, told Le Journal de Quebec that Bissonnette, “has right-wing political ideas, pro-Israel, anti-immigration. I had many debates with him about Trump. He was obviously pro-Trump.” http://heavy.com/news/2017/01/alexandre-bissonnette-quebec-city-canada-mosque-shooting-attack-suspect-gunman-shooter-photos-pictures-video-motive/ Lajkovao izraelsku vojsku, Marin le Pen, Trampa, Mekejna, Buša juniora... (skrolovati do dna stranice) https://electronicintifada.net/blogs/ali-abunimah/quebec-mosque-attack-suspect-liked-trump-israeli-army-french-far-right Edited January 30, 2017 by vememah Link to comment
Krošek Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 http://www.jpost.com/Breaking-News/Two-killed-in-attack-on-Saudi-warship-off-Yemen-480076 ts attacked a Saudi warship with three boats off the western coast of Yemen on Monday, causing an explosion that killed two crew members and injured three others, Saudi state news agency SPA reported."A Saudi frigate on patrol west of the port city of Hodeida was hit by a terrorist attack from three suicide boats belonging to the Houthi militias," SPA said.In October a Saudi-led force in Yemen said it rescued passengers from a vessel being used by the United Arab Emirates military that was attacked by Houthi fighters in a strategic Red Sea shipping lane. suicide boats Link to comment
Roger Sanchez Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 https://twitter.com/joshgreenman/status/826200748203446273 Link to comment
bigvlada Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 Nadajmo se da joj neće pasti na pamet da nas posećuje, imamo sasvim dovoljno idiota. Link to comment
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