Milosh76 Posted March 22, 2020 Author Share Posted March 22, 2020 Sto se tice starackih domova, uvode dostavljanje pelena/lekova/svega na 2 nedelje, malopre mi javljeno telefonom. Quote Link to comment
slepa živana Posted March 22, 2020 Share Posted March 22, 2020 7 minutes ago, Meazza said: Bravo. #SediKuciKonju je jezik koji nas narod razume, treba ovo siriti dalje. možda #sediKuciStoko to je rodno neutralno u međuvremenu Quote Link to comment
Meazza Posted March 22, 2020 Share Posted March 22, 2020 Ne, ne, bolje je konju. Quote Link to comment
keitel Posted March 22, 2020 Share Posted March 22, 2020 4 minutes ago, Krošek said: nema leka koji moze spreciti da dobijes upalu pluca ako ti je virus napao pluca odnosno eksperimentise se s lekovima, rade se studije itd. ali jos je rano Pa Stevanović reče da se ljudi kasno javljaju, odatle je krenuo ovaj thread. Quote Link to comment
Krošek Posted March 22, 2020 Share Posted March 22, 2020 (edited) 6 minutes ago, keitel said: Nisam doktor, ali da bi nekom prepisao neku terapiju valjda je potrebno prvo napraviti dijagnozu. Ne kapiram tu potrebu da se minimalizuje značaj testiranja, o čemu se radi? dijagnoza je virusna upala pluca sa svojim standardnim komplikacijama sepsa ards i ne do bog ono sto ide posle toga, multiorganska disfunkcija i smrt, sve oduvek isto i odranije poznato. uzrocnik je nebitan u toj prici. to je dijagnoza, a ne "sars-cov-2" ovo su razlozi da se ide u bolnicu, kako mi je rekao jedan strani lekar: Quote Type 1[edit] Type 1 respiratory failure is defined as a low level of oxygen in the blood (hypoxemia) with either a normal (normocapnia) or low (hypocapnia) level of carbon dioxide (PaCO2) but not an increased level (hypercapnia). It is typically caused by a ventilation/perfusion (V/Q) mismatch; the volume of air flowing in and out of the lungs is not matched with the flow of blood to the lungs. The basic defect in type 1 respiratory failure is failure of oxygenation characterized by: PaO2 decreased (< 60 mmHg (8.0 kPa)) PaCO2 normal or decreased (<50 mmHg (6.7 kPa)) PA-aO2 increased This type of respiratory failure is caused by conditions that affect oxygenation such as: ... Diffusion problem (oxygen cannot enter the capillaries due to parenchymal disease, e.g. in pneumonia or ARDS) ... Type 2[edit] Hypoxemia (PaO2 <8kPa or normal) with hypercapnia (PaCO2 >6.0kPa). The basic defect in type 2 respiratory failure is characterized by: PaO2 decreased (< 60 mmHg (8.0 kPa))or normal PaCO2 increased (> 50 mmHg (6.7 kPa)) PA-aO2 normal pH <7.35 Type 2 respiratory failure is caused by inadequate alveolar ventilation; both oxygen and carbon dioxide are affected. Defined as the buildup of carbon dioxide levels (PaCO2) that has been generated by the body but cannot be eliminated. The underlying causes include: Increased airways resistance (chronic obstructive pulmonary disease, asthma, suffocation) ... A decrease in the area of the lung available for gas exchange (such as in chronic bronchitis) ... da se ovo ustanovi ne treba ti test na virus, nego na gasove u krvi. 2 minutes ago, keitel said: Pa Stevanović reče da se ljudi kasno javljaju, odatle je krenuo ovaj thread. ljudi ne treba da budu preterano debilni i da se skrivaju nego da zovu one brojeve u skladu sa instrukcijama Edited March 22, 2020 by Krošek Quote Link to comment
arheolog1981 Posted March 22, 2020 Share Posted March 22, 2020 Ne, ne, bolje je konju.Ne breSent from my POCOPHONE F1 using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment
Goranz Posted March 22, 2020 Share Posted March 22, 2020 13 minutes ago, Meazza said: Bravo. #SediKuciKonju je jezik koji nas narod razume, treba ovo siriti dalje. Možda da se ubaci i neko opštenje sa familijom, tek na to naš narod reaguje. Quote Link to comment
dùda Posted March 22, 2020 Share Posted March 22, 2020 28 minutes ago, keitel said: Ako im treba hospitalizacija onda je već kasno. O čemu ti pričaš jbt ? Pa jel ti čitaš nešto ovih dana ? Po tebi su svi koji uđu u bolnicu mrtvi ? Ajde da se zatvore sve bolnice šta će nam. Quote Link to comment
renne Posted March 22, 2020 Share Posted March 22, 2020 Quote SAZNAJEMO Stefanović inicira izmenu ograničenja kretanja tokom policijskog časa da bi građani mogli da PROŠETAJU SVOJE LJUBIMCE Ministar unutrašnjih poslova Nebojša Stefanović iniciraće danas izmenu ograničenja kretanja tokom policijskog časa, kako bi građani mogli da prošetaju svoje kućne ljubimce jednom tokom večeri, saznaje "Blic". Prema našem saznanju, predlog je da se vlasnicima kućnih ljubimaca odobri izlazak iz kuće u trajanju od 20 minuta u periodu od 20 do 21 časa, a moći će da idu najviše 200 metara od adrese stanovanja. Quote Link to comment
morgana Posted March 22, 2020 Share Posted March 22, 2020 super, to je bas bio organizacioni problem Quote Link to comment
keitel Posted March 22, 2020 Share Posted March 22, 2020 2 minutes ago, dùda said: O čemu ti pričaš jbt ? Pa jel ti čitaš nešto ovih dana ? Po tebi su svi koji uđu u bolnicu mrtvi ? Ajde da se zatvore sve bolnice šta će nam. Šta je vama, ljudi? Piše sve ispod, pričam o testiranju. Quote Link to comment
Zico Posted March 22, 2020 Share Posted March 22, 2020 13 minutes ago, Meazza said: Ne, ne, bolje je konju. Ne diraj konje, lepe, plemenite zivotinje. Quote Link to comment
Glass Joe Posted March 22, 2020 Share Posted March 22, 2020 Eto sto je uveden nocniu policijski cas, da bi ljudi spavali a ne blejali nocu i jacali time imuni sistem Quote Link to comment
mraki Posted March 22, 2020 Share Posted March 22, 2020 Ispred male komšijske radnje red od par ljudi, uglavnom nose maske, puštaju po dvoje unutra. Ali zato ekipa ispred cirka pivo i brsti životne teme pljujući par metara u prečniku... Quote Link to comment
zgembo Posted March 22, 2020 Share Posted March 22, 2020 (edited) Testiran ili ne, ako dobiješ upalu pluća, nije ni bitno da li je covid ili ne, zar ne? I ništa ne znači ako te testiraju pre nego što razviješ upalu pluća, ne mogu da je spreče. Osim ako se za ovaj lek protiv malarije ispostavi da je rešenje. Edited March 22, 2020 by zgembo Quote Link to comment
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