Amerika, zemlja velika

[Gojko & Stojko]

On 1.9.2020. at 22:22, trustno1 said:

PBS je skup odličnih stanica, da, ali nije državna televizija...

Terminologija, u redu ali nije bitno.

 

On 2.9.2020. at 2:58, ObiW said:

"... and the state (of Texas) didn't expand Medicaid which would insure more low income citizens under the Affordable Care Act (Obamacare)".

 

Hajde da vidimo ko to, pored Teksasa, nije uradio:

 

https://www.kff.org/medicaid/issue-brief/status-of-state-medicaid-expansion-decisions-interactive-map/

 

Ovo zuto sto vidite nema expanded Medicaid. Trampovo glasacko telo. Nema nijedne drzave a da nisu republikanci na vlasti, osim Viskonsina gde je guverner demokrata.

Kao nožem - baš kao što onaj lekar (Ašiš Đa) kaže u prvoj epizodi, da je to politička odluka. Izgleda im je pomoćnik u serijalu, pojavio se i u drugoj epizodi, komentariše UK sistem i koliko je neprimenjiv na US. Danas (juče) je išla epizoda o švajcarskom sistemu koji uključuje privatno osiguranje, a koliko sam razumeo sutra bi trebalo da ide poređenje sa australijskim sistemom.

 

Još o političkoj podeljenosti u odnosu na zdravstveni sistem - rezultati ankete među Amerikancima iz jednog od (prek)jučerašnjih prikaza:

 

 

SaE

 

[TdEII]

Off thread, on topic:

 

Blocking Property of Certain Persons Associated with the International Criminal Court Designations (odluka)

 

(vest) TT/SVT gtransl.

 

"The United States blacklists the ICC's Chief Prosecutor

 

UPDATED TODAY 07:55 PUBLISHED YESTERDAY 23:22

 

US introduces sanctions against Fatou Bensouda, chief prosecutor at the International Criminal Court (ICC), Secretary of State Mike Pompeo announced. The reason is that Bensouda is investigating American war crimes in Afghanistan. An attack on the rule of law that is unparalleled, the ICC believes.

Several ICC employees are blacklisted by the United States in protest against the court investigating suspected American war crimes. In addition to Chief Prosecutor Fatou Bensouda, a division chief at the ICC who contributed to the investigation is also blacklisted. Employees or organizations assisting both in their work are also at risk of being sanctioned, the USA announces. The sanctions include travel bans and the possibility of freezing financial assets.

 

US Secretary of State Mike Pompeo said on Wednesday that even more people and institutions could risk sanctions if they contribute to the ICC investigation.

- Today we take the next step, because the ICC unfortunately continues to target Americans, says Pompeo.

The US announcement comes after Bensouda was given the task last spring to investigate whether war crimes were committed in Afghanistan by the Taliban, the Afghan military or US forces.

 

"A serious attack"

The ICC condemns the US decision and describes it as an attempt to influence the independence of the court.

"These coercive measures, aimed at an international judicial institution and its officials, are unparalleled and constitute a serious attack on the Court of Justice, the Rome Statute system of international criminal law and the rule of law in general," the ICC said in a statement.

 

Stéphane Dujarric, spokesman for UN Secretary-General Antonio Guterres, said the Secretary-General was concerned about the US decision.

Several human rights groups oppose the decision. Richard Dicker, head of international justice at Human Rights Watch, calls it an "astonishing perversion of US sanctions."

"The Trump administration has distorted the sanction tool to prevent justice, not only for individual victims of war crimes, but also for victims of abuse around the world who turn to the International Criminal Court for justice," said Richard Dicker.

 

Not a member
The threat of sanctions has existed since last spring, when the ICC announced investigations into US war crimes. In June, President Donald Trump approved new sanctions against people linked to the ICC.

The United States, like a number of other countries including Russia and China, is not a member of the ICC, and believes that the country has its own procedures for dealing with accusations against its own military.

 

FACTS: USA AND ICC

When 120 states reached the agreement on the so-called Rome Statute of the International Criminal Court (ICC) in 1998, it was seen as a milestone in the pursuit of an international legal system.

The Court was established in 2002, after ratification by the necessary 60 states. A total of 124 states, including Sweden, have ratified the Charter and thus become members of the Court.

Several important countries are not included, including the United States, China, Russia and India. The United States signed the Charter under President Bill Clinton, but his successor George W Bush withdrew his intention to ratify it.

The US Congress has even approved a law giving the president the right to use the military to free American personnel detained by the ICC - a law that could, in theory, mean a US military operation on Dutch territory.

So far, the ICC has mainly investigated crimes committed in African countries, but since the focus was on Afghanistan and the Palestinian territories, the American tone towards the court has sharpened further."

 

Podvučeno: Obama? Bold: 

 

[dragance]

Kao neko ko je imao mnogo iskustva sa raznim klinickim centrima po USA, mogu da kazem da je prvo sto gledaju je kako ce da naplate intervenciju. Ako ima code u sistemu da ga unesu, onda je sve ok. Sto se Medicaid tice, zavisi od drzave do drzave. Ceo sistem je jedna velika piramida gde osiguravajuca drustva prave brdo novca, pa im ne odgovara da se stvari promene. ACA je bilo nesto najbolje sto je moglo da bude doneseno kao zakon, i cela histerija se digla od lobija insurance kompanija. 

[Weenie Pooh]

6 hours ago, mustang said:

samo dan posle od kako je uhvacena u licemerju, u frizerskom salonu u sf i to bez maske, pijana pelosi, otvorise nam salone frizerske i bernernice sa 25% kapaciteta

 

Namestili joj, zavera, antifa, ruski paravanzemaljci!

 

"I take full responsibility for falling for this setup", said Pelosi.

 

Nije objasnila kakav je to setup izveo frizeraj, valjda što su javili medijima kad je zakazala.

 

[dragance]

Setup zato sto je CCTV uhvatio na delu. Odvratna zena - dobro, nije odvratna kao slonovski establisment, ali mi je odvratna kao i vecina DNC. No, polako, vreme radi za AOC i protiv sadasnjeg DNC rezima.

[Weenie Pooh]

Mda, revolucionarna AOC, taj veliki neprijatelj sadašnjeg DNC režima...

[dragance]

2 minutes ago, Weenie Pooh said:

Mda, revolucionarna AOC, taj veliki neprijatelj sadašnjeg DNC režima...

 

Salis se? Jesi li video kako je Pelosi reagovala da podrzi Kenedija III u Masacusetsu - ni to nije bilo dovoljno jer je AOC podrzala incumbent.

[zorglub]

15 hours ago, borris_ said:

Meni liči na sistem gdje se kladis na svoje zdravlje. 

 

+1

 

2 hours ago, dragance said:

Ceo sistem je jedna velika piramida gde osiguravajuca drustva prave brdo novca, pa im ne odgovara da se stvari promene.

 

Sam sistem osiguranja svakog pojedinca na stranu, kriminal u kome osiguravajuća društva i farmaceutske kompanije učestvuju naduvavanjem cena do komičnih proporcija je očigledna glava beštije u koju treba udariti kontrolom države, ali to bi onda bio socijalizam, ne?

[trustno1]

3 hours ago, dragance said:

Kao neko ko je imao mnogo iskustva sa raznim klinickim centrima po USA, mogu da kazem da je prvo sto gledaju je kako ce da naplate intervenciju. Ako ima code u sistemu da ga unesu, onda je sve ok. Sto se Medicaid tice, zavisi od drzave do drzave. Ceo sistem je jedna velika piramida gde osiguravajuca drustva prave brdo novca, pa im ne odgovara da se stvari promene. ACA je bilo nesto najbolje sto je moglo da bude doneseno kao zakon, i cela histerija se digla od lobija insurance kompanija. 

Kao neko ko je imao mnogo iskustva sa klinikama i u Americi i u Kanadi mogu da kažem da su neki ljudi koji bi umrli u Kanadi ili ostali invalidi bili spašeni u Americi.

 

@Gojko & Stojko PBS nije državna stanica as in, privatna je stanica

[dragance]

Just now, trustno1 said:

Kao neko ko je imao mnogo iskustva sa klinikama i u Americi i u Kanadi mogu da kažem da su neki ljudi koji bi umrli u Kanadi ili ostali invalidi bili spašeni u Americi.

 

@Gojko & Stojko PBS nije državna stanica as in, privatna je stanica

 

Ne znam za tvoja iskustva, moja su bila profesionalna i to bas u domenu placanja, vrste intervencija, itd. Pazi cuda, nisi ekspert u svemu! I know, it's hard to take.

[dragance]

9 minutes ago, trustno1 said:

 

@Gojko & Stojko PBS nije državna stanica as in, privatna je stanica

PBS nije stanica, već network oko 300 i kusur manjih not for profit stanica.

[trustno1]

34 minutes ago, dragance said:

 

Ne znam za tvoja iskustva, moja su bila profesionalna i to bas u domenu placanja, vrste intervencija, itd. Pazi cuda, nisi ekspert u svemu! I know, it's hard to take.

 

Ne brate. Napisao si to jer je verovatno tebi teško. Svako ima neko iskustvo i sva iskustva treba da budu podjednako legitimna. Da ne pričam da nije ok da ljudi vredjaju i ismevaju druge ljude samo zato što se njihovo iskustvo kosi sa iskustvima a pre svega zamislima ovih prvih.

[trustno1]

26 minutes ago, dragance said:

PBS nije stanica, već network oko 300 i kusur manjih not for profit stanica.

Ako odeš na prethodnu stranu, videćeš da sam već to napisala.  Nema potrebe da me kopiraš.
 

edit: mislim, da prepisuješ

Edited September 3, 2020 by trustno1

[dragance]

6 minutes ago, trustno1 said:

 

Ne brate. Napisao si to jer je verovatno tebi teško. Svako ima neko iskustvo i sva iskustva treba da budu podjednako legitimna. Da ne pričam da nije ok da ljudi vredjaju i ismevaju druge ljude samo zato što se njihovo iskustvo kosi sa iskustvima a pre svega zamislima ovih prvih.

🤣 kako da ne. Tvoje iskustvo u ovom slučaju kao pacijent - ili kao slušalac nekih drugara pacijenata - je isto kao i istrazivanje i uvid u praksu u profesionalnom smislu dugo 4 godine. Nastavi sama.

[trustno1]

Tako je. Reč je bila o tome da neko ko bi umro u Kanadi, u Americi mogu da mu spasu život. To je činjenica. Ti imaš neko potpuno drugo iskustvo koje nema veze sa ovom činjenicom i ja to poštujem.