Amerika, zemlja velika

[Budja]

15 hours ago, ObiW said:

Pa jel to tako biva i u Turskoj? Turska policija zavodi strogocu u Kurdistanu, pa ih se posle nekog vremena zarotira u neki drugi grad (Izmir, Stambol, nebitno), policajci namah zaborave gde su i sta su pa krenu da lemaju bez pardona?

Slutim da je to u Turskoj ipak mnogo drugacije, ziv nisam da cujem detalje.

A zasto vi bijete crnce?

ObiW US PatriJota.

[Budja]

3 hours ago, hazard said:

Vrlo malo. Htedoh Tribunu da kažem, nije to specifičnost anglo-američkog sistema, već samo američkog. Ni britanska policija ne radi takve stvari.

 

Ali to je zato što su kraljičini panduri bolji, na oba kontinenta  

 

[Sludge Factory]

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https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/democrats-have-a-chance-to-revive-the-party-will-they-seize-it/2017/12/12/f1f992ae-de9c-11e7-89e8-edec16379010_story.html?tid=sm_tw&utm_term=.295c2b70f390

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Last weekend, members of the party’s Unity Reform Commission voted on final recommendations for reforming the national party. The commission is the creation of an agreement made by Sanders and Clinton at the 2016 national convention to help heal the deep wounds the primary had left with Sanders supporters.

Spoiler

 

Not surprisingly, the Sanders delegates drove the reform agenda, pushing to open the party up to new voters and new energy. The resulting recommendations make important changes in three major areas. First, they slash the number of superdelegates to the Democratic National Convention — delegates who can vote for whomever they want — by 60 percent, limiting them to sitting legislators, governors and former presidents, vice presidents and DNC chairs. In addition, in each of the 57 separate state parties (parties include territories and Democrats abroad), activists will push to demand that the remaining superdelegates be pledged to vote for their state’s choice. In 2016, superdelegates gave Clinton 30 percent of the votes needed for nomination before the first caucus or primary. Going forward, insurgent candidates such as Sanders will have a more level playing field.

Second, the commission suggested changing the rules for caucuses to open them up and make them more transparent. Sanders won nearly all the caucuses, but his nominees pushed to open them up even further. State parties holding caucuses will be required to allow same-day voter and party registration and to offer absentee ballots, reducing the disadvantage for workers with inflexible schedules.

The commission was not able to codify similar reforms for primaries, as the state parties control those. However, the commission sent a message with its strong objection to closed primaries like that of New York, where independent voters must register as Democrats months before the primary to be eligible to vote. (For the 2018 primaries, it is already too late: The deadline fell on Oct. 13.) This system is intentionally designed to disadvantage a candidate such as Sanders capable of bringing new voters to the party. The commission urged primary states to adhere to the same rules as those imposed on caucuses, and called for penalties against state parties that do not do so.

Third, the commission would curb the license of DNC insiders to spend money on cronies and consultants without accountability. Jim Zogby, who has been a voting member of the DNC for more than a decade, notes that he had never seen a DNC budget. The commission recommends an Ombudsmen Council to investigate conflicts of interest, and empowered the Budget and Oversight Committee, with elected DNC members, to review any expenditure exceeding $100,000 to outside contractors or consultants. It required that budget documents be made public to the committee and that meetings be open to all DNC members. It also expressed clear disapproval of consultants serving both the DNC and a Democratic candidate, as exemplified by the law firm of Perkins Coie that somehow found no conflict of interest in representing both Clinton’s campaign and the DNC during the Democratic nominating process.

The commission, of course, doesn’t have the final say. Its recommendations will eventually have to be approved by two-thirds of the entire DNC. The DNC is where reforms go to die, particularly those calling for curbing the privileges of DNC members. This time may be different, however. A broad range of grass-roots groups pushing to transform the Democratic Party has vowed to continue driving the reforms. The first step is pressure on the existing DNC to approve the commission’s report.

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Edited December 12, 2017 by Sludge Factory

[ObiW]

5 hours ago, Budja said:

A zasto vi bijete crnce?

ObiW US PatriJota.

Drago mi je da uvek mogu da racunam na tebe da promasis ceo fudbal, stadion, sport, i naravno poentu.

Beowl nam je cesto pricao kako ti Kurdi u Turskoj bas i nisu neki borci za slobodu kako nam zapadna stampa servira. Nije sve to crno - belo, a kada se malo zagrebe ispod povrsine objektivni posmatrac sa lica mesta (kao sto je recimo on), bi primetio da ima tu materijala za kurdski terorizam onoliko. To sagledavanje stvari iz svih uglova i insistiranje na nijansama ipak ne vazi kad su u pitanju Palestinci i Jevreji recimo; jedni su borci za slobodu 1/1, nema tu ni t od terorizma, a drugi zveri krvopije.

Hajd da naglasim sta je poenta: objektivnost odlazi u kurac krasni uvek kada je sopstvena guza ugrozena. To valja povremeno reci ljudima koji misle da su objektivni, kao recimo beowlu i tebi.

 

 

[Weenie Pooh]

14 minutes ago, Sludge Factory said:

 

TL; DR verzija:

 

[Sludge Factory]

[mustang]

she killed it  

2:28 priceless

ona bese najmladja zena izabrana za house of reps...28-29 godina?

 

strastvena, pametna, britka i jasna. ono sto me kod nje uvek odusevljava je da stavlja americki narod prvi iznad svega. 

dnc se nece oporaviti od hilari za jos jedan trampov mandat. tada ce milenijals da stasaju i budu spremni da preuzmu odgovornost i doniraju u dnc a matori krkobabici ce gubiti na snazi i lojalnosti.

Edited December 12, 2017 by mustang

[Budja]

31 minutes ago, ObiW said:

Drago mi je da uvek mogu da racunam na tebe da promasis ceo fudbal, stadion, sport, i naravno poentu.

Beowl nam je cesto pricao kako ti Kurdi u Turskoj bas i nisu neki borci za slobodu kako nam zapadna stampa servira. Nije sve to crno - belo, a kada se malo zagrebe ispod povrsine objektivni posmatrac sa lica mesta (kao sto je recimo on), bi primetio da ima tu materijala za kurdski terorizam onoliko. To sagledavanje stvari iz svih uglova i insistiranje na nijansama ipak ne vazi kad su u pitanju Palestinci i Jevreji recimo; jedni su borci za slobodu 1/1, nema tu ni t od terorizma, a drugi zveri krvopije.

Hajd da naglasim sta je poenta: objektivnost odlazi u kurac krasni uvek kada je sopstvena guza ugrozena. To valja povremeno reci ljudima koji misle da su objektivni, kao recimo beowlu i tebi.

 

 

Opet, nisam shvatio tacno kakve veze imaju Kurdi, Palestinci i Jevreji sa policijksim nasiljem u USA, osim da je tvoj post nekakav pokusaj da se kaze da je jutro pametnije od veceri i da nije sve tako kako izgleda na snimku.

 

[teacher]

26 minutes ago, Sludge Factory said:

+1

 

12 minutes ago, mustang said:

she killed it  

2:28 priceless

ona bese najmladja zena izabrana za house of reps...28-29 godina?

 

strastvena, pametna, britka i jasna. ono sto me kod nje uvek odusevljava je da stavlja americki narod prvi iznad svega. 

dnc se nece oporaviti od hilari za jos jedan trampov mandat. tada ce milenijals da stasaju i budu spremni da preuzmu odgovornost i doniraju u dnc a matori krkobabici ce gubiti na snazi i lojalnosti.

dušo, ona je novinarka

[mustang]

znam bre young tourks

[teacher]

3 minutes ago, mustang said:

znam bre young tourks

pa da, a ovo je neka kurčeva komisija za "unity" u DNC, zapravo magla da se spasu ovi republikanci koji su za abortuse.

[mustang]

14 minutes ago, teacher said:

pa da, a ovo je neka kurčeva komisija za "unity" u DNC, zapravo magla da se spasu ovi republikanci koji su za abortuse.

sta mislis o kamali harris iz kalifornije? i tulsi gabbard sa havaja? ako si cuo za njih uopste. 

zvucim kao feminista a daleko od toga....samo cenim njihov rad. slucajno su zene.

[Roger Sanchez]

 

[bigvlada]

How The US Pushed Sweden to Take Down The Pirate Bay

BY ERNESTO ON DECEMBER 12, 2017 C: 58
BREAKING

A series of documents released by the US Department of State have revealed how Sweden was pressed to take action against The Pirate Bay. According to US officials, this directly led to law enforcement's decision to shut down the torrent site more than ten years ago. Sweden, meanwhile, avoided a spot on the feared US Trade Representative's 301 Watch List.

It’s well known that the US Government is actively involved in copyright enforcement efforts around the globe.

In some countries they’ve actively helped write copyright law. Elsewhere, U.S. authorities provide concrete suggestions for improvement, including in Sweden.

After The Pirate Bay was raided for the first time, more than ten years ago, the media highlighted that the U.S. Government and Hollywood pulled strings behind the scenes. However, little was known about what this actually entailed.

Today we can provide more context, thanks to a Freedom of Information request that was sent to the U.S. Department of State. While the events happened a decade ago, they show how action against The Pirate Bay was discussed at the highest political level.

The trail starts with a cable sent from the US Embassy in Sweden to Washington in November 2005. This is roughly six months before the Pirate Bay raid, which eventually resulted in criminal convictions for four men connected to the site.

The Embassy writes that Hollywood’s MPAA and the local Anti-Piracy Bureau (APB) met with US Ambassador Bivins and, separately, with Swedish State Secretary of Justice at the time, Dan Eliasson. The Pirate Bay issue was at the top of the agenda during these meetings.

“The MPA is particularly concerned about PirateBay, the world‘s largest Torrent file-sharing tracker. According to the MPA and based on Embassy’s follow-up discussions, the Justice Ministry is very interested in a constructive dialogue with the US. on these concerns,” the cable reads.

“Embassy understands that State and Commerce officials have also met with Swedish officials in Washington on the same concern,” it adds, with the Embassy requesting further “guidance” from Washington.

The document adds that there has been some movement on the piracy enforcement front in Sweden, with two legal cases pending. However, those were not the targets Hollywood was looking for.

“We have yet to see a ‘big fish’ tried – something the MPA badly wants to see, particularly in light of the fact that Sweden hosts the largest Bit Torrent file-sharing tracker in the world, ‘Pirate-Bay’, which openly flaunts IPR,” the cable writer comments.

Interestingly, Hollywood and the authorities were aware of the fact that a case against The Pirate Bay wouldn’t be an easy one. The site never stored any infringing material directly and had proper legal backing, the cable points out.

“However, it is not clear to us what constraints Sweden and even U.S. authorities would be under in pursuing a case like this when the site is legally well advised and studiously avoids storing any copyrighted material.”

At the time there were some rumors that Sweden would be placed on the US Trade Representative’s 301 Watch List. This could possibly result in negative trade implications. However, in a cable written April 2006, the US Embassy in Sweden was informed that, while there were concerns, it would not be listed. Not yet at least.

“We understand that a specialized organization for enforcement against Internet piracy currently is under consideration,” the cable reads, while mentioning The Pirate Bay once again.

“We are encouraged by reports of ongoing efforts related to Internet piracy in Sweden; however, the increase in Pirate Bay peers, up 74 percent in just the last 7 months, demonstrates the urgent need to step up current efforts dramatically to address this issue in the near term.”

Then the ‘inevitable’ happened. On May 31, 2006, The Pirate Bay was raided by 65 Swedish police officers. They entered a datacenter in Stockholm with instructions to shut down the Pirate Bay’s servers and collect vital evidence.

A few weeks after the raid, the Embassy sent another cable to Washington informing the homefront on the apparent success of their efforts.

“Starting with the Motion Picture Association of America (MPAA) visit to post last fall, Embassy Stockholm has engaged intensely with our Swedish interlocutors in efforts to improve IPR enforcement, in particular with regard to Internet piracy. The actions on May 31 thus mark a significant victory for our IPR efforts.”The US clearly saw a link between their diplomatic maneuvering and the Pirate Bay raid. This link was also brought up in the media at the time,with news reports citing sources claiming that Justice Minister Bodström and his State Secretary Dan Eliasson ordered the police raid under US pressure.

Interestingly, both Bodström and Eliasson denied any direct in volvement of the Justice Ministry with the work of the police and prosecutors in the Pirate Bay case.

While the cables make it very clear that the US wanted The Pirate Bay gone, the Embassy said that the raid went beyond their expectations, suggesting they were not directly involved. The pressure was clearly there though.

In future cables, the Pirate Bay case was often mentioned, with regular updates on the media backlash and progress in the criminal investigation. According to the US Embassy in Sweden, shutting down The Pirate Bay “should not be underestimated as a sign of [Sweden’s] willingness to take action and their position against illegal piracy.”

The cables also make clear that in Washington, the Pirate Bay raid was celebrated as a victory that was directly triggered by US diplomacy.

In a cable sent in April 2007, the Embassy nominated one of its employees, whose name is redacted, for the State Department’s Foreign Service National (FSN) of the year award. Again, The Pirate Bay case was brought up.

“REDACTED has spearheaded-work on Internet piracy enforcement in Sweden. The issue is particularly acute here as Sweden was home to the largest Internet piracy site (Pirate Bay) in the world. The work has involved extensive contacts with the Ministry of Justice, the Motion Picture Agency, as well as the Anti-Piracy Bureau.”

The employee is praised for her diplomatic efforts behind the scenes which directly led to the decision to raid The Pirate Bay, the Embassy writes.

“REDACTED skillful outreach directly led to a bold decision by Swedish law enforcement authorities to raid Pirate Bay and shut it down. This was recognized as a major achievement in Washington in furthering U.S. efforts to combat Internet piracy worldwide.”

Despite US officials taking credit for the Pirate Bay raid, it didn’t turn out to be the success they had hoped for. The notorious torrent site was back online after three days, “flaunting IPR” bolder and braver than ever before.

The press coverage was largely unfavorable towards the US Government and Hollywood, while the people behind the site were seen as heroes by many.

The US Embassy in Sweden was well aware of the delicate situation but kept pushing for stronger copyright measures behind the scenes. This time even further in the background than before.

“The Pirate Bay raid was portrayed as caving to USG pressure. The delicate situation made it difficult, if not counter-productive, for the Embassy to play a public role on IPR issues. Behind the scenes, the Embassy has worked well with all stakeholders,” Washington was informed February 2008.

At the time, Sweden was being considered for the 301 Watch List once again. The Embassy pointed out that, given the public suspicion, this could backfire. The other option was to keep a potential watch list entry as a “looming threat” while Sweden implements the changes they’re looking for.

“The USG [US Govt] has to carefully determine which course of action will be the most productive; (1) a Watch-Listing with potentially negative repercussions in future GOS [Swedish Govt.] cooperation and in the public eye; or (2) continuing to exercise influence behind the scenes, with a potential Watch-Listing looming in the background as a continued threat.”

As our earlier coverage has shown, Sweden then went on to implement a list of copyright changes which also happened to be proposed by US copyright holders. Needless to say, Sweden was never placed on the US Trade Representative’s 301 Watch List.

TorrentFreak spoke with Peter Sunde, one of the Pirate Bay co-founders who was indicted after the raid, and who has since served a jail sentence for his involvement with the site.

He is happy to see the new information being released. This is yet more confirmation of what he and many others have known for quite some time.

While former Swedish State Secretary of Justice Dan Eliasson, who now happens to be the national police commissioner, denied any direct orders from the Justice Ministry, it’s clear that US pressure made an impact.

“It’s been an open secret that the USG was behind the unlawful raid against The Pirate Bay, and exerting their power with threats against Sweden like this. It’s nice to see these documents coming up, interestingly enough from the most secretive of governments,” he says.

There is still a lot of information missing though. The documents mention a fifth person that was supposed to be indicted, for example, which is completely new information. Sunde hopes that Sweden will open up its secret archives as well.

“I’m hoping that Sweden will now follow up and release the 747 documents they’ve classified as secret regarding this affair. The Minister of Justice at the time, Thomas Bodström, said that he would put all the cards on the table so the public would know what happened, but then classified these 747 documents as secret.

“Sweden has a proud history of transparency, celebrating 250 years of freedom of the press this year, and it’s an open sore that these documents are being held as classified,” Sunde adds.

 

https://torrentfreak.com/how-the-us-pushed-sweden-to-take-down-the-pirate-bay-171212/

 

Švedska je naterana da krši sopstvene zakone i onda sakrije to kršenje. Kada je kopirajt kartel u pitanju sa takvim saveznicima neprijatelji ti nisu potrebni. 

[bigvlada]

Ukinuta Net neutralnost. Dobrodošli u Narodnu Republiku Ameriku. 

 

https://www.wired.com/story/after-fcc-vote-net-neutrality-fight-moves-to-courts-congress/