vememah Posted December 6, 2015 Share Posted December 6, 2015 Maduro otkrio da partija može i da izgubi. President Nicolas Maduro is saying that the ruling party cannot win every contest. Maduro had repeatedly vowed in recent weeks to take to the streets if his party lost. Opposition leaders said that if their coalition didn't win it would be because the government cheated. But the president changed his tone on Saturday. He said: "In Venezuela, peace and democracy must reign. I've said we'll take the fight to the streets, but maybe I was wrong." http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/L/LT_VENEZUELA_ELECTIONS_THE_LATEST?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2015-12-06-16-41-25 Link to comment
vememah Posted December 6, 2015 Share Posted December 6, 2015 Glasanje navodno zbog gužve produženo još sat vremena, jedan od lidera opozicije Kapriles (izgubio na predsedničkim od Madura 2013) pozvao Venecuelance da se odšetaju do svojih biračkih mesta i zahtevaju njihovo zatvaranje ako nema glasača koji čekaju da glasaju. Link to comment
Budja Posted December 7, 2015 Share Posted December 7, 2015 Ovde izvestava opozicija, http://unidadvenezuela.org/ Link to comment
vememah Posted December 7, 2015 Share Posted December 7, 2015 (edited) Zanimljiv inženjering glasačkih listića, preotmeš stranku sličnog imena kao glavna opoziciona, postaviš je na listić odmah do nje, a onda i nađeš čoveka koji ima isto ime kao nosilac opozicione liste i naknadno ga postaviš za nosioca liste otete stranke kako bi mogućnost zabune bila što veća. Naravno, čavisti (PSUV) su prva stranka na listiću. Electoral Cheating in Venezuela, One Deputy At A TimeOctober 13, 2015 All of what I will write in this post can be found elsewhere, but I thought it was important to show and save it into this database of abuses and rip-offs that have characterized Chavismo, as well as explain it in English. I am not trying to discourage people. I am just trying to show how Chavismo is moving all of its power to minimize the oppositions vote in December, without any ethics, morals and with blatant abandon. To begin with, within the MUD, there used to be a party called MIN Unidad. In one of those strange moves, the Electoral Board, removed the Board of MIN Unidad, replacing them with others who claimed to be owners of that particular political country club. The MUD proceeded to suspend Min Unidad from the MUD, as it could not guarantee the “purity” and backing of the MUD by anyone named by the CNE. Next thing you know, parties had to choose the location of their party on the upcoming ballot and MUD got to choose before MIN Undad. Where did MIN Unidad choose in the ballot above? Precisely next to the MUD Unidad location, as you can see in this blow up: a strategy clearly designed to fool voters into believing that MIN Unidad is part of MUD Unidad, which it ain’t. You may think this is a dumb trick, but it works. Too many people get flustered when voting with these machines and can be confused by such subtleties, even if they have been warned about it. In fact, I went with my then elderly mother to help her cast her vote a few years back and even though she had memorized every step, once she was in front of the ballot, she had no clue as to what to do. Clearly, the MIN Unidad location and design should nit have been allowed by the Electoral Board, but ethics is a four letter word among Chavistas, so there was simply no recourse and the position of MIN Unidad in the ballot stands for the upcoming Parliamentary election. But it gets worse… Let me now show you that ballot in better definition for Circunscripción 1 in Aragua State: In the MUD Unidad ballot is Ismael Garcia, a former Podemos leader who is clearly opposition. But wait! In the Min Unidad the candidate is also Ismael Garcia. What gives? Well, the MUD registered Ismael Garcia and Jose Trujillo on August 7th. as its candidates. On August 15th. MIN Unidad registered its two candidates Eduardo Nava and Belkys Cermeño. But then, within the period that you are allowed to do it, MIN Unidad changed its candidates to Isamel Garcia (Not the same one as the MUD) and Freddy Solorzano. Thus, when people see the ballots, they will not necessarily know which one is which. This is clearly an unethical attempt to deceive and take votes away from the “real” Ismael Garcia. While the law does not forbid two candidates with the same name running for the same office, the CNE should have at least made sure that voters could differentiate the two. But, of course, they hide behind the law and their lack of ethics. The point of this article is that there are 1001 tricks that Chavismo will apply come Dec. 6th. but people are not being warned enough or not enough has been done about them. Instead we are supposed to go vote innocently into this unfair set-up with everyone thinking that we will get 80% of the votes and thus Deputies. I don’t believe this is a responsible way of handling this. People are supposed to shut up, move forward and maybe win, but maybe lose too. I warned about all these tricks in August, if the above is not proof that Chavismo’s bag of rip-offs is not full of them, then let me sell you a used car. Really, it’s in great condition, low mileage, only one owner…cheap too! http://devilexcrement.com/2015/10/13/electoral-cheating-in-venezuela-one-deputy-at-a-time/ Link na listić iz gornjeg članka na zvaničnom sajtu izborne komisije:http://www.cne.gob.ve/web/normativa_electoral/elecciones/2015/asamblea/boletas/4/thumb04011.jpg Edited December 7, 2015 by vememah Link to comment
vememah Posted December 7, 2015 Share Posted December 7, 2015 AlJazeera prenosi predizbornu atmosferu - plaćanje večere za troje koja košta koliko 5 minimalaca u svežnjevima novčanica koje ne vrede praktično ništa (najveća novčanica desetak dinara), nestašice osnovnih potrepština, čekanje cele noći ispred apoteka... Reporter's NotebookDiminishing returns for Venezuelans may swing election As inflation skyrockets and queues form from early morning for basic goods, even loyalists abandon Chavez heirs. 07 Dec 2015 00:19 GMT | Venezuela, Elections, Business & EconomyLucia NewmanLatin America EditorWhen I arrived in the Venezuelan capital Caracas last week, I had with me a 100 bolivar note, left over from a visit last year.Back then, it was enough to buy an Arepa - a delicious flatbread sandwich stuffed with meat and cheese, which is a traditional and wildly popular snack here.On the black market my 100 bolivar note was worth about one US dollar. At the official tourist rate, two.So I could not believe my ears when I was told that my 100 bolivar note could now not even buy me a piece of chewing gum, much less an Arepa, which are now running at between 600 and 800 bolivares.Paying for a simple pasta dinner for three the other night took at least twice as long as eating the meal. We didn't know whether to laugh or cry as we built little mountains of 100 bolivar notes - the largest denomination there is - before handing the waiter 400 of them to settle our bill. Forty thousand bolivars.To put that in context, Venezuela's minimum montly wage is about 9,000 bolivares. At official tourist exchange rates we spent about $200, though at the black market rate our bill would have been $44.The distortions in the exchange rate due to price and currency controls are fueling inflation, which now surpasses triple digits, according to independent economists.Even a friend who is a staunch government supporter and makes 24,000 bolivares a month says she can't afford to make ends meet. Shortages of basic goods - including medicine - force Venezuelans to either buy at inflated prices on the black market or spend two days a week queing from as early as five in the morning for what they need."I knew Maduro was not Chavez, but I never thought he would let the economy self-destruct like this," she complained.Driving around a low-income neighbourhod at midday, I noticed a long line outside a pharmacy."I had to spend the night out here to get a good position in the queue or by the time I get into the pharmacy there will be nothing left," one woman told me fighting back tears.She told me that since President Hugo Chavez came to power 17 years ago she had always voted for the ruling party.But not this time."We need change. This cannot go on. The shortages, the prices and crime are unbearable." Whether a majority of Venezuelans believe that those things are unbearable enough to end the leftist goverments almost 17-year domination of power, is what this election is about to tell us. http://www.aljazeera.com/blogs/americas/2015/12/diminishing-returns-venezuelans-swing-election-151207000600536.html Link to comment
vememah Posted December 7, 2015 Share Posted December 7, 2015 Ministar odbrane drži pres-konferenciju u izbornoj noći: Link to comment
Eraserhead Posted December 7, 2015 Share Posted December 7, 2015 Ministar odbrane drži pres-konferenciju u izbornoj noći: A scenografiju je ukrao od Stefanovica. Nego, znas li sta kaze? Link to comment
vememah Posted December 7, 2015 Share Posted December 7, 2015 Ministar vojni je zamijetio neke neregularnosti, ali zemlja je mirna. Ministar je morao da se obrati zbog "glasina" koje kruže po društvenim mrežama (o ubedljivoj pobedi opozicije) i zatražio je da se sačekaju zvanični rezultati izborne komisije. https://twitter.com/horaciobarcenas/status/673684483044937728 Link to comment
Budja Posted December 7, 2015 Share Posted December 7, 2015 Ovo je ranije tvitovao Capriles. El Pais kaze da ce uskoro rezultati. Henrique Capriles R. ✔@hcapriles Los resultados son los esperados!Ganó Venezuela!Irreversible!Con mucha humildad,serenidad,madurez,asumamos lo q el Pueblo decidió! Link to comment
vememah Posted December 7, 2015 Share Posted December 7, 2015 (edited) Venezuela opposition says wins legislature, no official confirmation By Girish Gupta and Alexandra Ulmer Dec 6 Venezuelan opposition leaders said their coalition won control of the legislature from the ruling Socialists for the first time in 16 years on Sunday, though there was no confirmation from the national electoral board. Opposition leader Henrique Capriles, prominent rights activist Lilian Tintori and another opposition leader who asked to remain unidentified said the Democratic Unity coalition had gained a majority in the 167-member National Assembly. "The results are as we hoped. Venezuela has won. It's irreversible," tweeted Capriles, a former presidential candidate and one of the leading figures inside the coalition. The National Electoral Council was yet to give official results, however, and there was no word from the headquarters of President Nicolas Maduro's Socialist Party. Various opposition sources told Reuters that the coalition had won around 100 seats in the legislature. Should that be confirmed, it would be a severe setback for Venezuela's ruling "Chavista" movement, named for Maduro's popular predecessor Hugo Chavez who died in 2013. It would also be a further blow to Latin America's left following last month's swing to the center-right in Argentina's presidential election. The Democratic Unity coalition had hoped to capitalize on a wave of discontent with spiraling inflation and product shortage that many Venezuelans blame on Maduro. http://in.reuters.com/article/venezuela-election-idINL1N13V07M20151207 Edited December 7, 2015 by vememah Link to comment
Eraserhead Posted December 7, 2015 Share Posted December 7, 2015 (edited) Jos jedan link za pracenje rezultata 9:55: Opposition MUD coalition wins National Popular Vote by margin of at least a two million votes. Edited December 7, 2015 by Eraserhead Link to comment
Budja Posted December 7, 2015 Share Posted December 7, 2015 15% razlike, kaze CNN-E. To je manje nego sto su ankete davale, i manje od 2/3 poslanika koji su potrebni za promenu sudija, na primer. Link to comment
Eraserhead Posted December 7, 2015 Share Posted December 7, 2015 15% razlike, kaze CNN-E. To je manje nego sto su ankete davale, i manje od 2/3 poslanika koji su potrebni za promenu sudija, na primer. Koji je trenutni odnos snaga (pre izbora)? Link to comment
Budja Posted December 7, 2015 Share Posted December 7, 2015 99:46, 19 ostalo da se prebroji. Fali 13 do 2/3 vecine. Lepe vesti iz Venecuele. Maduro priznao poraz. Link to comment
borris_ Posted December 7, 2015 Share Posted December 7, 2015 Koliko je dobila MIN UNUDAD? Link to comment
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