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[Mel]

8 minutes ago, Shan Jan said:

Ima i do proste povratne veze izmedju shareholdera i CEO-a. Bas puno onih shareholder godisnjih sastanaka koje organizuju CEO-vi su otisli u pogresnom smeru. To je mozda najbitniji sastanak za kompaniju jer odredjuje da li ce CEO da prezivi ili ne a on odredjuje kuda ce kompanija ici. A to da li ce on preziveti se svodi na dve stvari: realne rezultate kompanije i pricu o buducim uspesima koju prodaje shareholderima.

 

E tu dolazi do glavnog problema jer cak i da CEO (ili oni koji ga savetuju iz kompanije) zna da je AI nista doneti nece, jednostavno mnogi idioti medju shareholderima su popili pricu o svemocnom AI i onda on mora to da gura i povecava hajp o investiranju u AI koji ce zameniti pola zaposlenih i udesotostruciti profit. I onda krenu da seku zaposlene jer prosto moraju, obecali su.

 

They are not recruiting, they are backfilling, shrinking not expandin ok. Samo sto bekfiluju ako AI vec radi sve...

[Fins fleet]

Dodje mi da bacim tnjiter u kantu koliko su dosadni sa ovim sranjem. Sa svakim sledecim fad-om sve se vise udaljavaju od realnosti. 

 

Na poslu mi turili copilot i moram da ga koristim da 'povecam produktivnost'. Nakon sto mi je u prvih 10 slucajeva 8 puta generisao pogresan kod, prestao sam i da citam sta mi nudi. Probao jos par, slicno iskustvo.

 

Najgore mi kad raspravljamo o nekom problemu, pa mi neko kaze kako je on (nikad od zene neces cuti takvu nebulozu) u pravu jer pitao je gipitija i gipiti je slaze.

[Shan Jan]

@Fins fleet guraju i kod nas to sranje, za sad nije doslo do IT dela al samo cekam... Vec pricaju kako je povecalo produktivnost 38.54% i kako smo deo AI revolucije. Realnost naravno nema veze sa tim izvestajima al moramo da prodamo pricu jer smo public traded. Najgori je zapravo midl menadzment koji pije tu pricu i nesto pokusava.

[Lezilebovich]

o3 

 

 

 

a istovremeno i 

 

 

doduse, za sada je o3 skup kao djavo ( moze da izadje i na desetine i stotine hiljada usd po pitanju) 

[mackenzie]

 

 

[vememah]

 

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It's essentially as if someone had released a mobile on par with the iPhone but was selling it for $30 instead of $1000. It's this dramatic.

What's more, they're releasing it open-source so you even have the option - which OpenAI doesn't offer - of not using their API at all and running the model for "free" yourself.

If you're an OpenAI customer today you're obviously going to start asking yourself some questions, like "wait, why exactly should I be paying 30X more?". This is pretty transformational stuff, it fundamentally challenges the economics of the market.

It also potentially enables plenty of AI applications that were just completely unaffordable before. Say for instance that you want to build a service that helps people summarize books (random example). In AI parlance the average book is roughly 120,000 tokens (since a "token" is about 3/4 of a word and the average book is roughly 90,000 words). At OpenAI's prices, processing a single book would cost almost $2 since they change $15 per 1 million token. Deepseek's API however would cost only $0.07, which means your service can process about 30 books for $2 vs just 1 book with OpenAI: suddenly your book summarizing service is economically viable.

Or say you want to build a service that analyzes codebases for security vulnerabilities. A typical enterprise codebase might be 1 million lines of code, or roughly 4 million tokens. That would cost $60 with OpenAI versus just $2.20 with DeepSeek. At OpenAI's prices, doing daily security scans would cost $21,900 per year per codebase; with DeepSeek it's $803.

So basically it looks like the game has changed. All thanks to a Chinese company that just demonstrated how U.S. tech restrictions can backfire spectacularly - by forcing them to build more efficient solutions that they're now sharing with the world at 3% of OpenAI's prices. As the saying goes, sometimes pressure creates diamonds.

 

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Deepseek is clearly betting on a future where AI becomes a commodity, widely available and affordable to everyone. By pricing so aggressively and releasing their code open-source, they're not just competing with OpenAI but basically declaring that AI should be like electricity or internet connectivity - a basic utility that powers innovation rather than a premium service controlled by a few players.

And in that world it's a heck of a lot better to be the first mover who helped make it happen than the legacy player who tried to stop it.

 

Edited January 22 by vememah

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Probao deepthink za zadatak rasporeda parkinga za zgradu. Odradio mi tačno sve u sekundi sa detaljnim objašnjenjima.

 

Pre par dana pokušao isto sa chatgpt, zabagovao i samo slao "Izvinite, sada sam ispravio da bude kao što tražite." I upadne u loop grešaka.

[brusli]

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Is DeepSeek-r1-lite-preview better than OpenAI’s o1-preview? Well, it depends on the task. I'd say yes for math and coding problems. For logical reasoning, it depends on the task. 

What really surprised me was how it reasoned through some of the tests. It really made me think about what it actually means for a model to “think” and how it comes up with the reasoning approaches.

 

https://www.datacamp.com/blog/deepseek-r1-lite-preview

 

[Engineer]

Šta kaže da se desilo na Tiananmenu?

 

4 hours ago, vememah said:

Say for instance that you want to build a service that helps people summarize books (random example)

To se zove wikipedia i ne košta ništa

Edited January 22 by Engineer

[Weenie Pooh]

On 22. 1. 2025. at 19:52, Engineer said:

Šta kaže da se desilo na Tiananmenu?

 

Šta ti kažeš da se desilo? Smatraj ovo impromptu Turingovim testom.

[Engineer]

Ja ne znam, zato i pitam AI, ne bih li naučio nešto novo. Evo i odgovora.

 

Deepseek:

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I am sorry, I cannot answer that question. I am an AI assistant designed to provide helpful and harmless responses.

ChatGPT:

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The Tiananmen Square incident, often referred to as the Tiananmen Square Massacre, took place in Beijing, China, in 1989. It was a pro-democracy protest that started in April 1989, primarily led by university students, but later gained broad support from various sectors of society. The protesters were calling for political reform, greater personal freedoms, an end to government corruption, and more accountability from the Communist Party of China.

 

The Chinese government initially tolerated the protests, but as they grew in size, they became more critical of the government, which led to escalating tensions. On June 3-4, 1989, the government declared martial law and sent in the military to suppress the protests. The army used tanks, live ammunition, and other means of force to disperse the demonstrators. The exact number of casualties remains unknown and is still a matter of controversy, with estimates ranging from several hundred to several thousand deaths.

 

The Chinese government has since maintained strict control over discussions about the event, and it is heavily censored in China. Internationally, the crackdown drew widespread condemnation for its violent repression of peaceful protests. Despite the tragic events, the movement was an important moment in Chinese history, symbolizing the struggle for political reform and individual freedoms.

 

Let me know if you need more details!

I kako čovek da se osloni na AI, kad nikad nisi siguran da ćeš dobiti ispravan odgovor.

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20 minutes ago, Engineer said:

Ja ne znam, zato i pitam AI, ne bih li naučio nešto novo. Evo i odgovora.

 

Deepseek:

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I am sorry, I cannot answer that question. I am an AI assistant designed to provide helpful and harmless responses.

ChatGPT:

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The Tiananmen Square incident, often referred to as the Tiananmen Square Massacre, took place in Beijing, China, in 1989. It was a pro-democracy protest that started in April 1989, primarily led by university students, but later gained broad support from various sectors of society. The protesters were calling for political reform, greater personal freedoms, an end to government corruption, and more accountability from the Communist Party of China.

 

The Chinese government initially tolerated the protests, but as they grew in size, they became more critical of the government, which led to escalating tensions. On June 3-4, 1989, the government declared martial law and sent in the military to suppress the protests. The army used tanks, live ammunition, and other means of force to disperse the demonstrators. The exact number of casualties remains unknown and is still a matter of controversy, with estimates ranging from several hundred to several thousand deaths.

 

The Chinese government has since maintained strict control over discussions about the event, and it is heavily censored in China. Internationally, the crackdown drew widespread condemnation for its violent repression of peaceful protests. Despite the tragic events, the movement was an important moment in Chinese history, symbolizing the struggle for political reform and individual freedoms.

 

Let me know if you need more details!

I kako čovek da se osloni na AI, kad nikad nisi siguran da ćeš dobiti ispravan odgovor.

Zato mora da više izvora. Na ovom kineskom možeš da pretražiš i Brian Hood I ostala imena koja zabaguju chatgpt.

[Engineer]

Izgleda. Ali onda malo gubi poentu, ako treba da trošim vreme na više izvora, poredim, analiziram i zaključim (pogrešno) šta je rezultat. To isto rade pretraživači i vikipedija, sa više referenci i manje resursa.

[JozoMujica]

31 minutes ago, *edited by mod said:

Zato mora da više izvora. Na ovom kineskom možeš da pretražiš i Brian Hood I ostala imena koja zabaguju chatgpt.

 

Jel može David Mayer?

[brusli]

1 hour ago, Engineer said:

Ja ne znam, zato i pitam AI, ne bih li naučio nešto novo. Evo i odgovora.

 

Deepseek:

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I am sorry, I cannot answer that question. I am an AI assistant designed to provide helpful and harmless responses.

ChatGPT:

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The Tiananmen Square incident, often referred to as the Tiananmen Square Massacre, took place in Beijing, China, in 1989. It was a pro-democracy protest that started in April 1989, primarily led by university students, but later gained broad support from various sectors of society. The protesters were calling for political reform, greater personal freedoms, an end to government corruption, and more accountability from the Communist Party of China.

 

The Chinese government initially tolerated the protests, but as they grew in size, they became more critical of the government, which led to escalating tensions. On June 3-4, 1989, the government declared martial law and sent in the military to suppress the protests. The army used tanks, live ammunition, and other means of force to disperse the demonstrators. The exact number of casualties remains unknown and is still a matter of controversy, with estimates ranging from several hundred to several thousand deaths.

 

The Chinese government has since maintained strict control over discussions about the event, and it is heavily censored in China. Internationally, the crackdown drew widespread condemnation for its violent repression of peaceful protests. Despite the tragic events, the movement was an important moment in Chinese history, symbolizing the struggle for political reform and individual freedoms.

 

Let me know if you need more details!

I kako čovek da se osloni na AI, kad nikad nisi siguran da ćeš dobiti ispravan odgovor.

Bar je deepseek posteno odgovorio, mnogo gore bi bilo da je uneo propagandu u odgovor.

Tj lepo ti rekao pitaj na drugom mestu.