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50 minutes ago, Weenie Pooh said:

Malo preuranjena reakcija na nepovoljan žreb, rekao bih :unsure:

 

Ne bi oni da si im ti tamo, naoružan svojom poslovičnom smirenošću... :D

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22 hours ago, Mindaugas Žukauskas said:

 

Pa složićeš se da nisu sva guranja i remplovanja na svetu istog intenziteta. Zato je sudija tu na terenu da proceni, i VAR ne bi smeo da se meša u pitanje intenziteta, kao što se nije ni mešao. Meni je naoko delovalo da je Kanselo ušao jačom silom. Druga stvar, ugao kojim Trent ulazi je oštriji, trčeći bok uz bok sa napadačem, Kanselo je ušao u ugrača pod uglom od 90°

 

Nisam hteo juče tokom utakmice jer mi bez veze da dok traje utakmice mi se bakćemo sudijskim odlukama a i mrzelo me da se raspravljaem... :) Kasnije krenuo NFL i zaboravio pa se sad setih.

 

To "procenjivanje" je i razlog zbog čega se dolazi u ovakve situacije. Kako ćeš da proceniš "intenzitet guranja" u slučaju da Sterling gurne Haalanda i obrnuto. Sigurno nije potreban isti intenzitet da se obori Haaland i Sterling. Sterling će se zaleti u Halanda svom snagom a ovaj neće ni osetiti a Haland samo da se malo nasloni na Sterlinga ovaj će da padne u komu.

Ako ceniš intenzitet onda opet opet nagrađuješ one koji bolje odglume pad.

Čini mi se da je  bilo na nekoj utakmici skoro da je sudija rekao igraču da je pao da bi svirao faul ali pošto nije onda je procenio da nije intenzitet dovoljno jak. Što je idiotski.

Poterbno je što manje ostaviti mesta za procenu. Recimo ako je ruka igrača na leđima ili boku protivnika i taj igrač napravi pokret rukom da odgurne protivnika od sebe bez namere da ide na loptu. To mora da je faul.

Druga stvar je kada igrač zagradi loptu i sprečava odbrambenog da dođe do nje, tu je rame u rame i ostali kontakti ok. Ono jče nije bio takav slučaj.

 

I da ne bude zabune. Uopšte ne oduzimam nimalo od pobede Liverpula. Ono juče je Totenhem izgubio ne zbog sudije. Stvar je u neujednačenom kriterijumu koji, zbog nejasnosti, pravila, svako može da tumači kako hoće pa onda maltene ista situacija u dva dana ima drugačiji ishod. Hajde onda pogledaj penal koji je juče De Brujneu svirao sudija upravo zato što je "možda" prestrogo dao crveni Kanselu. Da li je to više penal nego ono juče?

Ne može da bude: "Sudije često dozvoljavaju ovakav kontakt ove sezone" da bude ikakva argumentacija. Ili jeste ili nije.

 

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Ne znam brt šta da ti kažem, u maltene svakom sportu su sudije na terenu i mere duele, kontakte igrača i slično, i donose odluke na osnovu ličnog nahođenja šta je prekršaj, a šta nije. Dosta pomaže ako se neki sudija bavio sportom koji sudi jer može da oceni šta je pravi faul, a šta simuliranje. Sviranje svakog kontakta i gurkanja bi napravilo cirkus i to bi onda bio penalty fest, a ne fudbal. 

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Atletik je prvi objavio  da je Live na prodaju - vest u spojleru

 

Spoiler

Fenway Sports Group (FSG) has put Liverpool up for sale.

A full sales presentation has been produced for interested parties.

FSG has looked at opportunities in the past but decided against moving forward with them. It is unclear whether or not a deal will eventually be done, but FSG is inviting offers.

Goldman Sachs and Morgan Stanley have been retained to assist with the process.

A statement from FSG, who also own the Boston Red Sox, to The Athletic read: “There have been a number of recent changes of ownership and rumours of changes in ownership at EPL clubs and inevitably we are asked regularly about Fenway Sports Group’s ownership in Liverpool.

“FSG has frequently received expressions of interest from third parties seeking to become shareholders in Liverpool. FSG has said before that under the right terms and conditions we would consider new shareholders if it was in the best interests of Liverpool as a club.

“FSG remains fully committed to the success of Liverpool, both on and off the pitch.”

The group has owned Liverpool since October 2010, when it bought the club from George Gillett Jr. and Tom Hicks.

During that time, Liverpool appointed Jurgen Klopp as manager. They won their first Premier League title in 2019-20, which was also their first championship for 30 years. They also captured the FA Cup, Carabao Cup and the Champions League.

 

During FSG’s ownership Anfield has been transformed, with a new £110million Main Stand, while the Anfield Road Stand is being redeveloped. That £80m project will be completed next summer and boost capacity to around 61,000.

FSG has also overseen the club’s move from Melwood to a new £50m training facility in Kirkby.

It is principally owned by John W. Henry, who was one of two founders alongside chairman Tom Werner. FSG also own the Red Sox, television network NESN, 50 per cent of Roush Fenway Racing and Fenway Sports Management.

 

FSG sold an 11 per cent stake in the company for $750m (£655m) to RedBird Capital Partners last year and subsequently bought a controlling stake in top-flight NHL ice hockey team the Pittsburgh Penguins.

There have been controversial elements to FSG’s ownership of the club. In 2019, they were criticised after the club tried to trademark the name Liverpool, with supporters’ group Spirit of Shankly campaigning against the move.

Liverpool were also one of six Premier League sides to commit to the failed European Super League last year. After protests, they withdrew from the project. Henry apologised publicly to the fans.

When Werner spoke to The Athletic in May, he insisted FSG wasn’t going anywhere. He said: “Yes, we still see it as a long-term project. We are hungry to win more trophies for the club.”

The most recent takeover of a major Premier League side was the Todd Boehly-led purchase of Chelsea, which cost £2.5billion.

 

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Kad smo kod Athletica, ne znam kako sad funkcioniše za onaj trial period pošto već duže plaćam pretplatu, pa ako treba nekome da ga testira imam onih pet '30-day guest passes'.

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čudno je ovo jer reptili nikad ne prodaju eto tako bezveze. garant je osetio da će grafikon zaravnjati i oće cash out

nema super lige, propast je neizbežna

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3 hours ago, Mindaugas Žukauskas said:

Ne znam brt šta da ti kažem, u maltene svakom sportu su sudije na terenu i mere duele, kontakte igrača i slično, i donose odluke na osnovu ličnog nahođenja šta je prekršaj, a šta nije. Dosta pomaže ako se neki sudija bavio sportom koji sudi jer može da oceni šta je pravi faul, a šta simuliranje. Sviranje svakog kontakta i gurkanja bi napravilo cirkus i to bi onda bio penalty fest, a ne fudbal. 

 

Ovo apsolutno nije tačno.

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:blink:

 

Objasni nam kako se dolazi do procene šta je faul u duelu dva igrača? Postoji neka matematička formula ili sudija na osnovu subjektivnog osećaja donosi odluku uzevši sve faktore u obzir? Meni je stvarno nerealno da se o ovome diskutuje.

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