I kod mene jos nista. Ja na stranu, no cale spada u rizicnu grupu; moracu ponovo da ga prijavim.

Sa prijavama prvih dana su def nešto zabrljali.

44 minutes ago, harper said:

 

83% ljudi je dobilo tacno ono sto je trazilo. Vakcina ima, interesovanja za vakcinisanje nema. Na ovom forumu na kojem domira anti-Vucic i pro-vakcina sentiment valjda vise nema nikog ko se nije vakcinisao. Mozemo mi da kritikujemo vlast koliko hoces, cinjenica je da smo okruzeni stokom. Uostalom, da nismo ne bismo ni imali ovakvu vlast. Sad stoku treba vezati za rogove i vakcinisati kako god. Mozes misliti teoreticara ljudskih prava koji ce rodjenu majku a kamoli glas na izborima da prodaju za posao od 300 evra.

 

 

Kao onaj vic o coveku koji je umro od zedji u pustinji pored ogromnog pakovanja mleka ?

 

Zasto je umro?

 

Mleko je bilo u prahu.

 

 

Ne mogu da razumem, ne shvatam..i stize me ljutnja i bes. Javlja mi otac da mi je sestra od tetke zakacila kovid. Pitam ga u neverici, zar se ona nije vakcinisala ? Nije....

Pa zasto ? 

A jebiga..eto nije.

 

Kod njega u firmi, svi ovi mladji, stranacki zaposleni..niko da se vakcinise. Svi sa istim odgovorom "Zelim potomstvo". 

 

Vucicu imam mnogo sta da zamerim..ali ovo oko vakcinacije zaista ne mogu. Jedino da onih 30 eura uslovi potvrdom o vakcinaciji i da bilmeze lepo i jasno obelezi kao prostituke.

17 hours ago, roksi said:

 

 

pa ako si i ti u toj prici i ako si morao prosle godine preko noci da prebacis curriculum online, onda ne treba da ti objasnjavam koji je to podvig bio. 

(da ne idem u to koliko je ekstra neplacenog vremena bilo neophodno da se svi konci pohvataju, plus prepoznaju i fiksiraju razne slepe tacke tokom komplet godine)

 

da ponovim, posto izglada da mora, nije ovde rec o tome da je online nastava "cool" i da je sve super, vec o tome da je to jos jedna od neophodnih i privremenih mera u ovom trenutku i da moramo da navigujemo kroz istu kako znamo i umemo. nije idealna opcija ali ne znaci da dobri rezultati nisu moguci i da je katastrofalna po obrazovanje. to prosto nije tacno. i u sustini na taj nacin samo se salju preuvelicani (i pogresni), zastrasujuci signali roditeljima ili ljudima koji bi da u ovom trenutku upisu nesto. 

 

milsila sam na rezultate iz svog okruzenja - to mi je osnovni parametar jer mogu doslovce da uporedim radove iz prethodnih godina sa 2020. preponosna sam i na studente i na nas "kolektiv" da je takav horor od godine proizveo izuzetne rezultate. eto neskromo, odusevljena sam. koliko god je ta 2020 bila teska isto toliko je pokazala koliko smo zapravo zilavi i sposobni da se prilagodimo bilo cemu. dobra lekcija.

 

 

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ove godine radim kombinovano jednu klasu face-to-face i cetiri online. sada je jos rano, tek smo poceli ali kad se malo uhodamo imacu priliku da uporedim razvoj situacije (pogotovo jer su isti projekti u pitanju pa je direktno uporedivo). za sada i jedno ni drugo funkcionise dobro. naravno drugaciji su pristupi ali sada je tu vec i proslogodisnje iskustvo, pa je navigacija izmedju ta dva moda jasnija - s tim i lakse adaptirati delivery i interakciju da bi se izvuklo/dalo najvise).

 

 

 

nisam iz sfere nauke, pedagogije ili prosvete, ali sam sigurna da online kursevi nisu moguci za sve ... mogu samo da zamislim kako izgledaju online predavanja instrumetalista na akademijama, na glumi, reziji, stomatologiji, medicini, veterini, farmaciji, hemiji, mikro i molekularnoj biologiji, biologiji, fizici itd... tj na onim studijama kod kojih je praktican i labaratorijski rad neophodan... drustvenjaci, lingvisti neki matematicari, pravnici, ekonomisti, menadzment ... ok, ali je veci broj onih gde to gotovo i nije moguce, u najvecem i njima najbitnijim delovima nastave... mislim, znam i ja neke profesore drustvenih nauka koji iz zrenjanina drze online kurseve na inostranim univerzitetima gde su zaposleni, ali isto tako znam i koliko problema imaju doktoranti prirodnjackih struka na nekim zapadnim univerzitetima sa istrazivanjima i str. radovima i sl....(a koji tamo zive i studiraju)

samo da kazem - u srbiji danas 4634/28. u uk danas 4618/52

 

populacija srbije oko 7 miliona. populacija uk 66 miliona

 

lokdaun ne radi. vakcine ne rade.

 

sudbina

meni danas direktor nije odobrio da odem na godišnji odmor.

svi smo nagurani u open spejs, od danas je rečeno svima da dodju na posao.

pored mene sedi žena koja ne veruje u vakcine.

imam majku koja ne sme da primi vakcinu.

 

pritom se direktor, njegova kurva i još par poltrona i saučesnika u kriminalu mesecima dovoze na posao i odvoze sa posla službenim automobilima.

u firmi je ukupno revakcinisano 5 osoba.

 

onda dođem kući, glava me ubija i vidim da je preminuo i dragoljub đuričić od korone.

 

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@pt 2.0

 

Jel kod nas daju bolovanje zbog depresije ?

2 minutes ago, SNARC said:

@pt 2.0

 

Jel kod nas daju bolovanje zbog depresije ?

ne znam, nisam nikad bila klinički depresivna.

al valjda. pod uslovom da uspeš da dođeš do specijaliste koji će da te pregleda i postavi dijagnozu.

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Klizni sutra u 8

4 minutes ago, pt 2.0 said:

ne znam, nisam nikad bila klinički depresivna.

al valjda. pod uslovom da uspeš da dođeš do specijaliste koji će da te pregleda i postavi dijagnozu.

 

Secam se price kad su nasi u Danskoj otkrili da se na konto depre moze na bolovanje.

Ocas posla su mnogi psihicki zanemocali i pozalili se svom lekaru i farmaceutu..i za divno cudo, proslo im je. 

 

Vredi pokusaja ako te vec guraju direktno u problem.

1 hour ago, Lancia said:

El Pais o Srbiji.

 

Deepl prevod.
 

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THE CORONAVIRUS CRISIS

 

Multi-sided geopolitics makes Serbia a global vaccination success story

 

The EU candidate country inoculates its citizens with drugs developed by Western powers as well as Russia and China, in a reflection of its multi-pronged foreign policy.

 

ANTONIO PITA
Madrid - 15 MAR 2021 - 09:00 CET

 

In Serbia no one calculates which vaccine they will get. Its citizens simply mark on a digital form which one they prefer to receive. Or they indicate that they don't care which one, which usually brings their turn forward in a rapid process that has made the country sixth in the world according to the Our World in Data comparative table, led by Israel. It also has the second highest vaccinated population per 100 people in Europe, according to the data in this list. Some 28.8% of Serbs have received at least one dose and it is the fourth most vaccinated state in the last seven days, far from the attention attracted by the United Kingdom (37.1%, third in the world and first in Europe) by linking with the Brexit the progress of its program. The EU average is at 10.9%.

 

A glance at the four boxes on the Serbian form reveals much of the geopolitical underbelly of success. They correspond to the vaccine developed by the American Pfizer with the German BioNTech, the Anglo-Swedish giant AstraZeneca, the Chinese Sinopharm vaccine and the Russian Sputnik V vaccine. In other words, two Western companies approved by the EU and two of the EU's strategic rivals, which have not yet been approved by the European Medicines Agency (EMA).

 

This diversity is neither accidental nor does Belgrade miss the opportunity to stand out. Symbolically, the head of government, Ana Brnabic, trained in the United States, became last December the first European leader to be inoculated with the Pfizer-BioNTech drug, while the Russophile head of Internal Affairs, Aleksandar Vulin, opted for Sputnik V and the head of Health, Zlatibor Loncar, for the more questionable Sinopharm drug.

With a population of seven million, Serbia has recorded half a million cases and 4,644 deaths from covid. Vaccination began last January and the official message is that it has been able to focus on the purely health dimension of the campaign thanks to a multi-pronged foreign policy that frees it from geostrategic corsets. It is a European country negotiating EU membership, but also one of the few Balkan states outside NATO (the organization that bombed it two decades ago) with Russia and China (which has invested €4 billion there since 2011) as allies. Both block the UN membership of Kosovo - the former Serbian province that unilaterally declared its independence in 2008 - thanks to its permanent seat on the Security Council.

 

The paradox is that the presumed apoliticism of vaccination has been very political indeed. The president, Aleksandar Vucic, has claimed that some vaccines "coming from the East are even safer than those coming from the West" and that he has seen reports from Western intelligence services admitting that the Chinese one is better. "Vucic, [Vladimir] Putin and Xi [Jinping] are saving Serbia," even headlined a tabloid that, like everyone else in the country, supports the government.

 

Serbia will be the first European country to produce Sputnik V, starting in May, and Sinopharm's drug, starting in October, in a factory that it will build together with China and the United Arab Emirates. These drugs will be sold "even at cost price" to other countries in the region, the president said last Thursday.

 

A year ago, when the EU left out of its anti-pandemic strategy the part of the Balkans that is not in the Union, Vucic called European solidarity a "fairy tale" that "only exists on paper" and the streets of the country were filled with flags and posters thanking Xi. The president has also accused the developed countries of buying extra doses "as if they wanted to vaccinate all their dogs and cats" and behaving like the rich in the sinking of the Titanic, "preparing expensive lifeboats while those of us who are not rich, the small ones, like the countries of the Western Balkans, sink together". A discourse that fuels that most Serbs today believe that the main donor to their country is Beijing when it is still by far the EU. "I know there is a diplomatic battle going on over vaccines in Serbia," admitted last February the head of EU diplomacy, Josep Borrell. "It seems we are not so good at propaganda."

 

Donations in the region

 

Success has allowed Belgrade to score diplomatic points in the region. Last December it announced the distribution of vaccines in the Serb-majority north of Kosovo, while the rest of the country remained without them, although it eventually backtracked because of the controversy generated. It has donated 4,680 doses to North Macedonia, 2,000 to Montenegro and 10,000 to the Bosniac and Croat-majority entity of Bosnia, a quarter of a century after the war. "I am happy that we can save lives [...] Serbia is acting as a friend and a neighbor," Vucic said at the handover ceremony at Sarajevo airport on the 2nd. Sefik Dzaferovic, one of the members of the Bosnian tripartite presidency present there, stated, "When multilateral mechanisms failed, President Vucic made an offer, we accepted it and I thank him again for that."

 

"Donations to neighboring countries are the biggest public relations element, building Vucic's image as a strong regional leader," Majda Ruge, senior analyst at the think tank European Council on Foreign Relations, notes by email. "Regionally there is a perception that the EU has again failed its closest neighborhood. The information that it is stockpiling 10 million unused vaccines does not help improve this perception." Seven days after Vucic got his juicy newspaper headline in Sarajevo, Bosnian Foreign Minister Bisera Turkovic, at a press conference in Berlin with her German counterpart Heiko Maas, expressed the "rightful dissatisfaction" of her citizens for not having received "a single" dose through Covax - an international mechanism for developing countries to access the vaccine - despite having paid for 1.2 million doses in advance. Bosnia - where vaccination has started only in the Serbian entity, with Sputnik V also donated by Belgrade - resumed partial containment at the beginning of the month due to hospital saturation and registered a record number of cases last Tuesday. Also North Macedonia, with 70% of infections by the British strain, has reinstated the curfew.

 

The Serbian miracle in vaccination may now, however, run up against misinformation. There are still millions of its citizens who have not registered for the injection, in a region where "most do not plan to be vaccinated" and the visibility of pandemic conspiracy theories is "surprisingly high," according to a report last December by the BiEPAG research group, formed by the European Balkans Fund and the Center for South European Studies at the University of Graz (Austria). The progress of the campaign has also been accompanied by an upturn in infections, partly due to a relaxation in compliance with restrictions, as acknowledged by the director of the World Health Organization in Serbia, Marian Ivanusa.

 

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dal je moguce da je omiljen ostao jedan i sam na top listi, ko shto mu ime kaze? idi negde gde je fri, dok ovaj nije digao botove, nemoj chekati.

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@pt 2.0

Mislim da ako odeš kod doktora opšte prakse i izložiš situaciju, mislim da će ti bez problema dati bolovanje od jedno dve nedelje, i ona će znati šta da napiše.
Znam da je to realno moljakanje "da se zažmuri na jedno oko", ali ovo je prevršilo svaku meru.

.... Shiit has hit the fan!

15 minutes ago, renne said:

Klizni sutra u 8

neka mi popuse milokliznog bas...