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1 hour ago, vememah said:

Fußball-Bundesliga: Stadium visits without consistent mask obligation led to more infections


Ko bi rekao...

 

Zvacemo ga Bundes-talas

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Koliko je bilo price oko juznoafrickog soja koji je zajebao vakcinu a nikoga nisam cuo da ce zbog manje infektivnosti biti irelevantan. Evo sada se desava potpuno suprotno.

Infektivnija varianta koja nije toliko zajebala vakcinu podize ljestvicu cijele epidemije za dodatnih 15%-20% vakcinisanih.

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On 11.6.2021. at 18:26, vememah said:

Ceo niz:

 

 

 

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Jos jednom na istu temu...Nasa sam dalje ovaj niz, lepo objasnjava ove cifre...

 

I da, da me ne shavtis pogresno... nisam mislio licno na tebe da dodas  informaciju, vec samo da mi je sam tvit nekako suv bez toga...

 

 

 

 

P.S. ako imas neke jasne statistike kako vakcine rade svoj posao, bio bih ti zahvalan... u raznim zemljama, razne vakcine...Mislim mogu da potrazim, ali ti si nekako kao enciklopedija ovde..)

 

 

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Timestamps:
00:00 Introductions
02:20 This must be discussed
03:13 Will herd immunity be reached?
07:58 Spike protein is very dangerous 
13:45 FDA knew it could be toxic if it didn't stay stuck
18:09 Vaccine sufferers censored
23:26 Reviewing the FDA data package 
26:41 Corners were cut
27:52 Steve looking at VAERS
32:37 Robert's friends at the FDA and the emergency use authorisation
37:38 Risk benefit and quality life years
40:18 Alternative to vaccines
44:19 Mask wearing RCT
45:28 Three anomalies around vaccines
46:05 Fluvoxamine trials
51:00 Two million dollar offer and the NIH
52:13 Robert's view of the NIH
53:00 Regulatory capture
54:41 Fauci's emails
56:30 Merck on Ivermectin
59:24 Emergent phenomenon
01:01:42 Vaccine deaths
01:03:24 Tess Lawrie's vaccine safety data
01:04:43 Difference between the gene therapy vaccines
01:06:40 Self reported deaths from vaccines
01:09:18 Adverse reactions
01:17:12 Robert on V-safe database
01:19:30 Social media censorship
01:22:20 Steve's experience with denial
01:24:17 Two teams
01:28:20 "Don't come back until your lips are blue"
01:30:52 "Treat people early with drugs"
01:32:11 Ignoring frontline doctors
01:35:39 Financial incentives
01:37:28 Response to demand for RCT on ivermectin
01:38:39 Robert's personal experience with repurposing drugs
01:40:52 Mink and ferrets lab research
01:43:53 Robert on animal model for COVID treatment
01:46:33 Ivermectin works
01:49:13 Repurposing drugs
01:52:17 Doctors ignoring treatments
01:55:31 Effective treatments for long haulers
01:56:45 Robert's response on incentives and hospital liability
02:01:42 Additional antiviral and Gilead overlooking it
02:03:13 Communication is forbidden
02:04:53 Using antivirals as soon as virus presents
02:06:41 Multiple drugs at once and Dr Drew
02:11:02 Trials with drug combinations
02:13:53 Criticism of Fauci and mechanisms of action for ivermectin
02:17:35 Pfizer data on where the vaccine spike protein goes
02:20:42 Spike protein in the ovaries and bone marrow
02:22:12 FDA signals of risk from vaccines and auto-immune issues
02:27:41 Bret summarises and discusses additional harms
02:28:31 Vaccines possibly causing escape mutants
02:31:56 Antibody dependent enhancement (ADE)
02:38:19 Why did Robert and Steve get vaccinated?
02:40:54 Summary of risks including coagulation problems
02:42:41 FDA, thalidomide, and reproductive toxicity
02:48:12 Vaccinating adolescents
02:50:00 Steve on vaccinating his children and the response he receives
02:56:38 Don't be a pioneer, you'll get arrows in the ass
03:00:01 Extended regulatory capture
03:01:10 Can Elon Musk save the planet?
03:05:17 Pharmaceutical industry offshore
03:08:59 Steve's solution, plea to big tech employees, and vaccine long haulers
03:13:41 Robert speaking to big tech employees
03:15:55 Wrap up

 

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Ne, nego (R0-1)/R0. I to obuhvata i preležale koji još uvek imaju imunitet, ne samo vakcinisane.

 

https://academic.oup.com/cid/article/52/7/911/299077

https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-020-02948-4

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herd_immunity

 

Da vidimo sad kako to izgleda ako uzmemo srednje vrednosti gornjih procena:

 

Originalni soj: R0 = 2,5 -> prag imunih za kolektivni imunitet 60%

Evropski soj s početka epidemije: R0=3 -> prag imunih za kolektivni imunitet 67%

Britanski alfa soj: R0=4,5 -> prag imunih za kolektivni imunitet 78%

Indijski delta soj: R0=6,5 -> prag imunih za kolektivni imunitet 85%

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Cim se pojavio simptom curenja nosa za ovaj novi soj to je znak da ovaj virus ide polako u pravcu kijavice :)

 

Inace, verujem da je sa koronom gotovo ove jeseni. Nema sanse da ova jesen bude i priblizno kao ona prosla.

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Kažu po zadnjem izveštaju PHE u Engleskoj 126% više, a u Škotskoj 85%.
 

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England
Using stratified Cox proportional hazard regression, there was a significantly increased risk of hospitalisation within 14 days of specimen date (HR 2.26, 95% CI 1.32-3.89, p=0.003), and emergency care attendance or hospitalisation within 14 days (HR 1.45,95% CI 1.08-1.95, p=0.015), for Delta cases compared to Alpha cases after adjustment for confounders (age, sex, ethnicity, area of residence, index of multiple deprivation, week of specimen date, vaccination status and international travel within 14 days prior to specimen date).

Scotland
There was an increased hazard ratio of hospitalisation for those who were S-gene positive* compared with those with S gene target failure** (1.85, 95% 1.39 to 2.47).

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/993198/Variants_of_Concern_VOC_Technical_Briefing.pdf

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Kažu po zadnjem izveštaju PHE u Engleskoj 126% više, a u Škotskoj 85%.
 
England
Using stratified Cox proportional hazard regression, there was a significantly increased risk of hospitalisation within 14 days of specimen date (HR 2.26, 95% CI 1.32-3.89, p=0.003), and emergency care attendance or hospitalisation within 14 days (HR 1.45,95% CI 1.08-1.95, p=0.015), for Delta cases compared to Alpha cases after adjustment for confounders (age, sex, ethnicity, area of residence, index of multiple deprivation, week of specimen date, vaccination status and international travel within 14 days prior to specimen date).
Scotland
There was an increased hazard ratio of hospitalisation for those who were S-gene positive* compared with those with S gene target failure** (1.85, 95% 1.39 to 2.47).
https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/993198/Variants_of_Concern_VOC_Technical_Briefing.pdf
Bilo bi interesantno videti koliko su u tom procentu zastupljeni Azijati...

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