Passcard Posted March 17, 2020 Posted March 17, 2020 16 minutes ago, Caligula said: Kakav crni pik sa 800 mrtvih (prijavljenih? Zar nije mnogo manje prijavljenih)... pakao. Jebeno neverovatno, kao da smo svi ribice pa ne umemo da saberemo i izvucemo procenat. To je ono što i ja uzimam sa rezervom ali mi druge podatke jednostavno nemamo. Ne znam ni sam kako da protumačim da Fr već nekoliko dana unazad stoji sa 12 total recovered. Sigurno je da se brojevi negde ne uklapaju i sigurno je da postoje razlozi za tim.
Spooky Posted March 17, 2020 Posted March 17, 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, Filozof manijak said: U pravu je to za mobilni fon kao izvor zaraze. Što ga manje drndati dok se kreće napolju Stručnjaci kaću baš i ne https://www.wsj.com/articles/should-you-clean-your-phone-to-combat-coronavirus-definitely-maybe-11584018237 Ljudi malo brkaju sve ono što su učili generalno o sredstvima higijene i zaštiti od bakterija, pa primenjuju na ovaj virus, ali to baš nema smisla... Virusi su izvan organizma inertni, ne kreću se (na svoj pogon), ne razmnoćavaju se, samo polako umiru... Znači iako je telefon pogodan za razvoj bakterija jer je mahom na toplom, u dzepu i sl, na njemu ce se naci samo oni virusi sa vase ruke, ako kihnete na njega i sl, ali zbog teksture mnogo manje nego na vasim rukama... Isto je sa dezinfekcijom - nema puno smisla panično prati ruke na svakih 10 minuta dok ste kući... Niti često prati podove, zidove stanova (pričam o kućama, ne o javnim prostorima). Mislim cela ta priča o indirektnom prenosu je preuvelicana - ne verujem da je vise od 1% infekcija na taj nacin (u smislu da je primalac infekcije bio u prostoriji nakon odlaska davalaca)... Često se pominje da je u najvećem slučaju bio značajan kontakt - u smislu preko 15 minuta i sl.. Da, virus može puno da preživi satima, ali u principu mora da unesemo mnogo virusa da bi se zarazili, jer virus treba da nadje put do ciljane ćelije pre nego zaluta, ili ga ubije imuni sistem... Edited March 17, 2020 by Spooky
Mr.Mxyzptlk Posted March 17, 2020 Posted March 17, 2020 na nbg sirena za uzbunu ne znam sta predstavlja
cedo Posted March 17, 2020 Posted March 17, 2020 (edited) makedoniji u samoizolaciji ima 173 lica u skoplju, 13 bitolj, 16 tetovo, 82 ohrid, 12 strumica, 6 kumanovo i 8 stip mup ih nadgleda sve, a u toku noci je napravljeno sedam prekrsaja mere samoizolacije i podnesene su krivicne prijave protiv tih lica izjavio mup Edited March 17, 2020 by cedo
renne Posted March 17, 2020 Posted March 17, 2020 3 minutes ago, extragluv said: na nbg sirena za uzbunu ne znam sta predstavlja ništa nisam čuo
kud u maglu Simoviću Posted March 17, 2020 Posted March 17, 2020 4 minutes ago, renne said: ništa nisam čuo +1
Dankan Ajdaho Posted March 17, 2020 Posted March 17, 2020 1 hour ago, barrcode said: Šef Robert Koch instituta, glavnog nemačkog epidemiološkog centra računa da će pandemija trajati tu negde oko 2 godine. Kad napisah ovo pre neki dan (na osnovu sabiranja 2+2), optužen sam da širim paniku a post obrisan.
Ravanelli Posted March 17, 2020 Posted March 17, 2020 (edited) dobar članak sa bloomberga Europe’s Doctors Repeat Errors Made in Wuhan, China Medics Say 1 Key among them is inadequate protection for medical workers, leading to a high infection rate among doctors and nurses. In Wuhan, a lack of understanding of the disease and a shortage of protective equipment in the early weeks of the outbreak in January led to thousands of health-care workers being infected while treating patients. At least 46 have died. 2 From Italy to the U.S., countries are reporting a shortage of protective medical supplies like masks in hospitals, while the rapidly growing patient load is overwhelming doctors and nurses. The highly-contagious nature of the virus means that it has shown signs of being transmitted in unusual ways, like through the eyes. In Wuhan, ear, nose and throat (ENT) and eye doctors were infected at higher rates than colleagues in the same hospitals, Du Bin, director of the intensive care unit at Peking Union Medical College Hospital, said at the same briefing. Unlike previous pandemics like the 2003 one caused by SARS, the coronavirus causes only mild or even no symptoms in some infected people at first, which means they’re unknowingly spreading the virus to others. Administering nucleic acid tests, which identify the virus’ genetic sequence in patient samples, is essential, said the doctors. “Test, test, test,” said Du. “Apart from testing, I just have no idea how you can identify the suspected cases, and how to quarantine the close contacts.” Testing has become a barometer of competence for the world’s governments and health-care systems. The U.S. government is facing widespread public anger for the slow roll-out of tests, while nations from Indonesia to India are being criticized for not testing much at all. South Korea, which had the second-biggest number of cases in Asia, has gotten its epidemic under control largely through testing tens of thousands of people daily. Adults, Kids While the population most at risk is over 60, children can be infected by Covid-19 and some cases have been fatal, the head of the World Health Organization said at a briefing Monday. Adults are 2.7 times more likely to get the disease than children, according to a study published in the Nature Medicine journal on Monday of 745 children and 3,174 adults. Most of the infected kids had close contact with confirmed patients or were part of family clusters. Du said the majority of children infected have only mild symptoms, and all have survived so far. In the Journal of the American Medical Association, another study showed that among nine infants, none required intensive care or had severe complications. “Every nation has its own COVID-19 situation. We are not saying this is China’s example and you should follow, we totally respect that you take your own actions,” said Wu, “But everyone of us should take it seriously, take necessary actions, change your behavior, and be responsible.” https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-03-17/europe-s-doctors-getting-sick-like-in-wuhan-chinese-doctors-say?srnd=premium-europe Edited March 17, 2020 by Ravanelli
beeva Posted March 17, 2020 Posted March 17, 2020 fond zdravstva u B Luci raspušten, kod par njih otkrivena korona, inače ignorisali do zadnjeg i nisu ih puštali kućama.
cedo Posted March 17, 2020 Posted March 17, 2020 Just now, beeva said: fond zdravstva u B Luci raspušten, kod par njih otkrivena korona, inače ignorisali do zadnjeg i nisu ih puštali kućama. brat mi se javlja na neka cetiri telefona i nitko mu se ne javlja. sedi u samoizolaciji tri dana imas li neke telefone za BL ?
beeva Posted March 17, 2020 Posted March 17, 2020 051/247-368, dostupan od 07 do 15 časova, 065/965-191, dostupan od 07 časova do ponoći), 066/409-241, dostupan od 07 do 22 časa, 066/409-359, dostupan od 07 do 22 časa, 066/409-230, dostupan od 07 do 22 časa. ali ako nema upalu pluća dzaba sve, nema pregleda, takvo upuststvo, Inače ispred infektivne u BL stavljaju kontejnere za pregled..
cedo Posted March 17, 2020 Posted March 17, 2020 Just now, beeva said: 051/247-368, dostupan od 07 do 15 časova, 065/965-191, dostupan od 07 časova do ponoći), 066/409-241, dostupan od 07 do 22 časa, 066/409-359, dostupan od 07 do 22 časa, 066/409-230, dostupan od 07 do 22 časa. ali ako nema upalu pluća dzaba sve, nema pregleda, takvo upuststvo, Inače ispred infektivne u BL stavljaju kontejnere za pregled.. hvala
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