Coronavirus Covid-19 - opšta tema

[steins]

 
Jel ima neko objasnjenje za blag (nikakav) odgovor engleske na krizu? 
Jesu li oni kao u keep calm and carry on fazonu? 

Pa ovo što ti piše u dokumentu.
Ima dva načina kako ovo da se reši, jedan je azijski stil, a drugi je da se pokriju ušima i da čekaju pa ko preživi neka priča sa nadom u, nedokazani, heard immunity, što radi Evropa.
Razlika je u tome što se smatra da je ovaj model jeftiniji

Послато са Mi 9T помоћу Тапатока

[Ravanelli]

Bogte jebo

Pa to je eksperiment javnog zdravlja

Koje ludilo

[vememah]

10 minutes ago, steins said:

Razlika je u tome što se smatra da je ovaj model jeftiniji

  

Vaistinu jeftiniji, kineska berza je pala za 10% u odnosu na početak godine, a zapadnoevropske za po 30-40%, okačio sam na temi o lovi.

 

 

Edited March 16, 2020 by vememah

[vememah]

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Coronavirus: More young patients being admitted to hospital, Italian doctor warns

Over 17,600 people are infected by Covid-19 in Europe’s worst-hit country

Zoe Tidman
Saturday 14 March 2020 17:30 

Italians admitted to hospital for coronavirus are getting younger, a health official has claimed. 

“The type of patient is changing,” Luca Lorini, the head of anaesthesia and intensive care at a northern Italian hospital, has said. 

“They are a bit younger, between 40 to 45 years old and the cases are more complicated.”

Dr Lorini, who works at a hospital in Bergamo, told radio programme RaiNews24: ”People are arriving who got ill six or seven days ago and treated themselves at home – and then their conditions became more and more critical.” 

Twelve per cent of those who have been treated in intensive care are aged between 19 and 50, according to official figures released last week. Around 52 per cent are between 51 and 70 years old, with the rest all over 70. 

Recently, hospitals in Lombardy have seen people aged between 25 and 50 diagnosed with Covid-19 and subsequently hospitalised for treatment, according to local media reports. 

“Even if the data is only preliminary, the fact there are more young people hospitalised and in intensive care compared to the first wave can be interpreted as a natural phenomenon,” Pierluigi Lopalco, a professor from Pisa University, told Italian newspaper Il Corriere della Sera. 

“In Italy, the first clusters of the infection started around hospitals, more commonly frequented by older people, and in small towns,” he said.

“Now the virus has spread, it is travelling around the whole country way more and it is younger people, with lots of social contact, that are more at risk of contracting the disease if they do not stick to the rules of social distancing.” 

The whole of Italy has been placed in lockdown as confirmed cases of Covid-19 have soared. 

More than 1,400 people who tested positive for coronavirus have died in Europe’s worst-hit country, with 21,157 infections to date.

Coronavirus – a flu-like disease which can develop into pneumonia – has been called a pandemic by the World Health Organisation. 

 

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/coronavirus-italy-update-young-people-hospital-luca-lorini-bergamo-a9402531.html

Edited March 16, 2020 by vememah

[theanswer]

53 minutes ago, dùda said:

jbg, ostaje jedino ako osetimo simptome, zapucati u kinu 

 

ne daju, drugar jedan već hteo da se vrati 

Edited March 16, 2020 by theanswer

[Skyhighatrist]

 

...a taman su se zaigrali

[Tihajeza]

3 hours ago, Dankan Ajdaho said:

Ćerkina firma (arhitektura, dizajn) od sutra ili prekosutra prelazi na rad od kuće. Najveći problem - svi programi su licencirani, rešavanje daljinskog pristupa...

 

Moja firma (takođe arhitektonska) će to rešiti tako što će svako svoj računar pod mišku i odneti ga kući da radi na njemu.

[maheem]

12 minutes ago, Skyhighatrist said:

 

...a taman su se zaigrali

Još da ih pohapse zbog objave

[vememah]

 

[Budja]

Kod nas od juce lock-down.

Sve zatvoreno, osim apoteka, radnji za potrepstine i kafana ali samo za kucnu dostavu.

Svrljanje vozilom koje niju u svrhu odlaska na posao ili nabavku, zabranjeno.

 

Policija ima pune ruke posla tokom vikenda rasturajuci rodjendanske zabave, godisnjice,  i tako to.

 

Iz epicentra epidemije krenulo za vikend 50 autobusa na plazu. Proculo se tviterom, policija vratila autobuse nazad.

 

[ZerrorR]

8 minutes ago, Budja said:

Kod nas od juce lock-down.

Sve zatvoreno, osim apoteka, radnji za potrepstine i kafana ali samo za kucnu dostavu.

Svrljanje vozilom koje niju u svrhu odlaska na posao ili nabavku, zabranjeno.

 

Policija ima pune ruke posla tokom vikenda rasturajuci rodjendanske zabave, godisnjice,  i tako to.

 

Iz epicentra epidemije krenulo za vikend 50 autobusa na plazu. Proculo se tviterom, policija vratila autobuse nazad.

 

Turska?

[Krošek]

49 minutes ago, Braća Strugacki said:

Да ли је неко негде налетео на више података о третману заражених помоћу лека tocilizumab?

 

 

 

da, citao sam neki clanak o leku, i sad kad sam proverio prica se o tome leu

https://www.vox.com/2020/3/12/21176783/coronavirus-covid-19-deaths-china-treatment-cytokine-storm-syndrome

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Recently, a number of specific anti-cytokine approaches have proven effective in treating a variety of cytokine storm syndromes, including those triggered by viruses. These include drugs targeting interleukin-1 (IL-1), IL-6, IL-18, and interferon-gamma. While randomized trials will be needed to confirm which, if any, of these therapeutics will effectively treat Covid-19-infected patients with cytokine storm syndrome, IL-6 blockade has recently been reported to be in use in China with successful outcomes in some individuals receiving this as part of their treatment.

 

linkovani clanak https://www.fiercepharma.com/pharma-asia/china-turns-roche-arthritis-drug-actemra-against-covid-19-new-treatment-guidelines

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Actemra doesn’t directly kill the novel coronavirus, now dubbed SARS-CoV-2. It’s known as an inhibitor of the receptor of interleukin 6 (IL-6), a proinflammatory cytokine. In the disease COVID-19, the body may respond to the pathogen by overproducing immune cells and their signaling molecules in a dangerous phenomenon called cytokine storm. Similar lung inflammation happened in SARS patients during the 2003 outbreak, mainly in China.

USTC scientists and other research groups have recently fingered IL-6 as a main culprit in that immune overreaction among COVID-19 patients, hence the Actemra clinical trial. In 2017, the FDA also greenlighted Actemra to treat cytokine release syndrome—a form of cytokine storm—caused by CAR-T treatment.

In its previous treatment guidelines, Chinese authorities have already included elevated IL-6 level as an indicator of disease worsening. And in its current update, Actemra’s use is limited to patients with that marker.

 

dakle koristi se za taj tip slucaja, lek pomaze samo da ti spasi zivot kad ti imuni sistem podivlja, ali ne pomaze u fazi upale pluca bez te vrste komplikacije. ali eto, u izvesnom smislu postoji lek. 

 

edit: actemra = tocilizumab

Edited March 16, 2020 by Krošek

[cedo]

Just now, ZerrorR said:

Turska?

 

Ekvador ako se ne varam

[Jean-Luc Picard]

5 minutes ago, ZerrorR said:

Turska?

Kolumbija ili Ekvador..tako nešto.

[Aleksija]

57 minutes ago, vememah said:

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/coronavirus-italy-update-young-people-hospital-luca-lorini-bergamo-a9402531.html

jbte, sta ovo moze da znaci?

nova mutacija - ili je italiju sad preplavila agresivnija od one dve navodno do sada poznate mutacije?

ili je uzrok ono sto je vec utvrdjeno - sto je veca kolicina virusa kojoj si izlozen, to je bolest teza - a izgleda da je italija sad bukvalno cela maksimalno kontaminirana.

ali je bas nejasno, ajde sto se tice sirenja, neozbiljno ponasanje, puno turista... ali tesko oboljevanje... ne znam.

 

sta se desava sa iranom, ima li neko neki informativan link?

 

Edited March 16, 2020 by Aleksija