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Venecuela

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2 minutes ago, Emerald said:

To je Tramp rekao a ne ja. Mozda ti imas neke druge informacije.

Delcy Rodriguez je navodno sada u Moskvi i sa njom je pricao Rubio, po recima Trampa.

Dobro pasha. Baš je Tramp iskren i nikad ne lupa gluposti.

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1 minute ago, dragance said:

Dobro pasha. Baš je Tramp iskren i nikad ne lupa gluposti.

Pasha?

Onda to mora da se prosiri na celu pricu oko dogadjanja u Venecueli npr. da oni kontrolisu Venecuelu sa svojim ljudima u Venecueli. U to verujes?

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12 minutes ago, Peter Fan said:

Mozeh da pojasnis ovo?

Odake SAD da protimaju tehnologiju, kad su vec ovladali istom? Masovnost / kapaciteti su druga stvar.

Nisam se dobro izrazio.

"Preuzimaju primat u tehnologiji" bolje izrazava ono sto sam hteo da napisem.

Verujem da je Maduro (i Chavez vec odavno - jer je, jel'te mrtav) i njihova tezga odavno zavrsila sa rokom upotrebe, i da su sva ova sranja sa drogom (koja su samo izgovor, naravno) posledica toga sto vlast nema priliva svezeg novca. Nije da to nismo gledali kod nas. Vrhuska generala i vojske hoce samo da sacuva svoj uticaj, a ostali ce malo da se igraju vlasti, pa tako u krug, osim ako se ne desi cudo i Venecuela se preporodi.

Ko je sledeći, šta mislite?

Jer ovaj debil teško da će "ispusti priliku".

Pošto mu Ukrajina nešto ne šljaka...

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must be peaceful, democratic, and respectful of the will of the Venezuelan people.

We wish that President Edmundo González Urrutia, elected in 2024, can swiftly ensure this transition.

I am currently exchanging with our partners in the region.

France is fully mobilized and vigilant, including to ensure the safety of its nationals during these uncertain times.

https://x.com/EmmanuelMacron/status/2007525386977194040

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8 hours ago, Marcus Wulffings said:

Ok, da li je Colombia sledeća na redu?

Ja sam načuo da je sledeća na redu Saudijska Arabija, savršeno se uklapa u profil, despotija + bogata naftom, zreli za demokratiju.

Dakle, Makron je prepustio degolisticki teren Marini.

The “red regime” of Nicolás Maduro rightly attracts many legitimate criticisms on democratic grounds. Millions of Venezuelans have suffered under this bloodthirsty and merciless dictatorship, which has stripped the opposition of political rights and kept the country trapped in an interminable economic crisis. No one will regret its end.

That said, respect for international law and for States’ sovereignty cannot be applied inconsistently. The external overthrow of a government by force cannot be an acceptable response, as it would only worsen the geopolitical instability of our time.

In this context, France must learn the lessons of its strategic and geopolitical vulnerability. It is vital to undertake—as we advocate—a determined effort to rearm our nation, to strengthen our industrial and military capabilities, and to restore a diplomatic network weakened by Emmanuel Macron. In this way, France should finally fully assume the defense of its interests and make its voice heard on the international stage as an independent one, respectful of sovereignty.

At this stage, we can only call for the Venezuelan people to be given back their voice as soon as possible, so that they can emerge from this major crisis through a free, transparent, and fair democratic process.

8 minutes ago, Frank Pembleton said:

Ko je sledeći, šta mislite?

Jer ovaj debil teško da će "ispusti priliku".

Pošto mu Ukrajina nešto ne šljaka...

Sledeca drzava koja ce biti konfiskovana je Tajvan..

Ako mislimo samo na one od strane US..mislim da se ovde zavrsava. Ne pada mi na pamet neka drzava da ima nesto dragoceno i skupo a da je sa njima na neprijateljskoj nozi. Iran ne racunam, oni ce sami svoje da zavrse.

3 minutes ago, Budja said:

Diplomatski: nije dobo sta se radi, ali ja se okrecem obavezama u domacem prvenstvu.

10 minutes ago, Budja said:

Nisam se dobro izrazio.

"Preuzimaju primat u tehnologiji" bolje izrazava ono sto sam hteo da napisem.

OK, to sad ima vise smisla mada bi se i za preuzimanjem primata moglo diskutovati.

A pitanje je i mogucnosti. Da je recimo Kina u mogucnosti da preuzme neku trulu banana drzavu (see what I did there), da li bi propustili tu sansu? Vjerovatno ne bi, ali nije ni 100% iskljuceno.

No, da ne skrecem previse sa teme.

3 minutes ago, Forest said:

Ja sam načuo da je sledeća na redu Saudijska Arabija, savršeno se uklapa u profil, despotija + bogata naftom, zreli za demokratiju.

Na stranu ovaj novi moment, sta god da bude nadam se nekom poboljsanju za Venecuelance, a momenat da proglase neku zemlju za nedemokratsku indvadiraju je svrgnu diktatora i posle malo cerupaju prirodna bogatstva je bas onako sejm old.

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l’aspirazione del popolo venezuelano a una transizione democratica.

Coerentemente con la storica posizione dell’Italia, il Governo reputa che l’azione militare esterna non sia la strada da percorrere per mettere fine ai regimi totalitari, ma considera al contempo legittimo un intervento di natura difensiva contro attacchi ibridi alla propria sicurezza, come nel caso di entità statuali che alimentano e favoriscono il narcotraffico.

Continuiamo a seguire con particolare attenzione la situazione della comunità italiana in Venezuela, la cui sicurezza costituisce la priorità assoluta del Governo.

Prevod:

I have followed the developments in Venezuela since the very first evolutions.

Italy, together with the main international partners, has never recognized Maduro's self-proclaimed electoral victory, condemning the regime's acts of repression and has always supported the Venezuelan people's aspiration to a democratic transition.

Consistent with Italy's historic position, the Government believes that external military action is not the path to take to put an end to totalitarian regimes, but at the same time considers legitimate an intervention of a defensive nature against hybrid attacks on its own security, as in the case of state entities that fuel and favor narcotrafficking.

We continue to follow with particular attention the situation of the Italian community in Venezuela, whose security constitutes the Government's absolute priority.

https://x.com/GiorgiaMeloni/status/2007515442705838275

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