BrExit?

[Marvin (Paranoid Android)]

9 minutes ago, vememah said:

Cabinet sources say the seven hours of meetings in Downing Street were at times fractious and bad tempered. It is understood that 14 ministers, including Liz Truss, Andrea Leadsom and Gavin Williamson, opposed a long extension to leaving the EU and 10 were in favour, including chancellor Philip Hammond, who made the case for a second referendum.

 

Ja i dalje ne verujem da je Lizz Truss ministar koji odlučuje bilo šta o bilo čemu da se ljudska glupost meri gustinom, ona bi bila tačka singulariteta pre velikog praska.

 

Gavin Williamson, what a slimy cunt.

 

Ovo zaista ima ambicije da ide na leadership bid:

 

 

[Anduril]

Busi Torije, busim ha, ha, ha, busi. 

[Marvin (Paranoid Android)]

Prilično dobar članak. Naslov je bombastičan, ali antrfile je najbolja subliminacija celog ovog poduhvata:

 

The United Kingdom Has Gone Mad

The problem with holding out for a perfect Brexit plan is that you can’t fix stupid.
 

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LONDON — Politico reported the other day that the French European affairs minister, Nathalie Loiseau, had named her cat “Brexit.” Loiseau told the Journal du Dimanche that she chose the name because “he wakes me up every morning meowing to death because he wants to go out, and then when I open the door he stays in the middle, undecided, and then gives me evil looks when I put him out.”

If you can’t take a joke you shouldn’t have come to London right now, because there is political farce everywhere. In truth, though, it’s not very funny. It’s actually tragic. What we’re seeing is a country that’s determined to commit economic suicide but can’t even agree on how to kill itself. It is an epic failure of political leadership.

I say bring back the monarchy. Where have you gone, Queen Elizabeth II, a nation turns its lonely eyes to you.

Seriously, the United Kingdom, the world’s fifth-largest economy — a country whose elites created modern parliamentary democracy, modern banking and finance, the Industrial Revolution and the whole concept of globalization — seems dead-set on quitting the European Union, the world’s largest market for the free movement of goods, capital, services and labor, without a well-conceived plan, or maybe without any plan at all.

Both Conservative and Labour members of Parliament keep voting down one plan after another, looking for the perfect fix, the pain-free exit from the E.U. But there is none, because you can’t fix stupid.

The entire Brexit choice was presented to the public in 2016 with utterly misleading simplicity. It was sold with a pack of lies about both the size of the benefits and the ease of implementation, and it continues to be pushed by Conservative hard-liners who used to care about business but are now obsessed with restoring Britain’s “sovereignty” over any economic considerations.

They don’t seem to be listening at all to people like Tom Enders, C.E.O. of the aerospace giant Airbus, which employs more than 14,000 people in the U.K., with around 110,000 more local jobs connected to its supply chains. Enders has warned the political leadership here that if the U.K. just crashes out of the E.U. in the coming weeks, Airbus may be forced to make some “potentially very harmful decisions” about its operations in Britain.

“Please don’t listen to the Brexiteers’ madness which asserts that ‘because we have huge plants here we will not move. …’ They are wrong,” he said. “And, make no mistake, there are plenty of countries out there who would love to build the wings for Airbus aircraft.”

I understand the grievances of many of those who voted to leave the E.U. For starters, they felt swamped by E.U. immigrants. (The E.U. should have protected the U.K. from that surge; that was German and French foolishness.) There are reportedly some 300,000 French citizens living in London, which would make it one of the biggest French cities in the world. I had a drink with a member of Parliament in the bar in the House of Commons on Tuesday, and as we sat down he whispered to me that “not a single person working in this whole building is British.”

I also get the resentment of Brits at having regulations set by faceless E.U. bureaucrats in Brussels. And I get their resentment at the globalized urban elites, who those in the rural areas here believed looked down at them. And I get the squeeze on middle-class wages here that gets blamed, unfairly, on the E.U. and immigrants the way President Trump blames Mexicans. I get all of that.

But I also get what it means to be a leader in the 21st century. And it sure doesn’t mean asserting your sovereignty over all other considerations or breaking out of the giant E.U. market, where the U.K. sends over 40 percent of its exports, without a serious national discussion of the costs and benefits.

What do the most effective leaders today have in common? They wake up every morning and ask themselves the same questions: “What world am I living in? What are the biggest trends in this world? And how do I educate my citizens about this world and align my policies so more of my people can get the best out of these trends and cushion the worst?”

So what world are we living in? For starters, we’re living in a world that is becoming so interconnected — thanks to digitization, the internet, broadband, mobile devices, the cloud and soon-to-be 5G wireless transmissions — that we are becoming interdependent to an unprecedented degree. In this world, growth increasingly depends on the ability of yourself, your community, your town, your factory, your school and your country to be connected to more and more of the flows of knowledge and investment — and not just rely on stocks of stuff.

Over centuries, notes John Hagel, who currently co-heads Deloitte’s Center for the Edge, business has “been organized around stocks of knowledge as the basis for value creation. The key to creating economic value has been to acquire some proprietary knowledge stocks, aggressively protect those knowledge stocks and then efficiently extract the economic value from those knowledge stocks and deliver them to the market. The challenge in a more rapidly changing world is that knowledge stocks depreciate at an accelerating rate. In this kind of world, the key source of economic value shifts from stocks to flows.

“The companies that will create the most economic value in the future,” Hagel says, “will be the ones that find ways to participate more effectively in a broader range of more diverse knowledge flows that can refresh knowledge stocks at an accelerating rate.”

And yet Britain is ruled today by a party that wants to disconnect from a connected world. The notion that the U.K. will suddenly get a great free-trade deal from Trump as soon as it quits the E.U. is ludicrous. Trump believes in competitive nationalism, and the very reason he is promoting the breakup of the E.U. is that he believes America can dominate the E.U.’s individual economies much better than when they negotiate together as the single biggest market in the world.

The second thing the best leaders understand is that in a world of simultaneous accelerations in technology and globalization, keeping your country as open as possible to as many flows as possible is advantageous for two reasons: You get all the change signals first and have to respond to them and you attract the most high-I.Q. risk-takers, who tend to be the people who start or advance new companies.

In the U.S., who is the C.E.O. of Microsoft? Satya Nadella. Who is the C.E.O. of Google? Sundar Pichai. Who is the C.E.O. of Adobe? Shantanu Narayen. Who is the C.E.O. of Workday? Aneel Bhusri. Hello London? The best talent wants to go to the most open systems — open both to immigrants and trade — because that is where the most opportunities are. Britain is about to put up a big sign: GO AWAY.

The wisest leaders also understand that all the big problems today are global problems, and they have only global solutions. I am talking about climate change, trade rules, technology standards and preventing excesses and contagion in financial markets. If your country wants to have a say in how those problems are solved — and your country’s name is not America, Russia, China or India — you need to be part of a wider coalition like the European Union. The U.K. membership in the E.U. has given it an outsize voice in world affairs.

And there’s just one more thing the best leaders know: a little history. Trump is fine with a world of competitive European nationalisms, not a strong European Union. So is Vladimir Putin. So, it seems, are the Brexiteers. How quickly they’ve all forgotten that the E.U. and NATO were built to prevent the very competitive nationalism that ran riot in Europe in the 20th century and brought us two world wars.

Sorry to be so despondent, but I went to graduate school here on a Marshall scholarship from the British government, was married here and started as a journalist on Fleet Street in London. I like the place. But this is not the reasonably competent British government I grew up with.

It’s being led by a ship of fools — a Conservative Party bloc that is now radical in its obsession with leaving Europe and a Labour Party that has gone Marxist. If the people here can’t force their politicians to compromise with one another and with reality (there’s still a glimmer of hope that this might happen), there is going to be a crackup of the British political system and some serious economic pain. This is scary.

 

 

 

[vememah]

 

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The EU would refuse to open trade talks with Britain after a no-deal Brexit until the UK decided to sign up to the main elements of the withdrawal agreement anyway, the European Commission has said.

Speaking in the European Parliament on Wednesday Jean-Claude Juncker said the Irish border, citizens rights, and the divorce bill would need to be agreed before any other negotiations could begin.

The announcement pours cold water on Brexiteer hopes that the UK could get a better deal by refusing to pay the unpopular £39 billion financial settlement or sign up to the controversial backstop, and then negotiate a separate trade agreement.

“The UK will be more affected than the EU because a managed or negotiated no-deal does not exist, any more so than a transition period for a no-deal,” Mr Juncker told MEPs.

“Whatever happens the UK will have to respond to the three main questions of the separation: one, citizens rights, they must be respected and protected. Two, the UK will have to continue to honour its financial commitments taken as a member state. And three, a solution will have to be found for the island of Ireland, preserving peace and the single market. 

“The UK must respect the spirit and the letter of the Good Friday Agreement. No withdrawal agreement does not mean no commitment and the three questions that I have just mentioned will not disappear overnight: they will constitute strict conditions for rebuilding trust and launching discussions on the future.”

 

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-no-deal-eu-juncker-irish-border-backstop-theresa-may-a8852756.html

Edited April 3, 2019 by vememah

[Gandalf]

 

 

[vememah]

Jeremy Corbyn says his crunch Brexit talks with Theresa May went "very well."

After the talks, which lasted just over two hours, Jeremy Corbyn told the Mirror that they had gone "very well" and that he expected to sit down again with the PM soon.

Talks between Theresa May and Jeremy Corbyn were took place in the Prime Minister's office in the Commons.

Also attending were Brexit Secretary Steve Barclay, chief whip Julian Smith and senior Number 10 aides on the Government side and shadow Brexit secretary Sir Keir Starmer, shadow business secretary Rebecca Long Bailey and shadow chief whip Nick Brown on the Labour side.

Amid claims that Labour could table a no confidence motion in the Government if talks broke down, a Cabinet minister told the Mirror they thought that was "unlikely".

"There are a lot of independent MPs in the Commons just now.

"If they vote against the Government in a confidence vote and trigger a general election they will lose their seats."They don't want that, so they may well abstain."

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/breaking-jeremy-corbyn-says-crunch-14231757

[theanswer]

Nije Brexit ali jeste UK

 

 

[vememah]

 

[Ivo Petović]

Zašto mene niko nije upoznao sa ovim carem? 

 

 

Edited April 3, 2019 by Ivo Petović

[harper]

Poslednja dva sata gledam razne klipove iz njegovih emisija i urlam od smeha. Senzacionalan lik.

[Ivo Petović]

i ja  Apsolutni spektakl.

 

Najjači je onaj lik što bi ugradio mikročipove Ircima.  Ovo je ipak omiljeni klip..damn dissections why can't we just go with simple slogans

 

 

[Marvin (Paranoid Android)]

Najbolji Džejmsov moment ikada je kada je doveo glupana koji mantra o Brexitu u takvu kontradikciju (treći minut i malo posle) da je čovek prosto zaćutao, krenuo da zamuckuje, i umesto priče o ekonomiji samo krenuo sa "Well, if we stood up to Nazi Germany... "

 

 

[Ivo Petović]

What do you think a head of Airbus is missing that you can see?

 

Padoh na pod u petoj sekundi

[harper]

22 minutes ago, Ivo Petović said:

i ja  Apsolutni spektakl.

 

Najjači je onaj lik što bi ugradio mikročipove Ircima.  Ovo je ipak omiljeni klip..damn dissections why can't we just go with simple slogans

 

 

 

Ili onaj sa otpustanjem prevodioca po bolnicama. Pet minuta na racun Borisa Dzonsona ipak su mi bili slag na torti.

 

18 minutes ago, Marvin (Paranoid Android) said:

Najbolji Džejmsov moment ikada je kada je doveo glupana koji mantra o Brexitu u takvu kontradikciju (treći minut i malo posle) da je čovek prosto zaćutao, krenuo da zamuckuje, i umesto priče o ekonomiji samo krenuo sa "Well, if we stood up to Nazi Germany... "

 

 

 

Da, plakao sam od smeha na taj deo. Ipak, najbolji i najsadrzajniji, najjeziviji ako hoces, je bio onaj klip kad je navodio pet kontradiktornih poruka politicara koji su zagovarali Brexit i objasnjavao liku zasto se ne moze reci da su svi glasali za istu stvar. Tip se sludeo skroz i samo kao papagaj ponavljao "jesu, jesu", pokusavajuci valjda samog sebe da ubedi u nemoguce. Tih par minuta verovatno bolje nego ista objasnjava celu sumanutost Leave kampanje.

[mozzer]

Majority by 1

 

https://news.sky.com/story/mps-rule-out-12-april-no-deal-brexit-after-backing-delay-bill-by-a-single-vote-11683506