Timmi Posted May 31, 2013 Posted May 31, 2013 ceo dan nemam struju, al' bolje mi je bilo bez struje nego da se nerviram pored lsjanko, koji sa svog malog olimpa pljuje wta, vidim igra baš pravi muški tenis gde prednost od 2:0 u setovima i brejk viška u trećem uglavnom znači i pobedu želim mu da izgubi ovaj meč, a i izgubiće gaza viktora vođstvo od 1:0 pogotovo ništa ne znači da igra muceni njta, ne bi morao ni da se muci nakon dva dobijena seta.janko rutinski
freakns Posted May 31, 2013 Posted May 31, 2013 Dzanko rutinski :fantom:Viktor dobio Cilicu je polako vreme za penziju :Dpioniri znaci rulaju
InvisibleLight Posted May 31, 2013 Posted May 31, 2013 Što se tiče nagradnog fonda, ja sam više puta branio wta ovde ali ne mogu one da imaju ista prava na gren slemu kao i muškarci koji igraju u pet setova. Prosto, treba da budeš plaćen onoliko koliko si radio.sto se toga tice - nije to bas kao prosta jednacinaipak je tenis, pre nego je postao biznis, bio (i ostao) sport. u kojem pobedjuju (naj)bolji - mushki ili zenskii da se meri po ulozenom satu - to kao kada bi npr na nekom filmskom festivalu pored 'pehara' novcana nagrada za najbolji film bila manja ako film traje 65min u odnosu na nagradjeni film od 120 minutastriktno trzisno - organizatori GS-a prodaju karte po danima - u kojima se igraju i gledaju i muski i zenski mechevi, oni to ne odvajaju pa se ne odvaja ni profit i zarade ( trzisno - proizvod koji se prodaje je tenis, i muski i zenski)a stoje i svi oni serenini razlozi iz 2006 objavljeni u tajmsu
Mil@n Posted May 31, 2013 Posted May 31, 2013 ( trzisno - proizvod koji se prodaje je tenis, i muski i zenski)a stoje i svi oni serenini razlozi iz 2006 objavljeni u tajmsuSumnjam da se proda majica Viktorije Azarenke i Šarapove koliko Feda i Nadala, if u know what i mean.Ja sam apsolutno za da ne trebaju da zarađuju isto. Evo zašto
InvisibleLight Posted May 31, 2013 Posted May 31, 2013 pa to je 'humanisticki' argument, pravda za 'ulozen napor', ne trzisni (s tim u vezi zmisli kako je zena iscrpljena kad igra onim ( ) danima . ttrzisno, na stranu majice (i know what u mean), ipak su GSs jedinstveni dogjadjai, kad se i prenosi prodaju zajedno u paketu i organizatori sigurno imaju u vidu sve aspekte i drago mi je sto equal prizes opstaje.sigurno dobar broj ljudi vishe voli da gleda zenimljive zenske mecheve (ajde sada, imao je zenski tenis bolje dane kada je bilo pravo zadovoljstvo gledati sve top 5 igracice, a muski tenis je imao manje zanimljive periode, nek ne bude sadasnje stanje mera stvari). i sto se tice potraznje - verujem da bas ovakve maratonske meceve kakve igra tipsarevic mnogi ne bi dosli da gledaju .. 4 sata da gledam non top10 tenis? ne hvalauz sve, poznato je i da muskarci koji igraju gs u tri dobijena cesto' tankuju' set koji krene nizbrdo, skupljajuci snagu za sledeciitd itdu svakom slucaju tema se moze diskutovati, al da ne trolujemoto je jedna prica. druga je da je janko na najidiotskiji, seksisticki i prostacki nacin izlozio svoje negodovanje oko istih zarada na GSima
Timmi Posted May 31, 2013 Posted May 31, 2013 zenski tenis se gleda zato sto se dvadesetogodisnjakinje znoje u kratkim suknjicama
freakns Posted May 31, 2013 Posted May 31, 2013 pa to je 'humanisticki' argument, pravda za 'ulozen napor', ne trzisni (s tim u vezi zmisli kako je zena iscrpljena kad igra onim ( ) danima . ttrzisno, na stranu majice (i know what u mean), ipak su GSs jedinstveni dogjadjai, kad se i prenosi prodaju zajedno u paketu i organizatori sigurno imaju u vidu sve aspekte i drago mi je sto equal prizes opstaje.sigurno dobar broj ljudi vishe voli da gleda zenimljive zenske mecheve (ajde sada, imao je zenski tenis bolje dane kada je bilo pravo zadovoljstvo gledati sve top 5 igracice, a muski tenis je imao manje zanimljive periode, nek ne bude sadasnje stanje mera stvari). i sto se tice potraznje - verujem da bas ovakve maratonske meceve kakve igra tipsarevic mnogi ne bi dosli da gledaju .. 4 sata da gledam non top10 tenis? ne hvalauz sve, poznato je i da muskarci koji igraju gs u tri dobijena cesto' tankuju' set koji krene nizbrdo, skupljajuci snagu za sledeciitd itdu svakom slucaju tema se moze diskutovati, al da ne trolujemoto je jedna prica. druga je da je janko na najidiotskiji, seksisticki i prostacki nacin izlozio svoje negodovanje oko istih zarada na GSimato da je DZanko idiot je jedna stvar, ali poistovecivati muski i zenski tenis po bilo kom pitanju(kvalitet, napor, medijska eksploatacija, sta god ti padne na pamet) je besmisleno. razlike su toliko da je apsurdno porediti bilo sta. cak i u tom "interesantnom" periodu sto ti spominjes(btw, koji je to tacno period?)
InvisibleLight Posted May 31, 2013 Posted May 31, 2013 naravno da je janko van okvira diskusije.nznam, ta debata je duga, sigurno nije zasnovana na uporedjivanju kolicine provilevnih litara znoja i krvi, broja sati na terenu, ili kpb odnosu, epilog je da su organizatori odlucili da 'iste zarade na GSovima pobede'.verovatno je to neki licemerni zapadnjacki PC potez koji mi odmah raskrinkamo ;)da ne trolujem dalje..dopusticu da kopiram 'revolucionarni' tekst serene w s kojim se slazem: I feel so strongly that Wimbledon's stance devalues the principle of meritocracy and diminishes the years of hard work that women on the tour have put into becoming professional tennis players.I believe that athletes – especially female athletes in the world's leading sport for women – should serve as role models. The message I like to convey to women and girls across the globe is that there is no glass ceiling. My fear is that Wimbledon is loudly and clearly sending the opposite message....Wimbledon has argued that women's tennis is worth less for a variety of reasons; it says, for example, that because men play a best of five sets game they work harder for their prize money.This argument just doesn’t make sense; first of all, women players would be happy to play five sets matches in grand slam tournaments....Secondly, tennis is unique in the world of professional sports. No other sport has men and women competing for a grand slam championship on the same stage, at the same time. So in the eyes of the general public the men's and women's games have the same value.Third, ... we enjoy huge and equal celebrity and are paid for the value we deliver to broadcasters and spectators, not the amount of time we spend on the stage. And, for the record, the ladies’ final at Wimbledon in 2005 lasted 45 minutes longer than the men's....Wimbledon has justified treating women as second class because we do more for the tournament. The argument goes that the top women – who are more likely also to play doubles matches than their male peers – earn more than the top men if you count singles, doubles and mixed doubles prize money. So the more we support the tournament, the more unequally we should be treated! But doubles and mixed doubles are separate events from the singles competition. Is Wimbledon suggesting that, if the top women withdrew from the doubles events, that then we would deserve equal prize money in singles? And how then does the All England Club explain why the pot of women's doubles prize money is nearly £130,000 smaller than the men's doubles prize money?I intend to keep doing everything I can until Billie Jean's original dream of equality is made real. It's a shame that the name of the greatest tournament in tennis, an event that should be a positive symbol for the sport, is tarnished. [43]In response, British Prime Minister Tony Blair and members of Parliament publicly endorsed Williams's arguments.[44] Later that year, the Women's Tennis Association and UNESCO teamed for a campaign to promote gender equality in sports, asking Williams to lead the campaign.[45] Under enormous pressure, Wimbledon announced in February 2007 that it would award equal prize money to all competitors in all rounds, and the French Open followed suit a day later.[46] In the aftermath, the Chicago Sun-Times cited Williams as "the single factor" that "changed the minds of the boys" and a leader whose "willingness to take a public stand separates her not only from most of her female peers, but also from our most celebrated male athletes."[47] Williams herself commented, "Somewhere in the world a little girl is dreaming of holding a giant trophy in her hands and being viewed as an equal to boys who have similar dreams."[48] ako ti mislis drugacije, meni okna period kraja proslog/pocetka ovog veka sam mislila, kada je zenski tenis bio bas konkurentan i meni bar podjednako zanimljiv kao muski
Jean-Luc Picard Posted May 31, 2013 Posted May 31, 2013 Noooo not again...Ta priča o jednakim zaradama pro i kontra. Gde god se imalo priča ili piše o tenisu mora to s vremena na vreme da dođe na tapet.
keitel Posted May 31, 2013 Posted May 31, 2013 Monfis očekivano čoukuje protiv Robreda. Nikad igrač, Gaele!
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