Shan Jan Posted December 6 Posted December 6 26 minutes ago, vememah said: Na osnovu cega? Pobedio kandidat koga nisu planirali? 1
vememah Posted December 6 Posted December 6 (edited) Izgleda da tekst odluke još nije objavljen. Quote Romania's top court annuls presidential vote amid Russia interference fears (AP) Romania's top court annulled the result of the first round of the country's presidential election on Friday, adding that the entire election process would have to be rerun. The decision came after security services warned the vote had been distorted by a massive Russian influence campaign in favour of far-right candidate Calin Georgescu. A top Romanian court on Friday annulled the first round of the country's presidential election, days after allegations that Russia ran a coordinated online campaign to promote the far-right outsider who won the first round. The Constitutional Court’s unprecedented decision — which is final — came after President Klaus Iohannis declassified intelligence on Wednesday that alleged Russia ran a sprawling campaign comprising thousands of social media accounts to promote Calin Georgescu across platforms like TikTok and Telegram. Despite being a huge outsider who declared zero campaign spending, Georgescu emerged as the frontrunner on Nov. 24. He was due to face reformist Elena Lasconi of the Save Romania Union party in a runoff on Sunday. A new date will now be set to rerun the first round. The intelligence files were from the Romanian Intelligence Service, the Foreign Intelligence Service, the Special Telecommunication Service and the Ministry of Internal Affairs. In light of the intelligence release, Romania’s Constitutional Court received multiple legal complaints urging it to annul the first-round vote but it is not clear yet on what grounds it made the decision. The same court last week ordered a recount of the first-round votes, which added to the myriad controversies that have engulfed a chaotic election cycle. https://www.france24.com/en/live-news/20241206-🔴-romania-s-top-court-annuls-first-round-of-presidential-vote-won-by-far-right-s-calin-georgescu Edited December 6 by vememah
duma Posted December 6 Posted December 6 10 minutes ago, vememah said: Izgleda da tekst odluke još nije objavljen. https://www.france24.com/en/live-news/20241206-🔴-romania-s-top-court-annuls-first-round-of-presidential-vote-won-by-far-right-s-calin-georgescu Objavili su odluku, ali još nisu napisali obrazloženje. Koja su ovlašćenja predsednika u Rumuniji? Kao da biraju sultana koji će moći da radi šta mu padne na pamet, pa moraju da se ovako blamiraju.
Shan Jan Posted December 6 Posted December 6 Cek, znaci ponistili su izbore jer je lik imao previse reklama na TikToku? 2 3
mackenzie Posted December 6 Posted December 6 19 minutes ago, Shan Jan said: Na osnovu cega? Pobedio kandidat koga nisu planirali? Glitch
vememah Posted December 6 Posted December 6 Quote A previously hidden network, mainly operating on TikTok, which had been largely inactive since its launch in 2016, was activated two weeks before the elections. The network's operators, recruited and coordinated through a channel on the messaging platform Telegram, used methods typical of a state actor's "mode of operation," the national intelligence agency SRI concluded. The SRI also reported that nearly one million euros were spent in the campaign by an individual supporting Georgescu's candidacy, with up to €950 paid for a repost. TikTok itself admitted to receiving €362,500 from this person last week. On Tuesday, TikTok representatives told the European Parliament's Committee on the Internal Market and Consumer Protection that the Chinese platform had removed "66,000 fake accounts and many fake followers" targeting a Romanian audience since September. https://www.euronews.com/my-europe/2024/12/04/declassified-romanian-intelligence-suggests-state-actor-behind-georgescus-campaign?utm_term=Autofeed&utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Twitter#Echobox=1733364014
Jesper23 Posted December 6 Posted December 6 Ostavljam mogućnost da sam pglu, ali ja ovo nikako ne kontam. Doduše širom Evrope su na vlasti likovi koji nemaju podršku ni 20% plebsa, počevši sa Makronom. 2
x500 Posted December 6 Posted December 6 41 minutes ago, Shan Jan said: Na osnovu cega? Pobedio kandidat koga nisu planirali? Nije cak ni pobedio, samo je bio prvi u prvom krugu. Problem je sto drugoplasirani i treceplasirane ne mogu da se dogovore oko podrske za drugi krug. 3
Engineer Posted December 6 Posted December 6 (edited) Pre nekoliko godina je u Švajcarskoj poništen referendum oko nekog povećanja poreza jer je jedna strana u kampanji tvrdila da će to pogoditi oko 80 hiljada porodica, a realnost je bila da je oko 450 hiljada plaćalo nešto veći porez. Nema prave demokratije ako se lažu i obmanjuju birači Edited December 6 by Engineer
Tribun_Populi Posted December 6 Posted December 6 13 minutes ago, Engineer said: Nema prave demokratije Popravio. Ma koliko bio protiv ovih retardinja koje izbacuje plima populizma širom Evrope i sveta, još su mi ogavniji ovi koji siluju logiku i sistem da bi se održali. I još se priča o demokratiji. Eksplodiraće ružno. 5 1
Tutankamon Posted December 6 Posted December 6 17 minutes ago, Engineer said: Nema prave demokratije ako se lažu i obmanjuju birači Pa su bukvalno u par dana utvrdili da je manipulisao brojem pregleda na tik-toku, sto rade manje-vise svi...
Mel Posted December 6 Posted December 6 6 minutes ago, Tribun_Populi said: Popravio. Ma koliko bio protiv ovih retardinja koje izbacuje plima populizma širom Evrope i sveta, još su mi ogavniji ovi koji siluju logiku i sistem da bi se održali. I još se priča o demokratiji. Eksplodiraće ružno. Pa demokratija je u padu i to ne zbog Srbije, samo nema tu niceg pozitivnog za nas. I mi smo iz demokratije usli u radikale, dzaba sad sto ih narod frustriran bije po ulicama (mada lepo je videti, svakako). Ja samo bukvalno ne kapiram sta je Rumunima, sta ce im desnicar koga ovde porede sa Nestorovicem. Bukvalno wtf. 1
vememah Posted December 6 Posted December 6 (edited) Reakcije: Ispali protivkandidat: Quote Outgoing Romanian Prime Minister Marcel Ciolacu [of the governing Social Democrats] said the court's decision to annul was "the only correct solution after the declassification of the documents... which show that the result of the Romanians' vote was blatantly distorted as a result of Russia's intervention". Protivkandidatkinja u 2. krugu: Quote [Elena] Lasconi [of the opposition Save Romania Union] condemned the court's ruling as "illegal" and "immoral", saying "today is the moment when the Romanian state has trampled on democracy". "Whether we like it or not, from a legal and legitimate point of view, nine million Romanian citizens, both in the country and in the diaspora, have expressed their preference for a certain candidate. We cannot ignore their will!" she said. She had been hoping to win the second round run-off on Sunday, which has now been cancelled. Sudije su prethodno bile najavile da neće uzimati u razmatranje informacije o spoljnom uticaju, ali su se naprasno predomislile. Quote The judges of the court met on Friday morning, despite having announced the previous night that they would not discuss new information regarding possible external influence on the elections until the second round of voting. The law stipulates that, in the event of the annulment of the elections, they should resume on the second Sunday after the date of the annulment - which would have meant on 22 December. However, the court has decided to ask the government to rerun the entire electoral process, and therefore the electoral campaign. Sve sa: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cn4x2epppego Edited December 6 by vememah 2
bags Posted December 6 Posted December 6 Valjda je jedan od razloga sto je lik upumpao milione u TikTok kampanju a nigde to nije prijavio. 1 1
Ayatollah Posted December 6 Posted December 6 8 minutes ago, Tribun_Populi said: Popravio. Ma koliko bio protiv ovih retardinja koje izbacuje plima populizma širom Evrope i sveta, još su mi ogavniji ovi koji siluju logiku i sistem da bi se održali. I još se priča o demokratiji. Eksplodiraće ružno. Da li možeš da se setiš da li su bilo koji izbori bilo gde u svetu u poslednjih 25 godina promenili bilo šta bitno? Možda Bukele u Salvadoru, ali to je od lokalnog značaja. Čak ni prvi izbor Trampa nije ništa promenio, neće ni ovaj, o drugima da i ne govorim. U EU šatro imaš neke izbore, a na čelo EK uvek dolaze jedni te isti likovi bez karaktera i harizme, u UK svaki sledeći premijer gori od prethodnog, a suštinski vlada ista oligarhija/elita. Ovi na drugoj strani ne menjaju ni formalno, imaš masu likova koji će i biološki da umru na vlasti. Da, eksplodiraće ružno, eksplodiraće vrlo, vrlo ružno. 5 1
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