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Prolazi. 

 

Ja pobrkao filibaster i veto. 

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Hoce li biti mirno tamo bar jos nekih 6-8 meseci?

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Negativna kampanja Izraela (kod mene stalno pustaju reklame da se ne dozvoli sklapanje nuklearnog sporazuma sa Iranom) donosi rezultate:

 

CNN/ORC poll: Obama disapproval up, most say U.S. doing badly

 

After a brief bump into positive territory, disapproval of President Barack Obama is on the rise amid dismal reviews of his work on several foreign policy issues and a sense that his policies would lead the country in the wrong direction.

Assessing Obama's handling of several issues, the President fares worst on his handling of ISIS, the Islamic militant group that controls some areas of Iraq and Syria, with 62% disapproving of how the President is dealing with the group. Nearly as many, 60% say they disapprove of his management of the U.S. relationship with Iran.

 

http://www.cnn.com/2015/08/21/politics/obama-approval-rating-poll/index.html

 

Za razliku od Klintona, Obama nikada nije mnogo mario za javno mnjenje, tako ne verujem da ce ovo uticati na njegovu odluku da udari veto na kontra-Iran rezoluciju u parlamentu.

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A i Obama ne mora opet na izbore, te ga realno zabole

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Negativna kampanja Izraela (kod mene stalno pustaju reklame da se ne dozvoli sklapanje nuklearnog sporazuma sa Iranom) donosi rezultate:

 

CNN/ORC poll: Obama disapproval up, most say U.S. doing badly

 

After a brief bump into positive territory, disapproval of President Barack Obama is on the rise amid dismal reviews of his work on several foreign policy issues and a sense that his policies would lead the country in the wrong direction....

 

Odlično, sledeći predsednik će verovatno biti još veći pobornik bumper sticker spoljne politike, moći će da se raduju novim fantastičnim uspesima iz sličnim onim iz vremena GWBa, pod HRC ili kojim god klovnom koga GOP nekim čudom posadi za the Resolute desk.

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Odlično, sledeći predsednik će verovatno biti još veći pobornik bumper sticker spoljne politike, moći će da se raduju novim fantastičnim uspesima iz sličnim onim iz vremena GWBa, pod HRC ili kojim god klovnom koga GOP nekim čudom posadi za the Resolute desk.

Pod HRC? Vec znamo kakav ce predsednik biti? 

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Dobre vesti, ne treba propustiti:

 

 

EU ready to lift Iran sanctions on IAEA green light: sources

15 January 2016, 15:25 CET

 

 

(BRUSSELS) - The European Union is ready to lift damaging economic sanctions against Iran as soon as the UN confirms Tehran has met the terms of a historic nuclear deal, diplomatic sources said Friday.

 

The International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) is expected to announce shortly, possibly later Friday or over the weekend, that Iran cannot now acquire nuclear weapons, as it agreed with world powers in July in return for ending sanctions.

 

The diplomatic sources told AFP that everything was being put in place so that the 28-nation EU, alongside the United States and the United Nations, can end its sanctions regime on what is known as "Implementation Day" for the July agreement.

 

"When the report from the IAEA is published, the European Union will be ready," one of the sources said.

 

The source said member states were agreeing the precise instruction which would then be finalised by the Netherlands as holder of the six-month rotating EU presidency.

 

In a key step, Iran said on Thursday it had removed the core of its Arak heavy water reactor and filled in part of it with cement, meaning it could not be used to produce a nuclear weapon.

 

Iran has always insisted its nuclear programme was purely for peaceful purposes.

 

The EU chaired the talks between Iran and the United States, Russia, China, Britain, France and Germany.

 

EU, US and UN sanctions have proved very damaging for Iran, blocking billions of dollars in assets overseas and starving the oil-dependent economy of much-needed technology and investment.

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Iran nuclear deal: IAEA says implementation can go ahead

 

The international nuclear watchdog, the IAEA, says Iran has put in place all the measures necessary to start implementing the nuclear deal, paving the way for the lifting of sanctions.

 

Director General Yukiya Amano said it was "an important day for the international community".

The agency's inspectors on the ground had verified that Iran had carried out the measures required, he said.

 

A deal between Iran and world powers was agreed in July last year.

 

Lifting the international sanctions on Iran would unfreeze billions of dollars of assets and allow Iranian oil to be sold internationally.

 

As part of the deal, Iran had to drastically reduce its number of centrifuges and dismantle a heavy-water reactor near the town of Arak, both of which could be used in creating nuclear weapons.

 

Iran has always maintained its programme is peaceful, but opponents of the deal - such as some US Republicans - say it does not do enough to ensure the country cannot develop a nuclear bomb.

 

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Veliki dan.

 

SAnkcije bi trebalo da su formalno već ukinute.

 

Nadam se da će iransko društvo umeti da pozitivno iskoristi priliku.

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Nadam se da će iransko društvo umeti da pozitivno iskoristi priliku.

Jebote  :) , pa ti bas onako zastitnicki, kao da Iranu ucinise i to onoliko, kao da su ih pomilovali po glavi i rekli im da su bili dobri.

Ovo je pobeda Irana i to nesporna: isterao je svoje, a sto je po Zapad najporaznije pojavio se kao prihvatljiva alternativa ekstremnom islamovanu, postao pozeljan partner oko koga ce se tek otimati i to sve vise.

Jednom recju, Iran je zauzeo mesto koje mu po znacaju i pripada, a sankcije su se - po ko zna koji put - pokazale kao duplo golo, izgubljeno vreme.

Ne znam kakvu to priliku ce trebati da ume da iskoristi iransko drustvo, pa jos pozitivno, da na Zapadu budu zadovoljni: da nece da krenu da im uvode demokratiju na nacine na koje su to poslednjih godina krenuli da demonstriraju diljem Bliskog istoka?

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Ajde da kažemo da je win-win. Ne treba uvek tražiti pobednike i poražene.

 

Ostaje ona filozofska misao, tipa zbog čega bilo koju zemlju treba sankcionisati ako krene u nuklearni program. Missim, ako mogu Pakistan i Izrael onda faking mogu svi. Ali dobro je da ova iranska priča polako napušta pećinske standarde i ulazi u 21. vek.

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Iran ce svima biti interesantan taman koliko je znacajan broj i uticaj shita u odnosu na sunite. Iran je dobio sansu i treba da je iskoriste, ali cisto sumnjam da ce u skorije vreme zameniti po vaznosti ulogu koju ima SA.

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Iran ce svima biti interesantan taman koliko je znacajan broj i uticaj shita u odnosu na sunite. Iran je dobio sansu i treba da je iskoriste, ali cisto sumnjam da ce u skorije vreme zameniti po vaznosti ulogu koju ima SA.

 

Interesantan je jer su suniti kao rogovi u vreći rastrzani između Rijada, Dohe, Ankare, Kaira....šiiti su jedinstveni i bespogovorno slušaju Teheran

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Ajde da kažemo da je win-win. Ne treba uvek tražiti pobednike i poražene.

 

Ostaje ona filozofska misao, tipa zbog čega bilo koju zemlju treba sankcionisati ako krene u nuklearni program. Missim, ako mogu Pakistan i Izrael onda faking mogu svi. Ali dobro je da ova iranska priča polako napušta pećinske standarde i ulazi u 21. vek.

Ma da je samo filozofija u pitanju, pa 'ajde de: borba velikih, pre svega SAD, ne vise za ogranicavanje sirenja nuklearnog oruzja, nego - posle pogede u Hladnom ratu - za njegovu zabranu, ako treba i silom, sankcijama, sa sve licemerno selektivnim davanjem odobrenja ko sme, a ko ne sme da bude atomska sila, pokazala se neuspesnom i to skroz.

Rezultat moze da bude, a bojim se i da ce biti dalje sirenje nuklearnog oruzja: Amerika, a s njom i takozvani razvijeni svet, salju nedvosmislenu poruku - i to kao posledicu sopstvene kratkovidosti - da je nuklearno oruzje jedino oruzje, a sebe, sto je najopasnije, sve cesce dovode u situaciju da su, iz krize u krizu, sve blize upotrebi istog kao jedinom mogucem odgovoru.

Ako, ne daj boze, do toga dodje, to nece biti zbog neodgovornosti zapadnih politicara, nego zbog politike nesklone kompromisu, iskljucive i, zasto ne - licemerne, dvostandardne.

Ako se tome doda i vise nego izgledna teroristicka nuklearna pretnja, dobija se poprilicno atomski eksplozivna smesa, u svakom slucaju eksplozivnija nego ikad posle Hirosime i Nagasakija.

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