Iran: novi front

[Prospero]

Kelsey Davenport @KelseyDav

· 3h 3 hours ago

Kerry: Iran agrees not to build heavy-water reactors for 15 yrs, ship out spent fuel, modify Arak. - This blocks the plutonium path to nukes

 

Kelsey Davenport @KelseyDav

· 3h 3 hours ago

Kerry: "A deal caps uranium enrichment to 3.67 percent." Good! Weapons grade it greater than 90 percent.

 

Kelsey Davenport @KelseyDav

· 3h 3 hours ago

Iran now has 20,000 centrifuges. Under a deal, 6,100. Iran has 8,000kg of UF6. Under a deal, 300kg of UF6. Clear benefits of an #IranDeal

 

Kelsey Davenport @KelseyDav

· 4h 4 hours ago

Stockpile limitations for 15 years. #Iran limited to 5,060 IR-1s for 10 years. This is a strong, effective deal from a nonpro standpoint

 

+ detalji

 

http://content.govdelivery.com/attachments/USSTATEBPA/2015/04/02/file_attachments/378460/Media%2BNote%2B-%2BApril%2B2%2B2015%2B-%2BLausanne.pdf

 

 

 

 

[Prospero]

bibi u popizdu:

 

Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu spoke to US President Barack Obama this evening and expressed Israel’s strong opposition to the framework agreement with Iran which poses a grave danger to Israel, the region and the world.

Prime Minister Netanyahu:

“A deal based on this framework would threaten the survival of Israel.

Just two days ago, Iran said that ‘The destruction of Israel is non-negotiable,’ and in these fateful days Iran is accelerating the arming of its terror proxies to attack Israel.

This deal would legitimize Iran’s nuclear program, bolster Iran’s economy, and increase Iran’s aggression and terror throughout the Middle East and beyond.

Such a deal would not block Iran’s path to the bomb. It would pave it.

It would increase the risks of nuclear proliferation in the region and the risks of a horrific war.

The alternative is standing firm and increasing the pressure on Iran until a better deal is achieved.”

 

[Ravanelli]

izgleda da će ići da blokiraju dil u kongrasu. ne znam da li obama može da ga overrajduje.

[Dagmar]

izgleda da će ići da blokiraju dil u kongrasu. ne znam da li obama može da ga overrajduje.

 

Da, slusam sad u vestima. Kao kongresu se ne svidja deal.

[Prospero]

kongres ne može da utiče na skidanje sankcija un, eu i niza sankcija koje su donete preko predsedničkih "executive order"-a.

 

tako da mogu da se igraju, velika većina sankcija ode anyway.

[Prospero]

zar je trebalo sumnjati da godvinov zakon rula kod war party ekipe:

 

The Illinois Republican trashed a deal struck by global powers with Tehran, concluding in a phone interview “that Neville Chamberlain got a lot of more out of Hitler than Wendy Sherman got out of Iran,” a reference to a top State Department negotiator on the deal.

Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2015/04/mark-kirk-iran-deal-react-nazi-116632.html#ixzz3WEbxlvND

 

 

 

ti ljudi su pre x decenija pročitali nešto o "munich analogy" i više nikad ništa nisu naučili.

[Roger Sanchez]

Nemoguće je da se ovo potvrdi u Congressu, to ne bi uspjelo ni Tomu Cruzu. Team Israel is pulling all the stops..

But the truth is that there is quite a worrying resemblance between the Iraq war project and the Iran peace project. :Hail:

Congress je njihov medo koji će otplesat svoje, a naciji će završnu obradu odradit the most trusted news source, Fox News.

Edited April 3, 2015 by Roger Sanchez

[mandingo]

ako, nek skicu, ko ih jebe. ova analogija sa 1938 je opasno glup spin.

 

bravo za obamu i za pro iranski lobi.

[Čutura]

https://youtu.be/nKX6luiMINQ

[Prospero]

Confirmed: The Hawks Were Wrong on Iran

 

The political framework with Iran laid bare the false criticisms of U.S. hawks.

 

Trita Parsi

 

April 3, 2015

 

 

 

Peace won. War lost. It’s as simple as that. Make no mistake, the framework agreement that was announced yesterday is nothing short of historic. A cycle of escalation has been broken – for the first time, Iran’s nuclear program will roll back, as will the sanctions Iran has been subjected too.

 

In 2003, as I describe in Treacherous Alliance - the Secret Dealings of Israel, Iran and the US, Iran only had 164 centrifuges. It offered to negotiate with the United States, and, but the George Bush administration refused. “We don’t talk to evil,” Vice President Dick Cheney quipped in response to the negotiation offer. Instead, the Bush administration resorted to threats of war and sanctions.

 

Iran, in turn, expanded its program. By 2005, it had 3,000 centrifuges. Again, it sought negotiations and offered to stop expanding its nuclear program. Again, the United States refused.

 

By the time President Barack Obama came to power, the Iranians were operating around 8,000 centrifuges. After his initial, limited attempt at diplomacy failed, Obama embarked on what was called the pressure track – sanctions. As the United States ramped up unprecedented sanctions, Iran accelerated its nuclear activities. By end of 2013, Iran had 22,000 centrifuges. It had a large stockpile of both low and medium enriched uranium. It had mastered the fuel cycle. It was closer to a breakout capability than ever before.

 

Pressure yielded pressure. Sanctions begot centrifuges. The escalation had left the United States increasingly faced the worst option – war.

 

Until diplomacy begun in earnest – much thanks to the commitment of President Obama and the elections of Iranian President Hassan Rouhani.

It’s only now – thanks to their persistent and tireless diplomacy – that the growth of the Iranian nuclear program has not only been stopped, it has been reversed. This is the first time that the number of centrifuges Iran operates will have been reduced. No other policy has achieved this. The critics can’t touch this.

 

They have not only been wrong in how to handle the Iranian nuclear program – they have been wrong on almost anything about Iran.

 

The critics said Iran would never honor its word. They were wrong. The IAEA has consistently attested that both the United States and Iran have lived up to their commitments. President Obama himself pointed this out today – a rare praise by the U.S. president of Iran.

 

The critics said the Iranians would only play for time. They were wrong. Both sides negotiated with sincerity. If the Iranians just wanted to negotiate in order to shift the blame onto the Unites States and escape international pressure, they had the best chance to so when the 47 U.S. senators committed in writing that they would undo the agreement. Iran could have walked away from the table. Much of the international community would not blamed Iran for it. But Iran didn’t do this. Instead, the Iranian negotiators sacrificed their Persian New Year’s holidays and continued negotiating.

 

The critics said this was taking too long. They were wrong. Arm limitations agreements have taken an average of 1,120 days – that’s three years. The average for all agreements is 899 days. That’s 2.4 years. The Iran deal has taken only 1.5 years thus far. That’s faster than both general agreements and arms reduction deals.

 

The critics said Iran could never strike a deal with the United States because of Iran’s supreme leader and because of Iran’s state ideology. Again, they were wrong. As I explained in The Atlantic last week, Ayatollah Ali Khamenei has always kept the door open for talks if it benefitted Iran’s national interest. And right now, while hardliners in Washington are seeking to kill the deal – as Bill Kristol put it – Iran’s hardliners are framing the deal as a win for themselves and for their ideology.

 

Much remains to be done. Obama has not yet won the battle in Congress. It will not be an easy task. But he has one major advantage – he has truth on his side because everything the critics said turned out to be wrong. And everything he has cautiously promised he has thus far delivered on.

 

After all, true leaders know that history will not judge them for the petty and desperate criticism they faced, but for the courage they showed in grasping for a peace that appeared beyond the possible.

[Аврам Гојић]

meni se čini da je Obama ovim odradio barem delić svoje Nobelove nagrade.

[Muwan]

... ako ovi manijaci u narednih par nedelja ne podignu avione usred noći.

[hazard]

Mislis na Izrael? I meni je to palo na pamet odma. Mada nesto sumnjam da bi to smeli tek tako, razbesneli bi Belu kucu, ipak bi bilo previse.

[Аврам Гојић]

... ako ovi manijaci u narednih par nedelja ne podignu avione usred noći.

 

I ja sam to pomislio ali se opredeljujem da verujem da Bibi nije baš toliko lud da rizikuje potpuni antagonizam Bele kuće. ili, čak i ako jeste, da bi sama vojnoobaveštajna zajednica takvu ideju zaustavila u povoju.

Edited April 3, 2015 by Грешни Василије

[Prospero]

meni se čini da je Obama ovim odradio barem delić svoje Nobelove nagrade.

o da, shoutout for barry o!