Zemljotres od 9 stepeni Rihtera u Japanu, 11.03.2011

[Yoyogi]

sta se sve zove covekom, majko mila...

Jao sto sam video leeep materijaaaal...

[Yoyogi]

imam par pitanja.da li hoces da kazes da japanska vlada i mediji lazu o radijaciji i, sta znam, pokusaavaju da profitiraju na nesreci kada proglasavaju "no go" zone?da li, ako se radijacija ne oseca, znaci da je nema?

Radijacije nema, nema je ni na mernim instrumentima, van kruga Fukushime.Japanska vlada sa "no go" upravo hoce da privodi slucaj kraju a ne doveka cim nekome padne muka odmah tuzba za radijaciju. Ovako, zna se da niko nije ozracen i stanje se zamrzava, cak i da Fukushima sada odleti u vazduh i izbljuje iznutrice u nebo, svi su dovoljno daleko da mogu na vreme da se sklone. Nije atomska bomba. Objasnio sam vec da sa "disaster zone" ima cist put da koristi (ogromne) pare bez ubedjivanja i glasanja u Parlamentu gde ionako jedva prezivljava.Druga stranka jedva ceka da im vidi creva a upravo je sadasnja opozicija bila na vlasti 54 godine, njenom zaslugom (na vlasti od 1955. do avgusta 2009.) je i zakon bio takav da dozvoli rad Fukushime preko 40 godina, to je trebalo vec da bude zatvoreno.Fukushima je dobila 15m visok tsunami koji je provalio duboko u (ravno) zaledje, to je jurnulo dalje jos preko 10km. Posto je elektrana na obali, to je polukrug od 20km gde u prvih 5km niko nije stanovao da dalje gde je stigao tsunami kamen na kamenu nije ostao.

projekcija?

Ko ovde vidi i zeli zrtve? Ja jedini izgleda ne. Ostalima krivo sto ih TV izvodala ko mecke pa traze razlog. Jedan rece da ce tek generaciju kasnije da se otkrije ono sto je CNN javio a merni instrumenti nisu mogli da izmere.Ona budala u ranijem napadu nekrofilije videla 1000 tela kako lezi na plazi, niko ne sme da dodje da ih pokupi, plase se radijacije. Ko bre na plazi, 15,000 ljudi je tsunami povukao sa sobom u okean, nikad ih nece naci.

ovo vec stvarno ne znam sta je. nesto mi govori da ne vredi ni da pokusavam da dokucim.

Pa gledaju TV kao tetke koje vole da ih neko plasi i drazi.

[ndjordjevic]

Radijacije nema

crnjanski

Nije atomska bomba.

a i bombu su izmislili zlikovci da skrecu paznju sa ozbiljnih problema.

Objasnio sam vec da sa "disaster zone" ima cist put da koristi (ogromne) pare bez ubedjivanja i glasanja u Parlamentu gde ionako jedva prezivljava.Druga stranka jedva ceka da im vidi creva a upravo je sadasnja opozicija bila na vlasti 54 godine, njenom zaslugom (na vlasti od 1955. do avgusta 2009.) je i zakon bio takav da dozvoli rad Fukushime preko 40 godina, to je trebalo vec da bude zatvoreno.

treba da promenis frizera.

[Yoyogi]

"No go" zona je postala punosnazna u ponoc cetvrtak na petak. U cetvrtak popodne je bio skoro stampedo stanovnistva da pokupe sta mogu iz svojih kuca ako su ostale citave i strpaju u kola ako imaju.Gde je radijacija? Sto se nisu uplasili?Po zdravlje opasna (cak ni rizicna) radijacija nije izasla iz kruga Fukushime. Ni radnici u njoj nisu po zdravlje rizicno (kamoli opasno) ozraceni.

[kralj]

Da Yoyogija nedajbože strefi nešto od ovoga što se nikako™ nije© dogodilo Japanu, mislim da bi lično zaustavio cunami ili šta već na sekund (kao Sofronije kad na kraju crtaća raširi onu crnu rupu da bi ispričao još nešto), samo da nam saopšti da je to sve bulja i kurac i da CNN i Vlada lažu.

Baš vala. Sofronije indid. Ovako je samo u fazonu "dva put ništa jednako ništa. crva nije ni bilo".

[gone fishing]

je i zakon bio takav da dozvoli rad Fukushime preko 40 godina, to je trebalo vec da bude zatvoreno.

US approves 20-year extension for Vermont nuclear plant By Tom Eley 23 March 2011 On Monday, the U.S. Nuclear Regulatory Commission (NRC) delivered a letter to energy firm Entergy stating that it may keep running its Vermont Yankee nuclear power plant through March, 21, 2032. The reactor in the aged plant, which is known to have released radiation into groundwater, is virtually identical to that of the Fukushima Daiichi plant in Japan....... “The plants are not designed to go past 40 years,” Saporito told the World Socialist Web Site. “The Vermont plant has had multiple failures of their safety systems. The NRC blows all this stuff off, turns a blind eye....Now that they’ve reached the end of their 40-year design basis, the NRC is just rubber-stamping these 20-year extensions. They have not yet turned down a single applicant.

- toliko o tzv radnom veku od bednih 40 godina, realno zašto bi se i stukao sav taj beton i čelik, napravio čitav složen sistem zaštite a da mu je rok trajanja < 100 godina uz odgovarajuće održavanje- tih 40 godina su procenili još u eri velike expanzije gradnji nuklearki pre 40 godina, verovatno sa ciljem da svojoj kompaniji obezbede veliki profit od konstrukcije novih ne koje bi zamenile ove zastarele- no u međuvremenu se raspoloženje prema nuklearkama promenilo, pa sad, gle čuda, mogu raditi još 20 godina, pa će za 15 godina da im produže radni vek još dodatnih 10-15 god. i tako redom sve dok ne zaživi negde sredinom veka i reši sve naše probleme vezane za energiju :D

[Yoyogi]

Da Yoyogija nedajbože strefi nešto od ovoga što se nikako™ nije© dogodilo Japanu, mislim da bi lično zaustavio cunami ili šta već na sekund (kao Sofronije kad na kraju crtaća raširi onu crnu rupu da bi ispričao još nešto), samo da nam saopšti da je to sve bulja i kurac i da CNN i Vlada lažu.

Yoyogi je jedini od svih ovde u Japanu.CNN je govno kao sto je uvek i bio.Vlada ne laze nego je oprezna sta govori, drzi se propisa, ogranicena njima manevrise sto bolje moze jer je podlozna izborima.Ono sto se desilo Japanu nije Fukushima, ona je najmanje bitna a medijski najatraktivnija (samo pogledaj tvoje i stotine drugih postova), zaboravilo se sta je prava nesreca.Evakuisani (prema japanskim propisima, prema EU ne bi bili evakuisani) su pre svega zivi i zdravi, oni ce biti obesteceni, u nove kuce na novom mestu ce moci (organizovano) da prenesu stvari koje su ostale ako su ostale - jos jedan razlog za "no-go" da ne bi pocelo da se raznosi kada godinama niko ne zalazi u ta naselja.

[Аврам Гојић]

Jao sto sam video leeep materijaaaal...

pa ako si, tebi je i bio namenjen. inace nemoj vise da ti padne da pamet da insinuiras da se ljudi ovde raduju pogibijama i nesrecama. ok?

[Time Crisis]

Yoyogi je jedini od svih ovde u Japanu.

Tačno i samim tim je logično biti optimističan. :) Inače da neko drugi ko nije u Japanu piše sve ovo, pretpostavljam da bi odavno bio banovan zbog trolovanja.

[Yoyogi]

Tačno i samim tim je logično biti optimističan. :) Inače da neko drugi ko nije u Japanu piše sve ovo, pretpostavljam da bi odavno bio banovan zbog trolovanja.

Nije to optimizam nego realno sagledavanje sta se desava. Sto nije 240 hiljada stranaca koji su zbrisali od 11-20 marta bilo optimisticno?Narokali se CNN-a i ucinilo im se da je nebo pocelo da im pada na glavu pa se dali u beg. Strance (sve) zovu gai-jin. Te sto su zbrisali zovu "fly-jin". Koji su q i bili u Japanu kada se bez njih tako lako moze?

[Yoyogi]

Vecina zrtava tsunamija su bile starine koji nisu mogli da pobegnu. Malo zrtava samog zemljotresa. Nula zrtava od Fukushima nuclear plant.Preziveli, pitanje je koliko njih hoce da se vrate tamo gde su bili. Neki i hoce.Over half of March 11 victims aged 65, olderSENDAI — Over half of those killed in three northeastern Japanese prefectures by the catastrophic March 11 earthquake and tsunami were aged 65 or older, while over 95% of deaths reported in Miyagi Prefecture alone resulted from drowning under the tsunami, fresh data showed Sunday.Of the 9,112 killed in Iwate, Miyagi and Fukushima pefectures whose ages are confirmed, 4,990, or 54.8%, were aged 65 or older, according to the data Kyodo tallied based on a list of victims by the National Police Agency.Separate data compiled by the police in Miyagi Prefecture, meanwhile, showed that out of 8,015 deaths confirmed through April 10 in the prefecture, 95.8% or 7,676, resulted from drowning.The figure highlights the difference between the 1995 Great Hanshin Earthquake, where most of the 6,432 victims were crushed to death by collapsed houses.Academics say the tally shows that vulnerable people in the already graying communities in the northeastern region were the hardest hit by the disaster.The overwhelming percentage of deaths by drowning, meanwhile, can also be assumed in the causes of quake-related deaths in Iwate and Fukushima, two other prefectures ravaged by the tsunami, they said.The ratios of the dead aged 65 or older to the total residents accounted for 54 to 56% in Iwate, Miyagi and Fukushima and were more than double the ratios of residents in the age group in the prefectures, according to pre-disaster surveys in 2010.‘‘Many elderly probably failed to escape the tsunami on time,’’ said Fumihiko Imamura, a Tohoku University professor specializing in tsunami engineering. ‘‘They couldn’t run fast enough and didn’t have sufficient physical strength.’‘Imamura said in future city planning, a compact city with employment opportunities and social functions, located away from the coastline, should be considered as the safest residential environment for the elderly.Of the remaining casualties in Miyagi, 1.6% or 126 died by injuries such as by hemorrhagic shock or polytrauma, 1% or 83 were fatally burned and 0.3% or 25 were crushed to death.

[Yoyogi]

Evakuisana zona, mesto zvano Futaba. Zamalo pa bi moglo da se kaze "nema ni kera na ulicama".Ovo je izgledalo upadljivo fotografu koji verovatno ne zna da je ovo mesto bilo isto ovako (ni zive duse) i pre zemljotresa i evakuacije. Imam na desetine slika iz slicnih mesta iz sred bela dana, isto ovako izgledaju. Jednu sam i postovao u ranije. Ono sto bi bilo razlicito u normalno doba je da bi krater u ulici bio zakrpljen.Mada se malo i vidi zasto je "no go" zona. Sve stoji samo ljudi nema. Ili svi nazad ili niko.Moj omiljeni autor, Lewis Page, tvrdi da je radijacija u Madrasu danas veca nego oko Fukushima a tamo niko ne pomislja na evakuaciju. Navodi i naucnika Ted Rockwella:One week after the crisis broke, the renowned US nuclear engineer Ted Rockwell wrote:In Japan, you have radiation zealots threatening to order people out of their homes, to wander, homeless and panic-stricken, through the battered countryside, to do what? All to avoid a radiation dose lower than what they would get from a ski trip.Japanese gov makes Fukushima evac zone compulsoryIt's more radioactive in Madras: no evac thereBy Lewis Page Japanese authorities have elected to make a recommended evacuation zone around the damaged Fukushima Daiichi nuclear powerplant compulsory and ordered residents of some communities beyond the zone to evacuate, despite the fact that radiation levels beyond the plant fence are dropping steadily and are nowhere such as to cause health concerns."Unfortunately, there are still some people in the areas," chief cabinet secretary Yukio Edano told reporters, announcing the new measures. "Today... we have decided to designate the area an emergency area based on disaster law."People can no longer enter the 20 km recommended evacuation area around the Daiichi plant, apart from brief 2 hour visits with permission from police by one household member per home to collect belongings. Anyone breaking the rules could face a ¥100,000 (£750) fine or 30 days in prison. Nobody at all except plant workers is allowed within 3km of the plant.Some communities beyond the 20km limit have also been evacuated following detection of elevated radiation and recommendations from the International Atomic Energy Authority (IAEA), which has a monitoring team in the area. These towns and villages are Katsurao, Kawamata, Namie, Minami Souma and Iitate, with the highest radiation readings seen at Iitate.Radiation dose rates at Iitate dropped below 10 microsievert/hour as of March 25 and are now below 5 microsievert/hour. If the Iitate dose rate stabilised permanently now, people living there would sustain annual dose rates of 44 millisievert. If levels continue to descend along the curve seen thus far the dose in the first year would be below 20 millisievert and less thereafter.For comparison:Nuclear powerplant workers, whose cancer rate is somewhat lower than in the general population (probably because they don't smoke so much) are allowed to sustain 50 millisievert in any one year in normal times and average doses across five years of 20 millisievert/yr.More than 140,000 people who live in the Indian states of Kerala and Madras receive average doses above 15 millisievert every single year of their lives from background radiation. Many Brazilians and Sudanese sustain background doses up to 40 millisievert/year: at some locations the annual background dose rises above 50 millisievert. The 70,000 residents of the Iranian resort town of Ramsar on the Caspian Sea can sustain annual doses of 250 millisievert, due to the presence of radiactive hot springs in the area.None of these areas are being evacuated, though they are much more radiologically dangerous than the area around Fukushima Daiichi. Even at the plant fence the dose rate measured yesterday (24 microsievert/hour) is less than a resident of Ramsar sustains normally.Edano admitted that the evacuation orders are not required by measured dose rates, and described them as "precautionary". He overrode protests from residents of Minami Souma, where dose rates have never been high and are now down below the amounts received by airline crew or Madras residents.One week after the crisis broke, the renowned US nuclear engineer Ted Rockwell wrote:In Japan, you have radiation zealots threatening to order people out of their homes, to wander, homeless and panic-stricken, through the battered countryside, to do what? All to avoid a radiation dose lower than what they would get from a ski trip.People forcibly evacuated from communities near Fukushima will probably have to join the large numbers of refugees from the quake and tsunami living under arduous conditions in temporary accomodation of various kinds."All I can say is that Tepco will be held liable and they will be made to make full compensation to sufferers of this incident," stated Edano.However there can be little doubt that most of the dislocation and incovenience caused by Fukushima Daiichi is now the fault of the government rather than the plant operator.

[ficfiric]

Tja, ne mogu mesec dana rupu u asfaltu da zakrpe <_<

[Yoyogi]

Tja, ne mogu mesec dana rupu u asfaltu da zakrpe <_<

Javashluk. I roboti su im lenchuge, kako mogu da zive sa tom rupom dok ljudi nema. Kako im ne dosadi da je obilaze?Treba im poslati strucnu ekipu da im to popravi ili da ih poduci kako se to radi.

[kralj]