whistleblowers: wikileaks, snowden i...

[mioba]

, ali ono sto najvise zacudjuje je nivo gluposti, diletantizma i neprofesionalnosti koji se prosirio americkom administracijom

Kako navodi Gardijan, više od tri miliona službenika SAD i vojnika, od kojih su mnogi mladi i nalaze se na nižim pozicijama, imaju pristup ovom materijalu. Za ovaj slučaj najveća sumnja pala je na dvadesetdvogodišnjeg obaveštajnog analitičara Bredlija Meninga (na fotografiji). On je tokom jednog četa na Internetu opisao kako je „skinuo“ mnoge tajne dokumente iz vojnog kompjuterskog sistema uključujući „260.000 izveštaja Stejt dipartmenta iz ambasada širom sveta“. On je tada kompjuterskom hakeru Adrijanu Lamou priznao i da je te dokumente dostavio Vikiliksu. Lamo ga je prijavio nakon čega je Mening uhapšen i čeka suđenje.na ppp mu ne bi dali da analizira deponiju

[hattori]

Kako navodi Gardijan, više od tri miliona službenika SAD i vojnika, od kojih su mnogi mladi i nalaze se na nižim pozicijama, imaju pristup ovom materijalu. Za ovaj slučaj najveća sumnja pala je na dvadesetdvogodišnjeg obaveštajnog analitičara Bredlija Meninga (na fotografiji). On je tokom jednog četa na Internetu opisao kako je „skinuo“ mnoge tajne dokumente iz vojnog kompjuterskog sistema uključujući „260.000 izveštaja Stejt dipartmenta iz ambasada širom sveta“. On je tada kompjuterskom hakeru Adrijanu Lamou priznao i da je te dokumente dostavio Vikiliksu. Lamo ga je prijavio nakon čega je Mening uhapšen i čeka suđenje.na ppp mu ne bi dali da analizira deponiju

jeste, pa da procure deponijske tajne.

[Roger Sanchez]

Postoje dve mogucnosti; jedna je da nastave ovako sa istim odnosom sto ih uskoro nece vise mnogo razlikovati od Kine ili Rusije.Druga mogucnost je da ce reformisati administraciju, bitno je smanjiti i uciniti istovremeno efektivnijom. Imale su SAD i ranije periode gde je preovladavala paranoja (pedesete) ali su cesto smogle snage da se vrate sa tog puta. Videcemo kako ce to biti sada. U svakom slucaju su trenutno previse razvuceni sirom sveta sto bi znacilo da treba lokalno vise da delegiraju i da se fokusiraju samo na apsolutne prioritete.

i treća mogućnost je da ukinu SIPDIS i da nakon 3 godine možda uvjere nekoga da im išta povjerljivo priopći osim preko ambasadora u Washingtonu ili tekliča. Ili skremblovanim telefonom.

[Roger Sanchez]

All's cool in China.

The Chinese media has been banned from reporting the revelations, according to Al Jazeera English's correspondent in China, Melissa Chan.

E to je kad je jaka država!

[Аврам Гојић]

Jebote mi ovde načelno raspravljamo umesto da kačimo Kejblgejt bisere.Rusija optužuje Izrael za revizionizam spram holokausta 09MOSCOW14882009-06-05 13:01CONFIDENTIALEmbassy Moscow13. © Lavrov raised Russian concern with "historical revisionism" regarding the Soviet Era and Second World War, which, he said, was particularly acute in Eastern Europe but was also present in Israel. He cited Israel's official recognition of the Holodomor, the 1930s famine that occurred in Ukraine. Lieberman explained that by recognizing this tragedy, Israel had not said Russia was guilty of causing it, nor that it was an act of genocide.

Edited November 29, 2010 by vasudeva418

[Άρης]

tebi i ostalim teoretičarima zavjere - ovo su 'tajni' dokumenti kojima je mogao pristupiti Private First Class u 10 planinskoj diviziji, dakle nema ničega što 'top secret' (pitanje je da li se to uopće pušta na SIPRNet). Razlika između medijskih šuškanja i naklapanja te 'neimenovanih izvora' je to što ovo je izlazak šifrirane, neušminkane i nefiltrirane korespondencije, a izvori nisu 'neimenovani' i sakriveni.Mediji selektivno odrađuju posao o čemu i sami pišu.Ništa ne smrdi, ni jedna vlada ne bi željela da se povjerenje u njezinu diskreciju ovako upropaštava, ni za kakve probitke i prednosti.

pa to ti kazem, samo potvrdjuju ono sto posalju AP. ;) treba videti kako ce ovo dalje ici...

Jebote mi ovde načelno raspravljamo umesto da kačimo Kejblgejt bisere.Rusija optužuje Izrael za revizionizam spram holokausta 09MOSCOW14882009-06-05 13:01CONFIDENTIALEmbassy Moscow13. © Lavrov raised Russian concern with "historical revisionism" regarding the Soviet Era and Second World War, which, he said, was particularly acute in Eastern Europe but was also present in Israel. He cited Israel's official recognition of the Holodomor, the 1930s famine that occurred in Ukraine. Lieberman explained that by recognizing this tragedy, Israel had not said Russia was guilty of causing it, nor that it was an act of genocide.

koliko sam razumeo, nije holokaust vec holodomor

[Аврам Гојић]

Dobro si razumeo, nego stvar je u tome što se proglašenje holodomora za genocid u Moskvi uobičajeno tretira kao istorijski revizionizam, čija je prva i najveća tema - baš holokaust nad Jevrejima. Stavljati Izrael u isti koš sa Mađarskom, Bugarskom i ostalim zemljama u kojima marširaju neonacisti je odraz slaboumnosti, ne shvatam kako je Lavrovu moglo da padne na pamet da načinje to pitanje.

[DarkAttraktor]

Timeo Danaos et dona ferentes iliti Jebo Lud Zbunjenog WikiLeaks claims are 'psychological warfare' says Ahmadinejad

[Muwan]

Pa čuj, ako sutra treba raspaliti po Iranu, kud ćeš boljeg izgovora od: "Pa eto, vidite i sami da slobodoljubive zemlje Bliskog Istoka to listom od nas zahtevaju. Mi smo hteli da to sve držimo u tajnosti i diplomatski rešimo stvar ispod žita, ali WikiLeaks nas odade i sad više nemamo kud..."Realno, teren je idealan. Odjednom postoji masovna podrška ratu sa Iranom a niko ne može da optuži SAD da režiraju tu podršku, štaviše.

[DarkAttraktor]

Slobodoljubiva Saudijska Arabija ? Slobodoljubivi Katar ? Slobodoljubivi Jemen ? :)

[Muwan]

Slobodoljubivi, naravno.

[teacher]

A iza svega stoje...mudraci sa Tibeta i engleska kraljica kao master of puppets...

[hazard]

A iza svega stoje...mudraci sa Tibeta i engleska kraljica kao master of puppets...

Pa ne bas...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tT0WEFs2S90

[Roger Sanchez]

Vratimo se OT..Tu se spominje Lijepu Moju (srry Digže )

NATO Enlargement - - - - - - - - - ¶7. © Adriatic 3: Errera said that France is comfortable in principle with each of the Adriatic 3 candidates. In particular, France has "no problems" with Croatian membership. However, Errera said Albania seems to be taking acceptance for granted, and needs to make more of an effort to "clean up" corruption issues. Regarding Macedonia, Errera said the GOM underestimates the seriousness of the name issue for Greece and that the U.S. should not make the same mistake. France will not pressure Greece on this issue. Furthermore, if Athens were to give in on the name issue, the Greek government could fall, thus bringing in a new government which would be responsible for -- and presumably hostile to -- the NATO enlargement ratification progress.

i kako Sarko vidi svoju viziju:

- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Sarkozy's Governing Philosophy - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - ¶14. © Errera said that two clear priorities underlie Sarkozy's administration. The first is realigning French presence with French objectives, and reestablishing French influence where it had been diminished (for example, within the EU, by giving momentum to the simplified EU treaty). Errera said France will maintain its influence in Africa but seeks to rebalance its overseas investments, for example by creating a military base in the UAE. Errera said that France cannot say Iran is a key threat without investing more in the Gulf and that the Iranians will "get the message." He noted that the new base in the UAE will be the first French military installation not in a former colony. Secondly, Errera said that Sarkozy believes in the concept of "the West," making him the first non-Gaullist French president not to consider France an exclusively independent actor. This PARIS 00000114 004 OF 004 identification provides Sarkozy a clear course for steering French policy even on difficult questions like dealing with Libyan President Qadhafi. ¶15. © Richier suggested that Sarkozy's core conviction is that France must be pulled into the 21st century. He said Sarkozy likes to use the metaphor of a person who exercises for the first time in a while -- many muscles may be sore afterwards, but the exercise has done them good. Richier said he sees new energy in French diplomacy, focused on bringing diversity and reconciliation to the global stage. Sarkozy wishes to encourage countries to accept the diversity (ethnic, religious, etc.) within their own societies, as tolerance for others is key to democracy. Sarkozy also recognizes a need for reconciliation and believes the effort to correct the course of a "bad guy" is worthwhile (COMMENT: In public Sarkozy has defended his outreach to Qadhafi and Hugo Chavez along these lines.) According to Richier, Sarkozy believes the short-term costs of talking to rogue actors by using carrots and helping them move forward are less than the long-term costs of inaction. However, he also recognizes the importance of not creating gaps between the U.S. and Europe in reaching out to "bad guys," marking a departure from previous French governments. Finally, Richier noted that "relations with Islam" and climate change were two immediate priorities of President Sarkozy's that would nevertheless remain on the French agenda.

Istakao sam naj o tempora, o moresniji pasus.

[Shan Jan]

Ovako su u tajnim spisima SAD opisani svetski državnici: * ruski premijer Vladimir Putin - "alfa pas" * avganistanski predsednik Hamid Karzai - "vođen paranojom" * nemačka kancelarka Angela Merkel - "ne upušta se u rizik i nije kreativna" * ruski predsednik Dmitri Medvedev - "izigrava Robina Betmenu Putinu" * francuski predsednik Nikola Sarkozi - ima "autoritativni stil" * italijanski premijer Silvio Berluskoni - "sujetan i neefikasan kao evropski lider" i "fizički i politički slab" političar predan "kasnim noćnim zabavama" * predsednik Zimbabvea Robert Mugabe - "stari i ludi čovek" * libijski lider Moamer Gadafi - "jednostavno čudan" * izraelski premijer Benjamin Netanjahu - "elegantan i šarmantan čovek, koji nikada ne održi obećanja".

Gadafi :D Netanjahu