Iran: novi front

[MancMellow]

13 hours ago, porucnik vasic said:

Иран није?

Ok, jeste, ali Persijanci nisu baš u poziciji u kojoj su Alaviti koji imaju uslovno receno vlast. Ono jeste da Arapi cine ogroman procenat stanovnistva, ali tu je jos i religijska podela gde Iran ima 91% Šiita, dok u Sirije je samo 60% Sunita. 

[porucnik vasic]

Нити су Персијанци једниствени као језичко ентничка група. Верски јесу компактнији него што је Сирија.

[hazard]

Iran nije etnička nacionalna država, a nije ni veštački sklepana tvorevina iz Sajks i Piko kujne. Oni su ,,imperija" sa tradicijom, poput Rusije ili Kine. Tamo je taj nadetnički državni identitet prilično jak

[Anduril]

Vreme je da se reaktivira topik:

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/apr/30/netanyahu-accuses-iran-cheating-nuclear-deal

Sada postaje i jasnije zasto je Trump onoliko otvoren prema Korejskom dilu - kriza/rat na dva fronta bi bilo previse. 

Ako ovo pukne, to ce po meni biti najveca opasnost po planetu od kraja Hladnog rata i to je bio za mene glavni razlog zasto Tramp nije smeo biti izabran.

[MancMellow]

25 minutes ago, Anduril said:

Vreme je da se reaktivira topik:

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/apr/30/netanyahu-accuses-iran-cheating-nuclear-deal

Sada postaje i jasnije zasto je Trump onoliko otvoren prema Korejskom dilu - kriza/rat na dva fronta bi bilo previse. 

Ako ovo pukne, to ce po meni biti najveca opasnost po planetu od kraja Hladnog rata i to je bio za mene glavni razlog zasto Tramp nije smeo biti izabran.

Iran je mozda na  izvestan nain i veca opasnost od Hladnog rata. U Hlad. ratu si imao dve sile koje ako se dogovore to je to. Bilo je opasnih momenata, ali ipak dvoje se nekako najlakse nagodi. Ovamo postoji 5-6 cinilaca (Asad, Izrael, RTE, Kurdi, Iran, KSA...) od kojih se ne zna ko je spremniji "dize ulog" u nadi da ce se naci neko ko nece ispratiti. A sve major nuklearne sile i njihovi interesi su prisutni. 

[Anduril]

Pisacu o ovome na Burundiju...

[Eraserhead]

Kaze psiho da ce odustajanje od sporazuma biti dobra poruka i za Severnu Koreju. 

 

Sad se vidi u kakvim je okolnostima mudri Obama, zasluzeni nobelovac napravio ovaj istorijski sporazum ali posto plebs hoce antiestablisment sad ce da ga dobije.

[namenski]

15 hours ago, Anduril said:

Pisacu o ovome na Burundiju...

Rece On 

5 hours ago, Eraserhead said:

Kaze psiho da ce odustajanje od sporazuma biti dobra poruka i za Severnu Koreju. 

 

Sad se vidi u kakvim je okolnostima mudri Obama, zasluzeni nobelovac napravio ovaj istorijski sporazum ali posto plebs hoce antiestablisment sad ce da ga dobije.

Istrebiti plebs, sta koji kurac ima fukara da se ista pita, nije to tamo neka Severna Koreja 

[dillinger]

8 hours ago, Eraserhead said:

Kaze psiho da ce odustajanje od sporazuma biti dobra poruka i za Severnu Koreju. 

 

Sad se vidi u kakvim je okolnostima mudri Obama, zasluzeni nobelovac napravio ovaj istorijski sporazum ali posto plebs hoce antiestablisment sad ce da ga dobije.

 

On 30.4.2018. at 13:54, Eraserhead said:

Sve dok Iran planira da se trajno stacionira u Siriji ovakvi napadi ce se nastaviti. Tako da treba ocekivati jos ovoga u narednim danima / nedeljama.

 

Dakle u totalnom ratu Izraela i Irana na teritoriji Sirije navijaćeš za Bibi-Tramp alijansu ali kad dođe do udara po ciljevima u Iranu podržavaćeš mule i zazivati Obamu?

[Lord Protector]

 

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Netanyahoo To Again Cry Wolf - But Something Bigger Is Up (Updated)

Updated below
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U.S. President Trump wants to end the nuclear agreement (pdf) with Iran and wants to eliminated Iranian forces in Syria which support the Syrian government. Something is being prepared to make that happen.

Last week General Joseph Votel, commander of CENTCOM - the U.S. military command for the Middle East, was in Israel. It was the first ever visit of a CENTCOM commander to Israel which usually works with the European command EUCOM.

Yesterday former CIA director and now Secretary of State Pompeo visited Israel. A few hours later Israel bombed two ammunition depots in Syria which are supposedly related to Iran. This was a clear attempt to provoke Iran into some reaction.

The Israeli defense minister Lieberman just visited Washington DC and only today came back to Israel.

Now the Israeli Prime Minister Netanyahoo loudly announced that he will hold a press conference to present a "huge amount of new and dramatic information on the Iranian nuclear program". He will allege that Iran cheats on the nuclear agreement (JCPOA).

Netanyahoo is a notorious liar and warmonger. In September 2002 he lied (vid) to the U.S. congress:

There is no question whatsoever that Saddam is seeking and is working and is advancing towards the development of nuclear weapons – no question whatsoever”

Only yesterday he promoted a false story that claimed Arabs in Israel had disrupted a minuted of silence for some people killed in a flash flood.

The IAEA says that Iran is in full compliance with the JCPOA. If there were any serious intelligence about any Iranian deviation from the nuclear agreement it would be presented to the IAEA and the six signature powers of the agreement. The IAEA would investigate and report back. If Iran cheated it would be put back under serious international sanctions. That Netanyahoo wants to present something publicly makes it very likely that he has nothing of relevance.

We hear that the documents he is said to present were compiled by one Christopher Steele and assembled with the help of one Sergej Skripal and his MI6 handler [redacted]. They will show that Iran attempts to buy yellowcake uranium from Niger.

This new comedy stunt by Netanyahoo is tightly coordinated with the Trump administration.  Trump's national security advisor John Bolton has worked with the Zionists since early 2000 to push for a war on Iran:

During multiple trips to Israel, Bolton had unannounced meetings, including with the head of Mossad, Meir Dagan, without the usual reporting cable to the secretary of state and other relevant offices. Judging from that report on an early Bolton visit, those meetings clearly dealt with a joint strategy on how to bring about political conditions for an eventual U.S. strike against Iran.

Behind Trump, Netanyahoo and Bolton is one financier, the militant Zionist and casino magnate Sheldon Adelson. He financed Trump's and Netanyahoo's election campaigns and the various think tanks that create anti-Iranian propaganda and paid Bolton.

Trump wants to leave the nuclear agreement but the other signers, China, Russia, the UK, France and Germany want to keep it up. Just leaving the JCPOA without cause will increase doubt over any agreement the U.S. wants to make on other issues. The allegations Netanyahoo will put forward, no matter how ridiculous they may be, could give Trump some excuse to put new sanctions on Iran without actually leaving the agreement.

But even that does not explain all the recent meetings and visits by the various Israeli and U.S. officials. French soldiers and mercenaries from the UAE have entered north-east-Syria. What for? The Saudis are on board with any operation against Iran.

Something big is up and we do not know yet what it might be.

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Update

That was lame. Netanyahoo just finished his show (vid). He claimed that Israel got access to an Iranian archive of its former nuclear program dating from 1999 to 2003. In 2007 a U.S. National Intelligence Estimate found that Iran stopped all nuclear weapon research in 2003 after the U.S. had destroyed Iran's then arch-enemy Iraq. In 2011 the IAEA reported in detail of Iran's former "structured program". It agreed that it had stopped in 2003.

All that Netanyahoo now claims to have acquired is old and known stuff. He refers to an AMAD plan Iran had as if that was some new intelligence. But the IAEA documented AMAD and its development in 2011 (PDF, Annex, page 5). He uses the archive documents with details of well known former programs to declare that Iran has cheated and is not trustworthy. He says that gives Trump reason to disavow the nuclear agreement the U.S. and others had signed with Iran. That is bullshit.

One wonders where the pictures and files Netanyahoo presented are coming from. I have a hunch that these were not obtained from a "warehouse" in Iran but exfiltrated from a computer in Vienna where the IAEA analyzes the former Iranian research program from files Iran handed to it.

I had expected better from a serial liar. Some well forged documents or something more dramatic. This was just nonsense.

My feeling is that this is a diversion from an upcoming military(?) operation against Iran or its assets in Lebanon, Syria or Iraq.

 

 

Edited May 1, 2018 by slow

[Eraserhead]

1 hour ago, slow said:

 

 

 

Ovi degenerici koje pronalazis po mracnim coskovima interneta ce me na kraju ubediti da je ono govno Bibi u pravu.

[Lord Protector]

Sve je istina, autor je ostavio linkove na izvore i dokumenta, to što ti se ne sviđa istina je drugi par cipela. Evo sad sam proverio ono o poseti generala Votela, i to je istina:

https://www.timesofisrael.com/commander-of-us-troops-in-syria-makes-unannounced-first-visit-to-israel/

 

 

Edited May 1, 2018 by slow

[Gandalf]

On 11.1.2018. at 11:24, MancMellow said:

Ok, jeste, ali Persijanci nisu baš u poziciji u kojoj su Alaviti koji imaju uslovno receno vlast. Ono jeste da Arapi cine ogroman procenat stanovnistva, ali tu je jos i religijska podela gde Iran ima 91% Šiita, dok u Sirije je samo 60% Sunita. 

70%+. 60%+ su arapski Suniti, nekih 10% su kurdski. sada je naravno manje, nakon uspešno odrađenih korektivnih mera.

[Eraserhead]

Maroko prekinuo veze sa Iranom i ocekuje se uzajamno zatvaranje ambasada.

[borris_]

Maroko, velika demokratija.