Biciklizam

[gervasius twinkleminkleson]

uh, kako mi je drago zbog antona :)svaka chast i nibaliju, dva put se vracao :Hail:btw, kakav je onaj lik sto je mahao biftekom ili cime vec ispred contadora :lol:plus gadret koji je krenuo pogrsenim puten

[malkin]

[gervasius twinkleminkleson]

[malkin]

:D prvobitno nisam uopšte ukapirao šta visi.

[malkin]

Rider and team protests eventually found receptive ears and, on Friday, the UCI race Giro ordered the climb – and its harrowing descent – to be removed from the day’s menu.Team directors and cautious descenders were satisfied. Fans, however, were not.On Saturday, as the day’s expected break moved away from the peloton at km 30, riders had already seen several signs expressing fans’ objection to the decision … and even a few characterizing the riders themselves as “cowards.”What the peloton didn’t yet know, as the three escapees – Bram Tankink (Rabobank), Gianluca Brambilla (Colnago-CSF) Matteo Rabottini (Farnese Vini-Neri Sottoli) – went about building up a 10:30 lead, was that the usual calculus employed to reel in a break would be disrupted by the angry fans themselves.Already shortened to 190km, the Liquigas team had moved to the front of the peloton to reel in the break with hopes of giving a stage win to its team leader, Vincenzo Nibali, and perhaps move him closer than the 3:09 he trailed Contador by.But fans, still angry over the Crostis decision, were busy organizing a group intent upon expressing its displeasure as riders were ascending a lesser climb – the Tualis – on the approach to the Zoncolan.Mindful of the protest and the impact that might have on the race, that same UCI jury quickly ordered the stage be re-re-routed away from the Tualis, cutting another 20km from the stage. What was once 35km to go, suddenly turned into 15km to go.

Eto, to se desilo. Da je red u prodavnici bio malo duži, ja bih promašio najuzbudljiviji deo etape :D Inače, Kontador i Ris su, konsenzusom među publikom, proglašeni za krivce za izbacivanje Krostisa. Navodno je Saxo vršio najveći pritisak na UCI da izmeni etapu.

[Nemanja Posrbica]

Zato su mu zviždali pri ulasku u cilj?

[Krangovo telo]

Propustio poslednjih 5 km zonkolana :(, jel ima neki snimak celog uspona? Svaka cast svakome ko uspe da pobedi na ovakvom zlu od etape, u ovom slucaju Anton

[gervasius twinkleminkleson]

ovo je najbolje sto sam uspjeo naci, samo zadnja 3km:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xgad4igNuho

[Krangovo telo]

Hvala to mi treba :)

[malkin]

Contador’s bike switchAlberto Contador once again stopped to switch bikes ahead of a decisive summit finish. With about 50km to go, Contador slowed down, rolled behind the Saxo Bank lead car and quickly swapped frames. Saxo Bank mechanic Faustino Muñoz told VeloNews the switch was for a “slightly lighter” frame for the final climb up Zoncolan. Contador rode a 34×32 up the Zoncolan, which allowed him to keep a high cadence on the ramps as steep as 22 percent.Contador also switched bikes in a similar situation on the Mount Etna. When asked by VeloNews why Contador switched bikes, Riis said it was for “safety reasons,” saying that Contador rode wider tires with slightly less pressure to make for a smoother, more secure ride over bumpy cobblestones through the Sicilian villages and roads made slick by volcanic ash.

Pošto je Kontador danas uvećao prednost nad najbližim protivnicima u svakoj od konkurencija u kojima je lider trke (generalni plasman, poeni, brda), rivali nemaju šta pametnije da kažu od ovoga:

Pink jersey rivals seem to be waving the white flag following another demonstration by Contador in the Giro’s mountains.Nibali says the only hope now is that if Contador has a bad day.“Now it looks like Contador is unbeatable,” Nibali said. “The fatigue is adding up, so maybe even Alberto will get tired and have a bad day. That’s the only chance we’ll have on trying to gain time on him.”Joaquim Rodríguez (Katusha), who admitted he’s not having the Giro that he wanted, said there’s no stopping Contador.“There’s no magic pill to stop him. It will only be him who can lose the Giro now, only if he enters a crisis,” Rodríguez said. “Maybe there’s a chance to win a stage in the final week, but Contador has the GC under control.”

Doduše, Nibali je imao još ponešto da doda i da napravi prve naznake polemike među liderima u trci:

Vincenzo Nibali said that Alberto Contador showed a lack of respect by waiting for him and then later attacking him during the final 500 metres of the gruelling climb up to the Zoncolan.“I wanted to win the stage,” Nibali said shortly after the finish. “Everyone does his own race. I have not lost my soul. I’ve asked Contador to take a turn. I wanted to see how he was really. But he never gave me a turn. He attacked. I really think it was a lack of respect from him when he waited for me and attacked again.”“Contador had everything in his favour today,” Nibali continued in a clear indication that the cancellation of the Monte Crostis by the commissaires was a decision that pleased the race leader more than the man currently in second place overall.“That’s why people have booed Contador today,” Nibali said. “The UCI didn’t allow the Crostis to be climbed, and it was a different stage. I don’t know what would have happened with the Crostis. For sure, we didn’t make the mistake [of requesting its cancellation]. For us, the riders, safety was assured but the cars of the directeurs sportifs couldn’t assist us. But I don’t think I would have attacked Contador by riding strongly in the downhill of the Crostis. I’m not sure if it would have been worth taking that kind of risk.”

Zanimljiv ugao celoj priči daje to što je vrlo lako zamisliti kako Nibali, kao najbolji spustaš među glavnim GC favoritima, pravi razliku u odnosu na Kontadora na dugom i strmom spustu poput Krostisa. Uspon na Zonkolan bi pod tim okolnostima bio potpuno drugačiji, i Kontadoru i Risu je vrlo verovatno išlo na ruku uklanjanje Krostisa. Ali, po svemu sudeći, preterano je reći da su njih dvojica krivi za takvu odluku:

It seems that five of the 23 teams were in favour of racing over the Crostis but 18 were against the idea. It has emerged that Liquigas-Cannondale, Lampre-ISD and Farnese Vini were all in favour.At the start of the stage in Lienz, the riders were largely in favour of cutting out the Crostis. They had accepted that the descent had been made safe but were angry that the sporting aspect of the race was lacking. They claimed a motorbike per team as mechanical support was not enough to make the racing fair for all the riders."It's the sensible thing to do. There was no guarantee of assistance and the ambulances could not to get there if there was a problem," Alberto Contador said.Marco Pinotti agreed."I think it's a wise decision. It's just a pity it was made so late," he said. "The idea of doing this road without guarantees of assistance for all riders is against what road racing is about. This is road racing, not mountain biking."

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Nakon što su Linc-Zonkolan etapi povađeni zubi u vidu uspona na i spusta niz Monte Krostis, sutrašnja, petnaesta, etapa je bez sumnje najteža na ovogodišnjem Điru. Jedan uspon druge kategorije i četiri uspona prve, od kojih je jedan i Cima Coppi (tj. najviše tačka ovogodišnjeg Đira), a sve to na etapi 20 39 59 kilometara dužoj od subotnje.Profil etape:Ova etapa zalazi duboko u italijanske Dolomite i vozi se po prevojima na kojima zimi ima mnogo dobrog skijanja. Kortina d'Ampeco je jako blizu Passo Giau-a. Za početak--i to bukvalno na početku etape, ni 30km nema do prve ozbiljne uzbrdice--peloton će se popeti do Pjankavala: Drugi uspon je druge kategorije, ali na ovoj etapi ni druga kategorija nije za bacanje. Forcella Cibiana je 10km penjanja po prosečnom nagibu od 7.2%:Nakon nekih 155km trkanja, nailiazi Passo Giau:Uspon dug oko 16km sa prosečnim nagibom od nešto preko 6%, sa vrhom na 2236mnv. Što se dalje ide, to je Giau teži i prava selekcija na sutrašnjoj etapi bi mogla tu da počne. Odmah po spuštanju niz Giau sledi uspon na Passo Fedaia, popularni "Graveyard of Champions":11km uspona, prosečan nagib od oko 8.2%. Poslednji u nizu uspona je Gardeccia:Kratak uspon (6km), ali nimalo naivan jer je prosečan nagib oko 10.3%.Šta očekivati od sutrašnje etape? Ima nekoliko stvari za koje mislim da mogu bitno da utiču na razvoj događaja:

• Puno poena za zelenu majicu je na raspolaganju. Ne samo da su četiri uspona prve kategorije i da je cilj na jednom od njih (a to odmah donosi 15 umesto 10 poena za osvajanje vrha prve kategorije), nego je i Cima Coppi na sutrašnjoj etapi--Passo Giau će doneti 20 poena onome ko se prvi popne, a i novčanu nagradu pride.
• Prvi uspon prve kategorije (Pjankavalo) je postavljen na sam početak etape.
• Spust niz Giau je dug 20km i, koliko znam, vrlo zahtevan.

Prve dve stavke, zajedno sa činjenicom da je Zonkolan dodatno proredio rastojanja između onih koji su ostali u trci (oko 170 biciklista), navode na zaključak da će sutra sve da pljušti od pokušaja da se pobegne glavnoj grupi. Svako ko je dovoljno duboko zakopan u GCu da ne interesuje favorite će imati solidnu šansu da juri slavu i poene za zelenu majicu. Brambilja, Savini, Sela, možda čak i Garceli, Sastre, Ruhano ili Krojciger su samo neka od imena onih koji bi mogli sutra da reše da voze solo po Dolomitima. Treća stavka je od veće važnosti za borbu oko generalnog plasmana (sumnjam da će bilo beg bilo peloton trpeti bilo kakve herojske pokušaje vrlo ranih napada nekog od GC favorita). Spust niz Giau bi mogao da bude idealna prilika za Nibalija da napadne Kontadora i Antona i da napravi rizičan, ali i hrabar potez koji bi mogao da obeleži Điro. Ako Saxo bude usamljen u ulozi kontrolora tempa i prednosti bega tokom sutrašnje etape, Kontador bi mogao da bude prilično izolovan pri vrhu Giau-a. Tu Nibali možda može da traži priliku. Na 20km spusta on sigurno može da napravi prednost koja se broji u minutima, a onda da proba na poslednja dva uspona da je i uveća. Sa druge strane, Giau je još dosta daleko od cilja etape, pa možda u Likvigasu procene da je rizik preveliki. Međutim, ako se Anjoli ili neko drugi od Nibalijevih pomagača nađe u begu, sasvim je moguć ovakva agresivna taktika, uz ideju da timski kolega sačeka Nibalija na sledećem usponu. Videćemo, ako tako nešto ne uradi Nibali, nije isključeno da proba neko drugi.

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Inače, Giau je bio Cima Coppi na Điru 1973, poznatom po tome što je Merks držao roze majicu od prologa u Belgiji pa do samog kraja, i po filmu Jorgena Leta "Stars and Watercarriers" koji svako zainteresovan za biciklizam mora da odgleda! Dva inserta iz filma:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YxlT1qpHSSchttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fJllJcLU6b0

Kad je nešto novija istorija u pitanju, vredi pomenuti da su se Giau i Fedaia poslednji put našli na trasi Đira 2008., i to baš na petnaestoj etapi. Cilj je bio na Fedaia-i, i tad je pobedio Sela, a Kontador uzeo roze majicu koju je sačuvao do kraja trke. Evo kako izgleda Giau, i kako je izgledao kraj te etape (prvi od pet klipova):http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HS2LZ4KhRnshttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xLLWZLs2hPgNedelja popodne, najteža etapa Đira, i to u verovatno najlepšem delu italijanskih Alpa. Imam ozbiljnih problema da zamislim bolji način da se provede vreme od gledanja prenosa :D

[Čutura]

:Hail:

[malkin]

Bogami, Euskaltel je uradio ono što sam očekivao od Likvigasa. Dvojica u begu, od kojih je jedan Nieve--9:08 iza Kontadora u GCu i sedmi na jučerašnjoj etapi. Saxo i Likvi sad moraju vrlo ozbiljno da tretiraju i kontrolišu beg, a Igor Anton će imati najboljeg pomagača na bar jednom od poslednja dva uspona. Odlična taktika.

[gervasius twinkleminkleson]

napadose rodriguez i arroyo. a i grupa je sad znatno manja. mislim da ce biti super ova dva brda sto dolze :)

[malkin]

napadose rodriguez i arroyo. a i grupa je sad znatno manja. mislim da ce biti super ova dva brda sto dolze :)

Imam utisak da se grupa jako osula kad je Saxo podigao tempo da uhvate Rodrigeza i Aroja. Opa, evo Kontadora!