Biciklizam

[gervasius twinkleminkleson]

kako se zove onaj svedjanin u saxoa sto je isto valjda dobar u TT?mislim da je contador dovoljno dobar da moze i sa slabijom ekipom da osvaja trke. ne u smislu da ce svejedno sigurno osvojiti bilo koju trku i ako ima shitty tim, vec prosto da moze da pobjedisto se tyler vs lance price tice - Hamilton Surrenders Cycling Gold Medal

[Nemanja Posrbica]

Larsson je odličan na TT.Dobro je to što može sam, ali je još bolje kada imaš tim. Pitaj Sastrea ko mu je doneo TdF.

[malkin]

Sutrašnja etapa je jedna od dve najteže na ovogodišnjem Điru, a završava se na jednom od nekoliko najtežih uspona* u pro biciklizmu uopšte: Monte Zonkolan.Profil etapePre Zonkolana noge će pelotonu da smekša dobrih 200km trkanja preko četiri kategorizovana uspona od kojih je najgori onaj koji ide neposredno pre Zonkolana: zloglasni Monte Krostis sa svojim neasfaltiranim deonicama i jezivim spustom. Profil Krostisa, i u spojleru još jednom snimak 1 laganog spuštanja niz njega:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IQLxf6-zuHY&feature=player_embedded

Ubeđen sam da neće biti trkanja niz Krostis i da će rastojanja koja budu važila na njegovom vrhu otprilike važiti i u podnožju. Nikome se ne rizikuje previše nakon tragedije na trećoj etapi, a ni organizatori sigurno ne žele da trka bude upamćena po još nekoj nesreći, ovog puta izazvanoj njihovim odabirom trase.Zonkolan će biti napadnut sa zapadne strane, kao i prethodna dva puta (

i

). Jedini preostali put kad se Zonkolan pojavio na trasi Đira je 2003, ali tad je vožena lakša, istočna strana. I tad je pobedio Simoni. Tek 2007. su organizatori Đira uspeli da ubede lokalne vlasti da asfaltiraju delove zapadnog uspona koji su još bili neasfaltirani i da osvetle tunele što je omogućilo da Điro poseti Zonkolan.Uspon je zverski težak, što se lako vidi po profilu:Najstrmije deonice idu do 22%. Prvih sedam kilometara je najteže i u tom delu su dve deonice od gotovo 1km ukupno na kojima se ide po prosečnom nagibu od 20%. Od osmog kilometra nagib malo popušta, da bi u poslednjem kilometru opet usledilo bolnih 11%. Super je zanimljivo pročitati ispovest jednog običnog smrtnika (i, ipak, iskusnog bicikliste) koji se teškom mukom uzverao uz Zonkolan:

I have done a lot of the biggest climbs in the US, France and Italy: Mt. Ventoux, Alpe d’Huez, Tourmalet, Forclaz, Col d’Izoard, Stelvio, Gavia, Fedai, San Pellegrino, Pordoi, Mortirolo, and Mt. Evans. They are all good climbs, but with proper gearing (34” chain ring, 27” cog), I can get up all of them without bogging down nor extending myself, if I don’t want to. However, they all take a backseat to the new, “hardest climb ever,”: Mt. Zoncolon.The ‘Z’ is located in the western Dolomite Mountains in Italy, and the Giro d’Italia raced it this year (ed note: 1997). When I watched the stage on TV, I was stunned at how slowly the professionals were climbing. It was then, I knew I had to try it. So, my friend Tobias and I headed to the ‘Z’ during the last week in July. Tobias is a Cat 2 racer and a stronger climber than I am. We were both in for a shock! The mountain is easy to find. Heading toward the town of Ovaro, you can’t miss the billboards placed by the Giro. We planned to start with a warm-up climb of about 25km, then join the route of the Giro stage about 35km from the finish. The “warm up” had a rather steep climb to the town of Tualis, which proved more than a little warm up. It was about 4km of 10-15% gradient, which was a good climb, and we kept the gears rolling fairly easily.After the little warm up, we headed to Ovaro and turned up the ‘Z.’ The climb started at 9%, and I thought to myself, “This isn’t hard.” About 1.5km into the ride, the road actually levels to flat! Tobias and I were trying to figure out if this was part of the climb when we rode around a bend, and our jaws dropped: we were literally staring at a wall!There was a sign at the base that said, “KM 0.” The Giro d’Italia placed distance signs along the climb, complete with a picture and text about a different Giro grand champion. Immediately, the climb began at a 15% gradient, and we instantly dropped in the 34x27 gear. Our pedal revolutions dropped dramatically. Several minutes ticked by while we were grinding away, when we see the next sign. I was thinking, “Cool, one kilometer down.” NO! The sign said, “KM 0.5.” Oh My GAWD! It took us nearly five minutes to climb 500 meters up the hill. This was going to be BAD.We continued grinding in our pedals, when we finally saw the, “KM 1,” sign. I thought, “This is going to be a long day!” We continued at what was literally 30 rpms with no let-up in sight, and I was already drenched in sweat. (Did I mention it was 90 degrees?) But wait, we see the next sign. Slowly, we approach it, and the sign says, “KM 1.3.” Awe CRAP! We rode only 300 freakin’ meters?! At this point, I think my brain shut off. We kept grinding up, rather wobbly, from one sign to the next, which fortunately included several switch backs that eased to probably 10 or 11% gradient. That was like Heaven! Some of the switch backs actually eased to around 8%, which literally felt like flat spots.Then, came the steepest pitch at 22%! We were out of the saddle, grinding at our 30 rpm, just plain suffering. ‘Z’ doesn’t offer any breaks by leveling off after the steep parts; it just goes back to 15%. There is no respite! I made the mistake of asking Tobias how fast we were riding. The answer tore through me like a knife in my heart: 3 miles per hour! I have NEVER climbed this slowly. This climb was going to take over TWO HOURS for 6.5 crummy miles.I had not done so intentionally, but I realized I was tacking up the climb. I have not tacked a climb in seventeen years! I also noticed that Tobias was tacking also; however, he later said he wasn’t tacking, but simply wobbling. The next apparent realization was how badly the bottom of my feet hurt from pushing down on the pedals. I knew there would be some serious foot cramps tonight!Most of the climb is in the trees and bushes, so there isn’t anything to look at for distraction. Not that you could really look for fear of falling over. However, as we were getting higher, the trees parted to reveal absolutely stunning views of the valley. My heart lifted a little. “I think I can get up this thing without stopping.”After what seemed like an eternity, the road finally eased a little. The gears started to turn over smoothly. “What was going on?” We should have studied the profile more closely (I didn’t realize how crucial that would be), because the middle 6.6kms average 15% gradient, but then ‘Z’ actually lessens to 9 and 10%, before the final kilometer. And, the views were absolutely breathtaking! Around a bend, we came upon a tunnel that was wide enough for only a Smartcar to navigate. The tunnel was a blessing, as it was nice and cool.We kept riding, and I thought that the top had to be coming soon, because there wasn’t much mountain left above us! As we slowly rounded one more bend, the road crested. It was the TOP! One last excruciating 100 meters, and we were on top of the world! Utterly soaked from sweat, and with sore knees, we made it! It took one hour and twenty minutes to ride 10.5km. Our hard work rewarded us with 360 degrees of stunning scenery. It is definitely one of the most spectacular views of all those big climbs I’ve conquered.‘Z’ is, bar none, the hardest climb I have ever accomplished. And, it is certainly, the slowest I have ever ridden on a bike while trying to go so hard!

Dakle, dok Zomegnan ne nađe neki način da protera Điro uz Scanuppiu, ova kombinacija Krostis-Zonkolan je nešto najteže što može da ponudi biciklistima na Điru. Šteta samo što Kontador nema pravu konkurenciju, inače bi bilo mnogo zanimljivije gledati sutrašnju etapu. Sa druge strane, biće interesantno videti da li može da sruši svoj VAM rekord sa Anglirua (1877); prethodni rekord je napravio baš Simoni na Zonkolanu (1850). Takođe, očekujem da Nibali, Rodrigez, Menjšov i ekipa počnu zapravo da se bore za drugo i treće mesto na trci; za to ne mogu i ne smeju da čekaju arbitražu u Lozani i to mi daje nadu da ćemo sutra ipak da gledamo uzbudljiviju etapu od ove današnje.* Kad sam već kod toga, trka oko Austrije će ove godine da ide uz Kitzbuheler Horn koji je, vrlo verovatno, teži od svega što čak i ovaj Điro ima da ponudi; jednu etapu Tura ću morati da propustim ako bude ikakvog prenosa iz Austrije. Evo ga u spojleru profil ove nemani:

http://www.climbbybike.com/profile/Kitzbüheler_Horn_Höglern_profile.gif

[gervasius twinkleminkleson]

nece biti crostisa, ide se direktno na zoncolanbtw, treba li pominjat, malkine vazda ti fala za ove najave etapa :)

Edited May 20, 2011 by gervasius twinkleminkleson

[gagorder]

Tyler Hamilton hands over gold medal / Claims Armstrong Used EPOthe shit hits the fana kazu da je pored hamiltona i hinkapi propevao

[kralj]

Pati li ta americka istraga od bilo kakve orocenosti, ili cemo da svakih par godina slusamo nova naprasna svedocanstva? Lens i Brunel su u debelom kanalu.Ovo austrijsko cudo iz Malkinovog spojlera, ne bih izvukao ni motorom.Sto se mene tice ovo je, konkurentnosti bez, najbolja tema na forumu.

[Nemanja Posrbica]

Malkine, nisam sinoć gledao do kraja, kakav je bio Andy na ITT u Californiji?

[gervasius twinkleminkleson]

ovo je novi profil danasnje etapehttp://twitpic.com/50iaxu

[malkin]

Tyler Hamilton hands over gold medal / Claims Armstrong Used EPOthe shit hits the fana kazu da je pored hamiltona i hinkapi propevao

Hinkapi je za sada demantovao da je razgovarao sa CBS-om, ali ne i da je pomogao federalnoj istrazi. Gledajući kredibilitet svedoka, ako bi on zaista svedočio protiv Armstronga to bi imalo neuporedivo veću težinu od svedočenja Tajlera Hamiltona i njegovog blizanca.

Pati li ta americka istraga od bilo kakve orocenosti, ili cemo da svakih par godina slusamo nova naprasna svedocanstva? Lens i Brunel su u debelom kanalu.

Federalna istraga je prilično nova stvar; čini mi se da je zvanična Grand Jury istraga započeta prošle godine. Ne razumem se mnogo u američki pravni sistem, ali je očigledno da se u javnosti ova istraga tretira kao značajno ozbiljnija od svega sa čime je Armstrong imao da se suoči do sada.

Malkine, nisam sinoć gledao do kraja, kakav je bio Andy na ITT u Californiji?

Nisam ni ja gledao, ali vidim da je bio 38. sa 2:15 zaostatka za Zabriskijem, i to na 24km. Standardno slabo, mada treba uzeti kao olakšavajuću okolnost što je ova trka za njega isključivo i jedino trening za Tur.

[Nemanja Posrbica]

Nisam ni ja gledao, ali vidim da je bio 38. sa 2:15 zaostatka za Zabriskijem, i to na 24km. Standardno slabo, mada treba uzeti kao olakšavajuću okolnost što je ova trka za njega isključivo i jedino trening za Tur.

Gledao sam ga na prvoj brdskoj etapi na TdC i nije me impresionirao. Dvojac RS mu je bez nekog napora pobegao. Potom je Horner i uzeo etapu. Vidi se da samo vežba, jer ga uopšte ne zanimaju skokovi, već isključivo vozi u jednom ritmu bez promene ritma. Edited May 21, 2011 by Nemanja Posrbica

[gervasius twinkleminkleson]

ehm, whatthefuck?! otisao sam u WC kad je pisalo da je nekih 30 ili koliko vec kilometara do kraja, vratim se i vidim ostalo 10km?!

[gervasius twinkleminkleson]

anton

[malkin]

da nije to bilo km do kraja sa Krostisom? I mene su zajebali ajde Igore, ne daj se!

[malkin]

Na Zonkolanu i motori prokuvavaju :D bravo Nibali, sjajno se oporavio

[malkin]

Kakva pobeda, svaka čast Igoru Antonu! Sad ćemo da vidimo da li je bio ozbiljan kad je rekao da je na Điru samo radi etapne pobede -_-