Anduril Posted July 28, 2020 Posted July 28, 2020 (edited) 14 hours ago, Ivo Petović said: Kako može da bude identična, kad je čovek sada predsednik, sa svim moćima koje uz to idu, a sam je rekao da ne zna da li će priznati poraz (na pitanje Fox faking njuza), Da pojasnim, ako treba, naravnoo da neće biti sranja ako izgubi, ali ne zbog Trampa, nego zbog USA. Meni je fascinantno da ti, kao neko ko priča o revoluciji i "demise" elektoralne politike, tako lako dozvoljavaš sebi da se sprdaš sa Trampovim autorijanizmom, dok ovaj hapsi u neobeleženim maskirnim uniformama, u neobeleženim minivanovima, po Portlandu, iste te lefti likove koji bi trebali da nose revoluciju o kojoj govoriš. Boli te kurac, zvučiš pametnije. Samo parole i kognitive self masturbation....kao što rekoh i na početku....i time završavam ovaj naš mali dijalog...Uživaj u revoluciji iz fotelje. Sta se cudis - od kada marsisti imaju problem sa autoritarizmom. Za razne komuniste je Vajmar-stajl raspad zapravo (bio) sansa - oh, wait. Istorija se uglavnom ponavlja kao farsa, nece biti nazi-logora ali Kina ili Rusija vec odavno demonstriraju kako se lako da kontrolisati masa i kako treba sa unutrasnjim neprijateljima. Edited July 28, 2020 by Anduril
Weenie Pooh Posted July 28, 2020 Posted July 28, 2020 @Ivo Petović Bri Joy Gray na temu svejetoistoizma: Quote The difference between Republicans and Democrats is that Republican messaging aligns straightforwardly with their economic goals: Cut taxes for the rich. Protect “individual freedoms” from government overreach. Encourage “self sufficiency.” They’ve branded austerity so that it’s welcomed by their constituents. Meanwhile, Democrats attempt to disguise that they’re offering versions of the same wrapped in rainbow flags and kente cloth, but have the clumsy task of rationalizing why they fail to deliver more than tokenism and lip service. For Republican corporate donors to be happy, Republicans must win, and they do. For Democratic corporate donors to be happy, Democrats must lose. And they do. Preach it, sister!
Gandalf Posted July 28, 2020 Posted July 28, 2020 4 hours ago, ObiW said: Kada su iz izbili neredi u Čikagu 1968, gradonačelnik je pozvao saveznu vladu da interveniše. Ovde to nije bio slučaj. izgovor je da je napadnuta federalna sudnica. u takvim slučajevima federalci imaju pravo da intervenišu, posebno ako lokalne vlasti nisu u mogućnosti ili su nevoljni da brane federalne institucije. sa druge strane, izgleda da su malkice prekoračili ovlašćenja. https://katu.com/news/local/what-power-do-the-feds-have-in-portland Tung Yin, a law professor at Lewis & Clark College, says federal law enforcement have authority to protect federal buildings in the city. There are questions about how they are doing that, though. "The federal government has some authority to defend the courthouse, arrest people for certain crimes. But are the people they are arresting-- is there probable cause to believe they are committing these crimes? Is this actual law enforcement with an eye towards prosecution? Or is it sort of harassment, intimidation, and chilling of free speech?" said Yin.
Ivo Petović Posted July 28, 2020 Posted July 28, 2020 8 hours ago, Weenie Pooh said: Ja o revoluciji pričam kao o nedostižnom idealu, naravno da ne mislim da će ovi Pepsi klinci koji šetaju sa maskama i "join the conversation" parolama ikad išta promeniti nabolje. Trump je bušan kurton od autoritarijanca, a ti dijalog završavaš po brat bratu šesnaesti put. Ah, nedostižni ideal ipak, u sećanju mi je ostalo da pre mesec dana nije bilo tako :( btw, jak si ti levičar sa tako malo vere u ljude, čak i one nominalno na tvojoj strani...
Weenie Pooh Posted July 28, 2020 Posted July 28, 2020 4 hours ago, Gandalf said: fwiw O Condi Rice se već jedno duže vreme priča, nagađaju ljudi bezveze u stilu "wouldn't it be funny if"... A realno bilo bi, da se ne lažemo I, for one, welcome our Republican overlords... 2 hours ago, Ivo Petović said: ti si levičar Fake news lying media!
Peter Fan Posted July 28, 2020 Posted July 28, 2020 41 minutes ago, Weenie Pooh said: O Condi Rice se već jedno duže vreme priča, nagađaju ljudi bezveze u stilu "wouldn't it be funny if"... A realno bilo bi, da se ne lažemo I, for one, welcome our Republican overlords... Valjda Susan Rice? Condi i Obama su dva svijeta razlicita..
Weenie Pooh Posted July 28, 2020 Posted July 28, 2020 Valjda Susan Rice? Condi i Obama su dva svijeta razlicita..Bah, an uninspired choice, treba Obamin veep da reciklira celu administraciju, dosadno! Nego lepo Kondolizica, da ne bude da se četiri godine uzalud kukumavčilo kako je u stvari bilo sjajno pod GWB. Vlada nacionalnog jedinstva, svi srećni, svi zadovoljni...
ObiW Posted July 28, 2020 Posted July 28, 2020 6 minutes ago, Weenie Pooh said: Bah, an uninspired choice, treba Obamin veep da reciklira celu administraciju, dosadno! Nego lepo Kondolizica, da ne bude da se četiri godine uzalud kukumavčilo kako je u stvari bilo sjajno pod GWB. Vlada nacionalnog jedinstva, svi srećni, svi zadovoljni... Ali Kondoliza... kad su se pobili Izrael i Hamas u Libanu 2006 niko nije hteo da prica sa njom o mirovnim inicijativama dok nisu ispucali svu dzebanu koju su stedeli od kad se Izrael povukao iz Libana. Mislim da je ona bila secretary of state koju su najmanje ozbiljno shvatali u inostranstvu, ukljucujuci i ove Trampove debile. 1
ravena Posted July 28, 2020 Posted July 28, 2020 On 26.7.2020. at 15:48, Mos said: Klasična reakcija svih opozicija populistima u svetu. Trampovi, Putini, Orbani, Vučići su im oteli sve teme i nekadašnje glasače, pa su toliko zajapureni i anti-protivni na sve što taj populista kaže/uradi - čak i kad ima nekog smisla. Pogledati pod Olja Bećković besna na doktore u emisiji tamo krajem marta. Jednostavno, refleks koji ne zahteva puno truda. jer su trampovi, putini, orbani i vucici isto. zemljo, otvori se. tramp, putin i orban imaju prilicno slicnu retoriku. vucic je proeu, desnicarenje prodaje samo u medijima. putin, vucic i orban pobedjuju na svim izborima jer ne postoji sansa da izgube. tramp je predsednik koji ce da odradi jedan mandat, nekim cudom dva. predsednik za koga ne glasa 100% u ceceniji ili u selima po srbiji.
Budja Posted July 29, 2020 Posted July 29, 2020 Quote Back to Videos Biden on Racial Inequality Plan: If This Passes I Will Go Down As The Most Progressive President In History Posted By Ian Schwartz On Date July 28, 2020 Presumptive Democratic presidential nominee Joe Biden delivered a speech on his plan for racial economic inequality and combating systemic racism in the United States on Tuesday. I have been relatively good at bringing people together in the United States Congress and politically. It’s going to be a lot harder. Things have changed, a lot harder. But depending on the outcome of the election, in terms of the Senate, how its race is, it could become very much within reach because I’ll say it again, I’ve never crushed any other’s motive. I’ve never lied to a political opponent, misled them. Even when I was in the Senate and I’d say, “I need your vote in this, but I got to tell you, you vote for it, this party or constituent is going to be mad at you. I’ve never misled anybody. I don’t expect anybody to voluntarily agree to be in the second edition of Profiles of Courage. I try to recognize the limits of where they can go and still find a principle compromise. And so they are the two things that I think we very bad badly need now. And lastly, I think that not withstanding the fact, I think I have laid out the most detailed plans on the economy and on issues related to healthcare and the rest of any president in modern history. I mean, it’s awful detailed. If I’m elected and this passes, I’m going to be good to go down as one of the most progressive presidents in America history. But none of the things I’m talking about are inconsistent with a free market, not inconsistent with capitalism, but they require certain safeguards. Just like, you know, that whole thing, it took a capitalist to save capitalism. Well, I think there’s a lot that we can get done and will get done. Duel titana.
Budja Posted July 29, 2020 Posted July 29, 2020 Duel titana: Quote Biden called for an amendment to the Federal Reserve Act that would require the Fed to report on racial economic gaps and what policies the Fed is implementing to close these gaps. Koriscenje centralne banke, koja se bavi makro-agregatima, za ispravljanje mikroekonomskih-nepravdi gde "mikro" ne znaci "malo" vec "parcijalna trzista" a ne cela ekonomija. https://finance.yahoo.com/news/biden-urges-diverse-fed-fight-175124371.html
Weenie Pooh Posted July 29, 2020 Posted July 29, 2020 4 hours ago, Budja said: Quote Just like, you know, that whole thing, it took a capitalist to save capitalism. Duel titana. Šta to pokušava da kaže, nesreća? Zvuči kao kad bi umesto "only Nixon could go to China" krilatica bila "only Mao could go to China". Evo guglam taj citat i nailazim samo na naslove tipa "saving capitalism from capitalists", nigde ne vidim da ima "it takes a capitalist to save capitalism".
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