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[Lord Protector]

Saboteurs of Peace: On the Road to Helsinki

It’s Trump versus the War Party

by Justin Raimondo Posted on July 16, 2018

If there was ever any doubt that the Russia-gate hoax is a scheme by the War Party to salvage their bankrupt foreign policy, and depose a democratically-elected President, then Robert Mueller’s indictment of twelve alleged GRU agents for “interfering” in the 2016 election settles the matter once and for all. Are we supposed to believe it was just a coincidencethat the indictment was made public just as Trump was about to meet Russian President Vladimir Putin in Helsinki?

An indictment of twelve individuals who will never contest the charges, and which will not have to be proven beyond a reasonable doubt in a court of law – to whom is it addressed? Not to any jury, but to the court of public opinion. It is, in short, pure propaganda, meant to sabotage Trump’s Helsinki peace initiative before it has even convened.

Yet the brazenness of this borderline treason is what makes it so ineffective. The American people aren’t stupid: to the extent that they’re paying attention to this Beltway comic opera they can figure out the motives and meaning of Mueller’s accusations without too much difficulty.

The indictment reads like a fourth-rate spy thriller: we are treated to alleged “real time” transcripts of Boris and Natashain action, draining the DNC’s email system as well as our precious bodily fluids. This material, perhaps supplied by the National Security Agency, contains no evidence that links either Russia or the named individuals to the actions depicted in the transcripts. We just have to take Mueller’s word for it.

What Mueller is counting on is that the defendants will never show up in court. If they did, following the example of representatives of the indicted Internet Research Agency – accused of running Facebook ads on Russia’s behalf – Mueller would have to provide real evidence of the defendant’s guilt. In that case, the indictment would have to be dropped, because the alleged evidence is classified.

Ominously, the indictment points to unnamed US individuals alleged to have collaborated with supposed Russian agents: Roger Stone has been identified as one of them, and no doubt others have been targeted by the special prosecutor’s office. Anyone who thought the anti-Russian inquisition would be content with mini-big fish Mike Flynn and Paul Manafort, and the little tadpoles they’d managed to corral, is about to be proven dead wrong. This fishing expedition has barely begun.

The whole shoddy affair is meant to distract attention away from the President’s ambitious foreign policy initiatives, the twin diplomatic outreach campaigns to two of our old cold war enemies. These efforts demonstrate the overarching significance of the President’s “America First” foreign policy: Trump means to abandon the old cold war structures. In their place he means to build a new so-called international order, one that is not overseen by any one “superpower” but that is self-regulating, like the market order that has brought unparalleled prosperity to this country and to the world.

That’s the big picture. Focusing in on specifics, what is likely to come out of this summit is:

· A settlement of the Syrian conflict as a prelude to US withdrawal.

· An agreement to renew and revitalize the INF treaty, which is in danger of being nullified, and the initiation of new joint efforts to limit nuclear weapons.

· An acknowledgment of the need to normalize Russo-American relations in the interest of world peace.

I might add that efforts to trace and capture “rogue” nukes, perhaps left over from the immediate post-Soviet collapse, should also be on the agenda.

The disgusting – and depressing – response of the Democrats to the Helsinki summit has been a concerted campaign to … cancel it. Yes, that’s how myopic and in thrall to the Deep State these flunkies are: world peace, who cares? Never mind that we’re still on hair-trigger alert, with our nukes aimed at their cities and their nukes targeting ours. The slightest anomaly could spark a nuclear exchange – the end of the world, the extinction of human life, and probably of most life, for quite some time to come.

And yet — what does the survival of the human race matter next to the question of how and why Hillary Clinton was denied her rightful place in history? I mean,really!

The American people are not blaming Russia for their problems. They don’t want conflict with the Kremlin, they don’t care about Ukraine, and the question of sanctions never comes up at the dinner table of ordinary Americans. That’s why Russia-gate and the war propaganda coming out of the neocon and liberal thinktanks has had little effect on public opinion, in marked contrast to its dominance of elite discourse inside the Beltway bubble.

This latest effort to discredit the President’s peace project and sabotage a summit with a foreign leader underscores the battle lines in this country. On one side is the Deep State, with its self-interested globalist leadership so invested in our interventionist foreign policy that even Trump’s limited (albeit surprisingly radical) critique poses a deadly threat to their power. On the other side is Trump, the outsider, who often has to work against and around his own government in order to pursue his preferred policies.

Yet this isn’t about Trump, his personality, or his other policies. It’s about whether a bunch of unelected bureaucrats are going to be granted a veto power over who sits in that chair in the Oval Office. It’s as simple as that.

I know what side I’m on. Do you?

[Budja]

Phishing

1 hour ago, Anduril said:

 

Idemo dalje - nesto detalja, ali verovatno je to ovaj Mueller izmislio:

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/07/15/us/politics/guccifer-russia-mueller.html?hp&action=click&pgtype=Homepage&clickSource=story-heading&module=b-lede-package-region&region=top-news&WT.nav=top-news

https://int.nyt.com/data/documenthelper/80-netyksho-et-al-indictment/ba0521c1eef869deecbe/optimized/full.pdf?action=click&module=Intentional&pgtype=Article

 

Sofisticirzana operacija zvana phisning.

 

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For example, on or about March 19, 2016, LUKASHEV and his co-conspirators created and sent a spearphishing email to the chairman of the Clinton Campaign. LUKASHEV used the account “john356g ” at an online service that abbreviated lengthy website addresses (referred to as a “URL-shortening service”). LUKASHEV used the account to mask a link contained in the spearphishing email, which directed the recipient to a GRU-created website. LUKASHEV altered the appearance of the sender email address in order to make it look like the email was a security notification from Google (a technique known as “spoofing”), instructing the user to change his password by clicking the embedded link. Those instructions were followed. On or about March 21, 2016, LUKASHEV, YERMAKOV, and their co-conspirators stole the contents of the chairman’s email account, which consisted of over 50,000 emails.

 

I onda Trampara glup. Ovde ispada da je Podesta (pretpostavljam Victim 1), jedan moron na kub.

Edited July 16, 2018 by Budja

[theanswer]

ali koliko ih je dirnuo tramp u mit o američkoj specijalnosti

 

džejk taper malopre "ne mogu reći da tramp ne voli ovu državu. ali on uopšte ne veruje da smo mi specijalni. on kao da misli da smo mi i rusija podjednako loši a to zaista moram da kažem da nije tačno". odgovor analitičarke "naravno da nismo as bad as russia". sunce ti jebem da ti jebem

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[Amos]

Pa naravno, pola nacije se fura na leaders of the free world a druga polovina na zahvalnost veteranima za njihovu slobodu koja se vojuje legionarski po tudjim pustinjama i livadama. Jedan kolektivni prs. 

[Gandalf]

6 hours ago, Budja said:

Sofisticirzana operacija zvana phisning.

 

[Budja]

Sorry, John Podesta je moron.

[Gandalf]

Just now, Budja said:

Sorry, John Podesta je moron.

nebitno, ovo je jako lepo odrađeno.

[Gandalf]

7 hours ago, slow said:

 

On one side is the Deep State, with its self-interested globalist leadership so invested in our interventionist foreign policy...

ojha! 

 

Edited July 17, 2018 by Gandalf

[Lord Protector]

Justin Raimondo nema veze sa Davidom Dukom, bez veze povlačiš paralelu.

Edited July 17, 2018 by slow

[x500]

9 hours ago, Budja said:

Phishing

 

Sofisticirzana operacija zvana phisning.

 

 

I onda Trampara glup. Ovde ispada da je Podesta (pretpostavljam Victim 1), jedan moron na kub.

Da li je Direktor kampanje podneo ostavku? Zato sto je nasedanje na takav e-mail cist dokaz da je covek upadljivo glup i totalno nespreman za profesionalni zivotu u xxi veku. 

[Weenie Pooh]

6 hours ago, Gandalf said:

 

 

Lupeta čovek. Podesta i svako drugi ko ukuca password zato što "šta da radim, tražio mi Gugl" nema pojma ni o čemu. I Google i svi ostali service providers mušterijama redovno ističu da im nikada, ni pod kojim uslovima, neće zahtevati da promene password.

 

"Oh, pa zar ne vidite kako je to sofisticirano, evo čak su mu i sliku stavili" je opravdanje za idiote. Sofisticirani haker mu piše sa adrese no-reply@accounts.googlemail.com  

Edited July 17, 2018 by Weenie Pooh

[Time Crisis]

2 hours ago, Weenie Pooh said:

 

Lupeta čovek. Podesta i svako drugi ko ukuca password zato što "šta da radim, tražio mi Gugl" nema pojma ni o čemu. I Google i svi ostali service providers mušterijama redovno ističu da im nikada, ni pod kojim uslovima, neće zahtevati da promene password.

 

"Oh, pa zar ne vidite kako je to sofisticirano, evo čak su mu i sliku stavili" je opravdanje za idiote. Sofisticirani haker mu piše sa adrese no-reply@accounts.googlemail.com  

 

Change password se završava sa googlemail... .tk Još bolje pitanje je zašto neko na njegovom nivou koristi jebeni gmail? Meni je to samo za kojekakve reklame i slične spamove.

[Weenie Pooh]

Ma ne razumeš, to je vrhunska hakerska sofistikacija, nema ko se ne bi upecao. Niko osim ozbiljne state agency ne bi mogao to da izvede. Ruski crnošeširaši su najbolji na svetu.

[Gandalf]

6 hours ago, slow said:

Justin Raimondo nema veze sa Davidom Dukom, bez veze povlačiš paralelu.

Globalist = Jew (posebno u datom kontekstu)

 

Nema teorije da Raimondo to ne zna.

[Lord Protector]

20 minutes ago, Gandalf said:

Globalist = Jew (posebno u datom kontekstu)

 

Nema teorije da Raimondo to ne zna.

 

Ne, kad kaže globalista misli na globaliste. Justin je antiratni aktivista i libertarian. I to ne bilo kakav libertarian, već onaj kome je politički otac i najbliži saradnik bio Jevrejin Murray Rothbard. O njemu je i napisao knjigu "An Enemy of the State: The Life of Murray N. Rothbard".

 

Like Randolph Bourne, Rothbard believed that "war is the health of the state". According to David Gordon, this was the reason for Rothbard's opposition to aggressive foreign policy. Rothbard believed that stopping new wars was necessary and that knowledge of how government had led citizens into earlier wars was important. Two essays expanded on these views "War, Peace, and the State" and "The Anatomy of the State". Rothbard used insights of Vilfredo Pareto, Gaetano Mosca and Robert Michels to build a model of state personnel, goals and ideology.

 

 

Edited July 17, 2018 by slow