Gandalf Posted July 13, 2018 Posted July 13, 2018 21 minutes ago, theanswer said: dva dana pošto trump objavi da želi povlačenje iz sirije hemijski napad tri dana pred sastanak sa putinom optužnice https://www.amazon.com/Electro-Deflecto-Unisex-Foil-Size/dp/B01I497JAM
Lord Protector Posted July 14, 2018 Posted July 14, 2018 (edited) Quote Mueller Indicts 12 Russian Intel Officers Just Days Before Summit Indictment fuels new calls to cancel Trump-Putin summit On Friday, special counsel Robert Mueller has indicted 12 Russian GRU officers. The 12 are accused of conspiring to hack Hillary Clinton campaign and DNC computers to leak information ahead of the 2016 election. This was the second substantial set of indictments coming out of the investigation. In February, the Justice Department indicted 13 other “conspirators” claiming that they had stolen the identities of US citizens to manipulate the campaigns. Russia has denied all the charges. While indictments aren’t surprising, as a chance to try to show that the investigation in progressing, the timing is extremely unfortunate, to the point that it must raise suspicions. The indictment, after all, comes just days before President Trump is to hold a summit with Russia’s President Vladimir Putin. Trump was already facing bipartisan opposition to having a summit with Putin at all, based on the allegations of election meddling. The indictments are adding fuel to the fire, sparking more calls from opponents of diplomacy to pull out of the summit at the last minute. Sen. Mark Warner (D-VA) demanded substantial changes to the summit saying that complaining to Putin about the indictments needs to be the focus of the entire summit, and that Putin and Trump should never be allowed to be alone in a room during the meeting. Warner was one of the few to not call for the talks to be cancelled outright, with Sen. Chuck Schumer (D-NY) saying the meeting needed to be cancelled “now,” and Sen. Ron Wyden (D-OR) saying that even shaking Putin’s hand would be “a moment of historic cowardice.” Of course, these lawmakers were all attacking the summit long before these indictments dropped, and this simply is the new excuse for opposing the plan. With the growing sense that the Mueller investigation is designed to just keep going, there is also concern it’s going to keep being used as a source of excuses to not talk to Russia. Edited July 14, 2018 by slow
Weenie Pooh Posted July 14, 2018 Posted July 14, 2018 Nije valjda da smo posle dve godine još uvek u "ima tu nečega" fazi...
Anduril Posted July 14, 2018 Posted July 14, 2018 1 hour ago, Weenie Pooh said: Nije valjda da smo posle dve godine još uvek u "ima tu nečega" fazi... Pa, znam da ti nije poznato, gde bi i naucio, ali takve ozbiljnije istrage traju malo duze ako se radi kako treba.
Weenie Pooh Posted July 14, 2018 Posted July 14, 2018 Ma nema problema, ako si ti zadovoljan što se za dve godine doguralo od "ima tu nečega" do "ima tu nečega", zadovoljan sam i ja. Za još dve godine kad najzad počne da se steže ta čelična mreža, Trump će moći samo da se koprca i skiči, a onda sledi hiljadugodišnji rajh Kamale Haris.
Anduril Posted July 14, 2018 Posted July 14, 2018 Pa, ja jesam zadovoljan, ako se ima u vidu da za neprijatelja imaju celu administraciju. Sigurno necu bazirati misljenje o ovako necem bez izvodjenja nekih ozbiljnijih dokaza kao rezultat istrage. Sa druge strane, ti si vec odavno formirao misljenje tako da se u tome moze pridruziti FOX-u i drustvu.
marv Posted July 14, 2018 Posted July 14, 2018 bila bi fora da putin predaje ove "hakere" amerikancima pa neka im sude
theanswer Posted July 14, 2018 Posted July 14, 2018 mala je verovatnoća da će predati 12 visokih zvaničnika obavešajne službe zato što je hilari izgubila izbore koje ne bi niko izgubio
x500 Posted July 14, 2018 Posted July 14, 2018 Sada ispada da je istraga protiv Lomonosov Analitike iz Moskve i Facebooka lose uradjena cim je trajala samo par nedelja. Nego mene interesuje koliko je ljudi na visokim pozicijama iz oblasti bezbednosti, posebno IT bezbednosti, podnelo ostavke ili ostalo bez posla. Kada jednu tako mocnu zemlju neko izbusi k'o sir, bilo bi logicno i da neko odgovora, zar ne?
marv Posted July 14, 2018 Posted July 14, 2018 (edited) ^ pa bas zato, mogao bi da ih preda samo da bi ih brukao jer sigurno nemaju nemaju dokaza protiv njih Edited July 14, 2018 by marv
Weenie Pooh Posted July 14, 2018 Posted July 14, 2018 20 minutes ago, x500 said: Nego mene interesuje koliko je ljudi na visokim pozicijama iz oblasti bezbednosti, posebno IT bezbednosti, podnelo ostavke ili ostalo bez posla. Kada jednu tako mocnu zemlju neko izbusi k'o sir, bilo bi logicno i da neko odgovora, zar ne? Da se prizna da ih nije niko spolja izbušio nego da su sami sebi stali na nogu i pali na nos, ostali bi bez posla mnogo bitniji ljudi od anonimnih opsec stučnjaka™ koji su Podesti rekli da odgovori "Guglu" na phishing poruku i pošalje im svoju lozinku. Zato bolje da bude kriv spoljni neprijatelj, po mogućstvu neko koga nikad neće moći da pozovu na odgovornost.
Gandalf Posted July 15, 2018 Posted July 15, 2018 5 hours ago, Weenie Pooh said: Nije valjda da smo posle dve godine još uvek u "ima tu nečega" fazi... Nismo. Sada smo u "ima tu svačega" fazi.
Budja Posted July 15, 2018 Posted July 15, 2018 Trampara o Kraljici Babi i shvatanju lepote. Quote Trump would not say if the 92-year-old monarch told him what she really thinks of Britain’s attempt to leave the European Union. “Well,” he said, “I can’t talk, you know I’ve heard very strongly from a lot of people, you just don’t talk about that conversation with the Queen, right? You don’t wanna do that … Let me tell you what I can talk about … she is an incredible woman, she is so sharp, she is so beautiful, when I say beautiful – inside and out. That is a beautiful woman.”
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