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Znači duplo golo  :lolol:

 

Nije (bar M'cr) uopšte kišan decembar-januar. Sad lupam, nemam statistiku, ali lični utisak je da su to meseci sa najmanje padavina (kažem - M'cr)

 

Uhm...no :D

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manchester#Climate

 

Decembar je treci najkisniji mesec. Inace divna klima u picku materinu, u avgustu prosecna maksimalna temperatura 20,3 stepena i u proseku 12 kisnih dana. Savrseno za suicid

 

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pa onda je subjektivan osecaj zato sto je manje padavina u januaru nego u avgustu, ali kad imas svest da je kao januar zimski mesec onda je osecaj da je manje. A i minimalna je razlika u odnosu na jul i spetembar. A ovo Nov i Oct to je dizastr to je tacno

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Extraordinary bid to block Brexit revealed: EU Commission staffer writes to ALL MPs demanding they overturn historic vote to leave

 

 

I am writing to you to ask you to ensure with your fellow MPs that the house will reject any motion to invoke Art 50 of the Treaty of Lisbon to terminate the UK's membership of the EU that the government may bring before it. The reasons for this request are set out below.

1. The referendum is not legally binding on Parliament, as a matter of constitutional law. 

2. A matter of such fundamental importance should not be decided on a bare majority. (By comparison, under company law, the constitution of a company can only be changed with a special majority - usually 75%.) 

It cannot be right that the country's position on an issue of such gravity should be decided on such a narrow margin. Although the turnout was high for a UK election, nevertheless millions did not vote. Moreover, there is no legally specified majority which forms the basis of any decision. 

3. The reasons for holding the referendum in the first place were flawed; as you are aware, it was effectively held for domestic party political reasons, yet the outcome will shape Britain's and Europe's future for years to come. 

4. The vote on a decision involving such complex issues was made by an electorate that felt it was uninformedOne poll found over a third of voters said they did not feel they had enough knowledge to make an informed decision, and prior to the vote interviewed voters in the media could be heard saying the same thing. 

So the vote was won by a less than 4% margin, yet over a third of voters felt ill-equipped to make a decision. And indeed many polled voters' perceptions were very wide of the mark (eg estimating EU migrants to make up 15% of the population, when the actual figure is 5%). 

Moreover some Leave voters can already be heard in media interviews expressing surprise and regret about the possible consequences. 

5. The referendum was not an exercise in real democracy owing to the amount of mis-information put out – particularly in the lead up to the vote, but also for years previously. 

Voters in the UK have always been peculiarly under-informed by governments of all stripes about the UK's international obligations and how it handles them, whether in relation to the EU, the UN, the WTO or NATO. 

But the campaigns conducted by both sides did not help people to get to grips with understanding the issues, and a large number of untruths were deliberately circulated. This was compounded by media coverage trying to aim for a strict balance, starkly pitting Remainers against Leavers to the detriment of informed (and yes, undoubtedly dull and un-media friendly) discussion. 

There are real arguments to be made about the strengths and weaknesses of the EU system - but we have not had that debate yet. Indeed, as you know, the second most googled question in the UK about the EU the day after the vote was 'What is the EU?' 

6. The UK being a Parliamentary democracy, it is you who have been elected to make decisions on voters' behalf - especially decisions as complex as this one. The facts about, and the arguments for and against EU membership should have been debated seriously and lengthily in Parliament. 

A one-off binary public referendum is not a suitable tool for this kind of decision. It is Parliament that decides fundamental issues of international relations such as acts of war. This is of at least the equivalent significance and thus Parliament must decide. 

7. The decision to remain in the EU was supported by a number of national and local identities, notably Scotland, Northern Ireland and London. No other electoral decision making in the UK ignores these national and local identities. 

The constituency system, on the contrary, gives effect to them. (Some other countries' systems pay attention to this. For example, I understand that in Australia, a Federal referendum is not deemed successful unless it achieves a majority of those voting nationwide, as well as separate majorities in a majority of states, i.e. 4 out of 6 states. In addition, voting is compulsory there.) 

8. A YouGov poll has suggested that 75% of voters under the age of 35 voted to remain. It would be a travesty of democracy for such a long term decision to be made contrary to the wishes of those who have most at stake and represent the future of the country. 

9. It is plainly against the interests of the country for the UK to leave the EU. The fallout to date is more than enough evidence. 

The above arguments underline that any action to empower the government to invoke Art 50 in these circumstances is neither democratically legitimate nor in the interests of the country and its citizens. A deeply felt protest vote has carried the day, but the answer is not to exit the EU.

This would not be to ignore the result of the referendum. The concerns of those who voted to leave need to be addressed. 

They are real, and have arisen from issues which are extremely important but which do not appear to be well understood, nor well explained. 

Notably these include: (1) the limits of national sovereignty in the context of globalisation and global financial markets; (2) massive migratory flows as a result of civil war and failing states; (3) EU migrants working in the UK in a context of not only under-funded health and education provision, but also a different system than other Member States (many of which can and do try to ensure that free movement is for workers and others who can support themselves); and (4) how decisions in Brussels are actually arrived at by the Member States (on any given day a large proportion of the 'faceless bureaucrats' in Brussels are Member State government officials attending meetings in the Council to shape and decide on EU law), as well as what their effect actually is in the UK. But the UK doesn't have leave the EU to address these issues. If the vote had gone the other way these issues would still need to be addressed.

'Political suicide', I hear people saying. But some MPs have committed that already, and now the parties are in such disarray that it looks as though resolving that will take up all MPs energy. 

MPs should now work to focus on the overall interests of the country rather than on yet more internal political fighting, this time about who should lead the main political parties. 

UK voters will not be best served by further domestic political fights, now that the larger issues at stake are starting to become apparent.

I am writing to all MPs as I don't have one of my own. (Full disclosure: I am a UK citizen who has been in Brussels for well over the 15-year cut-off point, working in the European Commission – yes, I am aware that you may see me as a turkey trying to overturn a vote for Christmas; I am currently on unpaid leave; am resident in Belgium, being able to support myself and maintain my own health insurance to the satisfaction of the Belgian authorities, in line with EU rules on freedom of movement; and am at present in Beijing, financing myself to study Chinese, which accounts for the postmark on the envelope of the mailed version of this letter, also sent by email.)

Yours sincerely 

[Name redacted due to data protection rules] 

 

 
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The European Commission performed a startling U-turn on its landmark trade agreement with Canada on Tuesday, succumbing to pressure from France and Germany by deciding that national parliaments would have to ratify the deal.

 

The need for approval from almost 40 national and regional assemblies not only threatens to scupper the Canadian deal itself, but delivers an ominous signal to British politicians who insist that the U.K. could negotiate a quick post-Brexit trade accord with the EU.

 

Speaking in Strasbourg, Trade Commissioner Cecilia Malmström said the EU had decided to call the Canada deal a “mixed agreement.” This means that the bloc’s most significant trade deal to date is now hostage to hostile lawmakers in parliaments ranging from Romania to the Belgian region of Wallonia.

 

After the shock of Britain’s referendum to quit the EU, politicians in Paris and Berlin have sought to reassert the sovereignty of their parliaments and have protested about the EU’s plans to ratify such a high-profile trade accord without consulting national assemblies.

“I have looked at the legal arguments and I have listened to heads of state or government and to national parliaments,” said Commission President Jean-Claude Juncker. “Now it is time to deliver. The credibility of Europe’s trade policy is at stake.”

The decision, taken during a meeting of the EU’s commissioners in Strasbourg, represented a surprising volte-face because the Commission had hoped to treat the accord as an EU-only deal, meaning it would require approval only from the European Parliament and national governments in the Council.

The Canadian deal has stoked sensitivities across Europe primarily because it is seen as a precursor to the far more contentious Transatlantic Trade and Investment Partnership with the U.S.

Matthias Fekl, France’s trade minister, said it was “unbelievable” that Brussels had been planning to treat the deal as an exclusively EU competence.

“I find it even more hallucinatory only a few days after the result of the British referendum that one could envisage this type of procedure at the level of the European Commission,” he told the news agency AFP in an interview.

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quick post-Brexit trade accord with the EU.

 

ma to je sumanuto, ja ne razumem kako ozbiljni ljudi mogu tako da govore. Svako ko je imao uvid u bilo kakve pregovore o zakljucenju "trade" ugovora izmedju makar i samo dve zemlje zna koliki je to posao. pa bilateralni ugovori se najcesce godinama ugovaraju, a ne ovo gde je upleteno milion politickih i ekonomskih interesa 30tak zemalja. 

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Najeba Ante Marković once again.

It looks like a little bit of history repeating.

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