Weenie Pooh Posted January 10, 2015 Share Posted January 10, 2015 Tamo je već odmakla rasprava o SWAT akcijama, a ovde govorimo o slobodi govora, a to ne može bez korifeja slobode BHL Korifej elegantno trpa svu odgovornost za izbegavanje ovakvih sranja u budućnosti na muslimansku zajednicu, deklarativno vičući kako nije problem do Islama nego do ekstremista koji ga pogrešno tumače. Znači, nije stvar u vama... ali vi morate da se ekspresno promenite, liberalizujete, i civilizujete da vam ne bi iz vaših redova ubuduće dolazile psihopate koje ste zatrovali defektnim strainom vaših religijskih budalaština. A ta neka socijalna beda & frustracija mladih? To zajebi, to je lenjinizam za idiote. Daleko će se stići tim pristupom, otprilike koliko i pristupom onog Henitijevog Britanca ("Da je Pera prihvatio šerijat, svega ovoga ne bi ni bilo." Link to comment
iDemo Posted January 10, 2015 Share Posted January 10, 2015 Da vidimo tko to jos navija za slobodu govora, ne? http://www.city-journal.org/2015/eon0109td.html ...the response to this week’s attacks has been admirable. The left-wing French newspaper, Libération, which I have often criticized, has bravely given the magazine space in its office; the next edition of Charlie Hebdo will print 1 million copies, 25 times its normal run. And in Britain, the Guardian Media Group has announced a donation of £100,000 to Charlie Hebdo.This stands in marked contrast to the pusillanimity displayed by George W. Bush during the Danish cartoon crisis of 2006, and by Barack Obama in 2012, when he criticized Charlie Hebdo for being offensive to Muslim sentiment. Link to comment
iDemo Posted January 10, 2015 Share Posted January 10, 2015 khm... Maurice Sinet just turned 86. In 2008 he wrote a column in which he expressed views described by Claude Askolovitch, a high-profile political commentator in France, as being as anti-Semitic. This later resulted in Sinet facing charges of “inciting racial hatred.” He also received a death threat posted on a Jewish Defense League website, saying: “20 centimeters of stainless steel in the gut, that should teach the bastard to stop and think.” Sinet, who works under the pen name Siné, got fired from his job but later won a €40,000 court judgment against his former publisher for wrongful termination. Had he not been fired, he might now be dead — his employer was the magazine Charlie Hebdo. http://warincontext.org/2015/01/08/double-standards-on-free-speech/ Opa bako... Link to comment
iDemo Posted January 10, 2015 Share Posted January 10, 2015 Primeti da su on i Brejvik pravnosnažno osuđeni a da ostali to nisu, i da ovakva okolnost za nekoga može biti kriterijum pri formiranju stava. Iskusno Link to comment
iDemo Posted January 10, 2015 Share Posted January 10, 2015 Vredjanje religioznih zajednica je sigurno zabranjeno u Francuskoj. O cemu tacno pises? Vidi se iz prilozenog koliko se i kako "religiozne zajednice" definishu. Cenim. Link to comment
iDemo Posted January 10, 2015 Share Posted January 10, 2015 Korifej elegantno trpa svu odgovornost za izbegavanje ovakvih sranja u budućnosti na muslimansku zajednicu, deklarativno vičući kako nije problem do Islama nego do ekstremista koji ga pogrešno tumače. Znači, nije stvar u vama... ali vi morate da se ekspresno promenite, liberalizujete, i civilizujete da vam ne bi iz vaših redova ubuduće dolazile psihopate koje ste zatrovali defektnim strainom vaših religijskih budalaština. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_Defense_League In 2002, in France, attackers from Betar and Ligue de Défense Juive (LDJ) violently assaulted Jewish demonstrators from Peace Now, journalists, police officers (one of whom was stabbed), and Arab bystanders.[57] At least two of the suspects in the 2010 murder of a French Muslim Saïd Bourarach appeared to have ties to the French chapter of the JDL.[58] In 2011, Israeli daily Haaretz reported members of the "French branch of Jewish terror group coming to Israel 'to defendsettlements'."[14] In 2013, a French Arab man was critically injured in a "revenge attack" by LDJ, sparking calls for further attacks against the Jews and a condemnation of the militant group by the French Jewry umbrella group CRIF;[17] as of 2013, there have been least 115 violent incidents were attributed to LDJ "soldiers" since the group's registration in France in 2001, including many vigilante reprisals to antisemitic attacks. Earlier that year, two LDJ members were sentenced for an attack at a pro-Palestinian bookstore that injured two people and a LDJ propaganda video called for "five cops for every Jew, 10 Arabs for each rabbi."[59] In June 2014 two LDJ supporters were sentenced to prison in France for targeting the car of Jonathan Moadab, the Jewish co-founder of the blog "Cercle des Volontaires (Circle of Volunteers)", with a home-made bomb in September 2012.[60] Link to comment
yolo Posted January 10, 2015 Share Posted January 10, 2015 mozda bi ti upotreba dugmeta multiquote olaksala zivot i stavove.... Link to comment
aram Posted January 10, 2015 Share Posted January 10, 2015 mozda bi ti upotreba dugmeta multiquote olaksala zivot i stavove.... koje stavove? Link to comment
Muwan Posted January 10, 2015 Share Posted January 10, 2015 hm... ako bi npr. Saudi ili UAE, ili pak muslimanska zajednica u Francuskoj, krenuli kintom, lobiranjem, potkupljivanjem politicara? Fuck yeah, zašto da ne. Nadmudrivanje i nadigravanje je OK, ozbiljno ovo kaźem. Pokoravanje oružjem i nasiljem nije OK i treba da bude sasečeno svim raspoloživim sredstvima (policijskim, vojnim, bezbednosnim, pravnim, medijskim, you name it). Link to comment
Takeshi Posted January 10, 2015 Share Posted January 10, 2015 Charlie Hebdo’s gross out cartoons are an ancient French tradition worth preserving I’ll come out and say it, because no one else will: French gross-out humor is the best. Particularly the illustrated variety. And it’s very much worth pointing out that unlike the American or Japanese graphic novel/superhero comic tradition, the French ribald comic is not misogynistic, and has focused largely on making fun of male bodies rather than being a socially acceptable way of contributing to men’s spank banks. It seems that some very important cultural context is necessary here, because of a persistent double standard among some of America’s cultural elite: They applaud sex and nudity in French films because that’s just how the French are and it’s super-sophisticated because film is some kind of exalted art form. What’s less discussed is the equally glorious and equally awesome tradition of French men’s-urinal-graffiti-worthy humor. Link to comment
Radoye Posted January 10, 2015 Share Posted January 10, 2015 Charlie Hebdo’s gross out cartoons are an ancient French tradition worth preserving Jos kad bi otvoreno rasisticke zvrljotine imale veze sa "French tradition of gross-out humor"... Jer ako je ovo: isto sto i ovo: Onda valjda i ovo: ...pripada toj istoj tradiciji gross-out humora? Jes' al' u kurcu. Link to comment
Ryan Franco Posted January 10, 2015 Share Posted January 10, 2015 Šta piše na ove tri CH karikature? Ne razumem francuski. Hvala. Link to comment
Radoye Posted January 10, 2015 Share Posted January 10, 2015 Ne razumem ni ja, a nije toliko ni bitno. Na prvoj valjda kaze nesto u stilu "koji ce nam Englezi u Evropi?" Link to comment
Weenie Pooh Posted January 10, 2015 Share Posted January 10, 2015 Juče čitao prevode na raznim sajtovima, pa koliko se sećam bilo je nešto kao: - Šta će nam Englezi u Evropi? - Ne sme se sprdati (sa nama) - Ko ne umre od smeha, dobije 100 x bičem Link to comment
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