Islamska drzava

[steins]

Rusi demantovali

 

 

http://www.rt.com/news/314010-syria-russia-planes-isis/

 

 

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[Lord Protector]

Mene interesuje zašto je ovakav tekst pušten od strane izraelskog novinara?

 

 

The report’s author, Alex Fishman, who was contacted by RT, refused to comment on the legitimacy of his source.

“…I am not talking about my sources, sorry,” he said. “I’m not publishing something without a legitimate source. I’ve been working for the last 40 years in the military field. So you can understand that it’s a very,very legitimate source.”

Edited September 2, 2015 by slow

[frn1782]

Malo vise slobodna interpretacija onoga sto se odavno desava i sto svi znaju-Rusi salju Asadu instruktore i tehniku.

Rojtersova skola novinarstva.

[stooler]

Јако се чудне ствари догађају у том Израелу иначе...

[Prospero]

Can you blow my whistle baby, whistle baby
Let me know
 
 

Exclusive: 50 Spies Say ISIS Intelligence Was Cooked

It’s being called a ‘revolt’ by intelligence pros who are paid to give their honest assessment of the ISIS war—but are instead seeing their reports turned into happy talk.

More than 50 intelligence analysts working out of the U.S. military's Central Command have formally complained that their reports on ISIS and al Qaeda’s branch in Syria were being inappropriately altered by senior officials, The Daily Beast has learned.

The complaints spurred the Pentagon’s inspector general to open an investigation into the alleged manipulation of intelligence. The fact that so many people complained suggests there are deep-rooted, systemic problems in how the U.S. military command charged with the war against the self-proclaimed Islamic State assesses intelligence.

“The cancer was within the senior level of the intelligence command,” one defense official said.
 
Two senior analysts at CENTCOM signed a written complaint sent to the Defense Department inspector general in July alleging that the reports, some of which were briefed to President Obama, portrayed the terror groups as weaker than the analysts believe they are. The reports were changed by CENTCOM higher-ups to adhere to the administration’s public line that the U.S. is winning the battle against ISIS and al Nusra, al Qaeda’s branch in Syria, the analysts claim.

That complaint was supported by 50 other analysts, some of whom have complained about politicizing of intelligence reports for months. That’s according to 11 individuals who are knowledgeable about the details of the report and who spoke to The Daily Beast on condition of anonymity.

The accusations suggest that a large number of people tracking the inner workings of the terror groups think that their reports are being manipulated to fit a public narrative. The allegations echoed charges that political appointees and senior officials cherry-picked intelligence about Iraq’s supposed weapons program in 2002 and 2003.
 

 

 

The two signatories to the complaint were described as the ones formally lodging it, and the additional analysts are willing and able to back up the substance of the allegations with concrete examples.

Some of those CENTCOM analysts described the sizeable cadre of protesting analysts as a “revolt” by intelligence professionals who are paid to give their honest assessment, based on facts, and not to be influenced by national-level policy. The analysts have accused senior-level leaders, including the director of intelligence and his deputy in CENTCOM, of changing their analyses to be more in line with the Obama administration’s public contention that the fight against ISIS and al Qaeda is making progress. The analysts take a more pessimistic view about how military efforts to destroy the groups are going.

The large number of analysts who complained to the Pentagon inspector general hasn’t been previously reported. Some of them are assigned to work at CENTCOM, the U.S. military's command for the Middle East and Central Asia, but are officially employed by the Defense Intelligence Agency.

The complaints allege that in some cases key elements of intelligence reports were removed, resulting in a document that didn’t accurately capture the analysts’ conclusions, sources familiar with the protest said. But the complaint also goes beyond alleged altering of reports and accuses some senior leaders at CENTCOM of creating an unprofessional work environment. One person who knows the contents of the written complaint sent to the inspector general said it used the word “Stalinist” to describe the tone set by officials overseeing CENTCOM’s analysis.

Many described a climate in which analysts felt they could not give a candid assessment of the situation in Iraq and Syria. Some felt it was a product of commanders protecting their career advancement by putting the best spin on the war.

Some reports crafted by the analysts that were too negative in their assessment of the war were sent back the chain of the command or not shared up the chain, several analysts said. Still others, feeling the climate around them, self-censored so their reports affirmed already-held beliefs.

“While we cannot comment on the specific investigation cited in the article, we can speak to the process. The Intelligence Community routinely provides a wide range of subjective assessments related to the current security environment. These products and the analysis that they present are absolutely vital to our efforts, particularly given the incredibly complex nature of the multi-front fights that are ongoing now in Iraq and Syria,” said Air Force Col. Patrick Ryder, U.S. CENTCOM spokesman. “Senior civilian and military leadership consider these assessments during planning and decision-making, along with information gained from various other sources, to include the insights provided by commanders on the ground and other key advisors, intelligence collection assets, and previous experience.”

Two of the officials who spoke to The Daily Beast said that analysts began airing their complaints in October in an effort to address the issue internally and only went to the inspector general when that effort failed. Some of those who complained were urged to retire, one official familiar with the report told The Daily Beast. Some agreed to leave.

In recent months, members of the Obama administration have sought to paint the fight against ISIS in rosy hues—despite the terror army’s seizure of major cities like Mosul and Fallujah.

“ISIS is losing,” John Allen, the retired Marine general charged with coordinating the ISIS campaign, said in July.

“I am confident that over time, we will beat, we will, indeed, degrade and ultimately destroy ISIL,” Secretary of State John Kerry said in March, using the government’s preferred acronym for the group.

“No, I don’t think we’re losing,” President Obama said in May.

Yet a growing group of intelligence analysts persisted with their complaints. For some, who have served at CENTCOM for more than a decade, scars remained from the run-up to the 2003 war in Iraq, when poorly written intelligence reports suggesting Iraq had weapons of mass destruction, when it did not, formed the basis of the George W. Bush administration’s case for war.

 

“They were frustrated because they didn’t do the right thing then” and speak up about their doubts on Iraq’s weapons program, the defense official told The Daily Beast.

 

 

[SNARC]

 

 

Srpski lekar otet u Tripoliju

Naoružana grupa otela je u Tripoliju srpskog lekara, objavila je libijska agencija Lana.

 

Moguce je da su se nasi malo previse isticali sa pomaganjem izbeglima..pa su ovi magarci resili da naprave problem.

[MancMellow]

Odlicno

[Ryan Franco]

Fakin shit...

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   Ambasador Srbije u Libiji kaže da nema naznaka da je bio koji Srbin otet u toj zemlji :: #rtsvesti

[SNARC]

Neko ko dobro poznaje stanje na terenu ce svakako znati da razume ovu interaktivnu mapu..previse skracenica za mene

 

http://www.arcgis.com/home/webmap/viewer.html?webmap=1d1a179706c24b49a4f6b4a2df03ffbc&extent=29.7757%2C26.7903%2C52.7591%2C38.0183

[Bane5]

nije komplikovano - samo su unete skracenice i za ostale mape. verujem, po skracenicama, da isti izvor pravi mape i za jemen i somaliju.

ovde su prikazani objedinjeno sirija, irak i deo kurdistana.

 

za tumacenje ove mape bitne su ti sledece oznake - ISIS (to znas sta je), ISF (iracka vojska), Peshmerga (zvanicne oruzane snage irackog Kurdistana), Rebels (sve pobunjene frakcije u Siriji objedinjeno, a van ISIS-a), Regime (objedinjeno sve snage koje se bore u ime Asada), YPG (kurdske snage u Siriji).

 

mapa je realna (tesko je na njoj prikazati npr. ko drzi kvartove nekih gradova i sl.), ali isto treba imati na umu i to da tamo gde je jedinstvena teritorija, a obojeno je u sivo, crveno, zuto ili zeleno nije uvek verovatno da te snage drze bas svaki deo pod potpunom kontrolom (puno je tu nenaseljenih delova u pitanju), ali je verovatno da je ta teritorija uokvirena u logicnu celinu jer najblize naseljene celine pripadaju onima koji predstavljaju tu boju.

Edited September 19, 2015 by Bane5

[Geo]

Znaci ISIS drzi i ovaj primorski deo Libije a neki pobunjeni islamisti Tripoli ?

[Bane5]

Da.

ps. Tako je najlakse opisati. Nije sve tako cisto podeljeno jer na jugu dominiraju plemena koja su van igre ovig glavnih igraca. Takodje, ni kod berbera situacija nije skroz jedinstvena jer su jedni cak podrzali ove 'zelene', a ni ova zelena i crvena polovina nije bas tako jedinstvena... U svakom slucaju jasno je da postoje dve jake snage - da su suprostavljene i da su se izmedju njih (ne bas slucajno) uglavili oni koji su prihvatili ISIS kao svoju pricu.

Edited September 19, 2015 by Bane5

[theanswer]

Nisam znao da Huti drže ovoliko Jemena

[Bane5]

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