Islamska drzava

[Gandalf]

Zanimljiva je ova uloga Turske pored vec spomenute KSA.

Cenim da po Gandalfu pomoc Turske (kao i novac KSA) nema mnogo efekta na ID...

reklo bi se da je tip ukrasio pricu koliko god je mogao. od par hiljada regruta dnevno, pa do retardiranih u Ahraru koji IS spijunu pomazu da pokrene svoju brigadu.

 

(a sto se tice novca KSA, 0 dokaza. americki izvestaji, procurela IS interna dokumentacija... nema nicega.)

 

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FATF Report: Financing of the Terrorist Organisation Islamic State in Iraq and the Levant (ISIL)

 

The overall quantitative value of external donations to ISIL is minimal relative to its other revenue sources, but ISIL has received some funding from wealthy private regional donors. On September 24, 2014, an ISIL official who received a 2 million USD donation emanating from the Gulf was listed and sanctioned by the US Department of the Treasury. ISIL has also turned to enabled contributions for financial backing to support its military campaign (see section on Funding through modern communication networks).

 

Foreign donor support could increase in importance for ISIL as other sources of revenue diminish. There is also a risk that US-listed individuals and groups that have recently pledged allegiance to ISIL, including one faction of the Philippines-based Abu Sayyaf Group and Egypt-based Ansar Bayt al-Maqdis (ABM), may also develop stronger organisational ties that could lead to the provision of funding from one group to ISIL or vice versa. Funds from these groups may be remitted through the international financial system.

Edited November 20, 2015 by Gandalf

[Prospero]

Kuvajtaši™ su izgleda shvatili da se mnoooogo kombinovanog zapadno-ruskog besa valja iza brda i da treba malo mrdnuti dupetom kako bi se na vreme moglo reći "mi smo s vama":

 

 

Kuwait disrupts extremist cell supporting the Islamic State

By HUSSAIN AL-QATARI
Nov. 19, 2015 3:45 PM EST

KUWAIT CITY (AP) — Kuwait's Interior Ministry said Thursday it cracked down on an extremist cell that was aiding the Islamic State group with support that included brokering arms deals, arresting six people from various nationalities who were operating inside the country.

 

The official Kuwait News Agency said police arrested a Lebanese citizen described as the ringleader named Osama Khayat, who admitted to helping IS recruit fighters and raise money that was sent to IS-related bank accounts in Turkey. The Interior Ministry said Khayat also admitted to closing weapons deals in Ukraine and using Turkey as a route to send weapons to IS fighters in Syria, where the group controls territory.

 

Police said they also arrested three Syrians, one of whom was an arms dealer for the IS group and another who was in charge of finances and communication.

 

Police also detained an Egyptian who they described as a member of the IS group and a Kuwaiti national who was responsible for logistical support.

 

The statement said two Syrians and two Australian-Lebanese dual nationals are still at large.

 

A shorter, earlier statement from the news agency provided different details, including the number of arrests.

 

The predominantly Sunni Muslim country suffered its most devastating terrorist attack in decades in June when a suicide bomber attacked one of the Gulf nation's oldest Shiite mosques, killing 27 people in the capital.

 

One of the Islamic State group's affiliates in the Arabian Peninsula, calling itself Najd Province, claimed responsibility for that attack.

 

Edited November 20, 2015 by Prospero

[vememah]

[JozoMujica]

 

Čudi me ovo za Bih i Kosovo, pa njima su barem USA i EU pomogli... oh wait...

[Prokleto Djubre]

Malo u Cracked fazonu, ali mozda nekome pomogne u razumevanju motiva:

http://www.cracked.com/blog/isis-wants-us-to-invade-7-facts-revealed-by-their-magazine/

[Eraserhead]

 

Čudi me ovo za Bih i Kosovo, pa njima su barem USA i EU pomogli... oh wait...

Bosni je i Iran onoliko pomogao pa nista. Siitsvo ugaseno. :(

[Hella]

Čudi me ovo za Bih i Kosovo, pa njima su barem USA i EU pomogli... oh wait...

 

za njihovu radikalizaciju je kriv srpski nacionalizam koji nikako da katarzira 

[odmor]

 

Čudi me ovo za Bih i Kosovo, pa njima su barem USA i EU pomogli... oh wait...

 

 

samo 18 iz francuske (npr 83 sa kosova)?  malo cudno deluje

[gone fishing]

taj broj se odnosi na milion ljudi, na kosovu živi oko 1,8 mil. ljudi od toga su 95% ili 1,7 mil. muslimani

- muslimani čine 6% stanovništva francuske ili oko 4 mil. ljudi, znači da je odziv među muslimanima u fra. 0,03% dok je na kosovu 0,01%

- tako da su francuski arapi 3x radikalniji....

[hazard]

Na milion stanovnika. To bi znacilo da iz Francuske ukupno ima 1188 a sa Kosova 150.

 

Takodje imati u vidu da je verski gledano samo 7-8% francuskog stanovnistva podlozno radikalizaciji, dok je na Kosovu teoretski taj procenat 80% (u praksi mnogo nizi, ali bar duplo veci od francuskog).

 

edit: gone fishing bio brzi

Edited November 20, 2015 by hazard

[Takeshi]

oslobodjeni sindzar:

link

 

 

Edited November 20, 2015 by Takeshi

[Gandalf]

ROOM for DEBATE

 

One key to ISIS’ spread has been its lucrative and multifaceted sources of revenue. It has captured oil fields and refineries, taken control of banks and extracted millions of dollars through kidnapping, extortion and other criminal activity.

 

Can ISIS be undermined financially as it is being attacked militarily?

[Eraserhead]

USA danas saopstile da je u napadu na ID ubijeno 4 civila ukljucujuci i jedno dete. Interesuje me kako ljudi razmisljaju o ovome. Koja je "cena" koja je dozvoljena u borbi protiv ovog olosa?

[April]

...na Berlin, nisam mislio na Berlin...sa Berlincima

[iDemo]

 

ROOM for DEBATE

 

One key to ISIS’ spread has been its lucrative and multifaceted sources of revenue. It has captured oil fields and refineries, taken control of banks and extracted millions of dollars through kidnapping, extortion and other criminal activity.

 

Can ISIS be undermined financially as it is being attacked militarily?